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Topic: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Topic: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

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bornacatfan
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Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/27/2012 12:36:14 PM

I do not remember this guy as a prep but interesting story on the Left Coast with a bunch of idiots who walked out on him and the guys who stayed.

this white board says a lot to me. Your coach is trying to make better people out of you. 10 years from now you may look back form the rear of the unemployment line and figure out the lesson you should have taken away in HS. COach may be a jerk but he cares enough to tell you what you need to know.

never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer.....

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/27/2012 3:53:19 PM

"We weren't being that disrespectful," said Eddie Perez, a senior who walked out with the suspended players. "He wants to run the team his way and doesn't listen to our own opinions." - says it all.

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/27/2012 6:35:56 PM

cc cat wrote:

"We weren't being that disrespectful," said Eddie Perez, a senior who walked out with the suspended players. "He wants to run the team his way and doesn't listen to our own opinions." - says it all.

This too:

Parents, however, believe their children have been unfairly criticized and abandoned by yet another coach in a school that has lost too many of them.

How many coaches do they have to go through before they get the message that it ain't the coach's fault?

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JSF
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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/28/2012 12:59:58 AM

Sounds like the one parent has a legitimate beef in that he feels the coach isn't giving the whole story. That's assuming said parent is being truthful.

Either way, it's a sad story. Too late, those guys will realize their mistake. Hopefully they learn from it.

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 10:48:20 AM

Just had an interesting thought that might not have anything to do with what's happening out there:

If parents have to pay an extracurricular activity fee so their kids can play a sport, should they have a say in how the team is run?

Under normal circumstances, tax dollars are lumped together with all the other funds the school receives and are used to help pay for facilities, coaches (who are also teachers) and equipment, in addition to books, buses, etc., so there's no direct correlation between what parents pay for taxes and what goes to athletics. But with tax dollars often just covering essentials, many schools are charging students a fee -- many times, over $100 -- to play a sport. If they have to pay a specific fee to participate in a sport, should parents -- and maybe students -- have a more direct say in the how the team is run?

Not advocating a position; just asking the question.

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 11:36:56 AM

Pataskala wrote:

If they have to pay a specific fee to participate in a sport, should parents -- and maybe students -- have a more direct say in the how the team is run?

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Good thought and one more way the education system is failing kids.

I think if that becomes the norm you will see sports become more club oriented and less local HS.

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 5:29:24 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

If they have to pay a specific fee to participate in a sport, should parents -- and maybe students -- have a more direct say in the how the team is run?

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Good thought and one more way the education system is failing kids.

I think if that becomes the norm you will see sports become more club oriented and less local HS.

Totally agree about the possible trend toward club sports rather than HS sports. If so, it will raise a lot of questions about the criteria businesses and individual donors will use to determine who gets their donations to play. Will donors earmark funds for certain ability levels only?

If this happens, I'll hate to see it happen because the present system, for the most part, has served this country well for 80 or 90 years. The only possible good that could come from it is that local high schools may increase focus on teaching lifetime physical fitness to a broader range of students.

Change is hard sometimes, and for me it seems to get harder the older I get.

bornacatfan
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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 6:41:21 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Change is hard sometimes, and for me it seems to get harder the older I get.

Try this one on for size

Schools creating magnet programs for sports at certain schools.

He proposes a "magnet" plan, similar to that already in place for academics. If students hoping to be involved in the medical field go to Washington for that specialty, why wouldn't athletes who play football want to go to a magnet school for football?

Every sport offered in the intermediate school has a comparable sport offered within the community, such as Rocket football, club volleyball, River City basketball, along with Little League baseball and softball.

If you are a 3 sport athlete and your school only offers Football and Wrestling how do you participate in the sports found at another school and not yours.

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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 7:03:00 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

If they have to pay a specific fee to participate in a sport, should parents -- and maybe students -- have a more direct say in the how the team is run?

.

Good thought and one more way the education system is failing kids.

I think if that becomes the norm you will see sports become more club oriented and less local HS.

It's already happening in Ohio, particularly with basketball, volleyball, softball and baseball. It has almost always been that way for soccer and lacrosse (which is not yet an official OHSAA sport).

I don't think a move toward club/private sports will have a significant impact on players at the highest level in terms of future athletic opportunities-- colleges will find them. But, it could have a negative impact on them in other ways. And, in my opinion, there could be significant impact on kids who aren't elite athletes, their schools' teams and the school/broader community.

This is a rich topic and would make a great discussion over dinner sometime.

JSF
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RE: Cincy guy embroiled on the West Coast.

Posted: 1/29/2012 9:10:40 PM

It also raises the question of what we want out of our youth sports programs. Exercise? Development? Professional cultivation? Opportunity? Sportsmanship? Is there a way to ensure everyone gets to play and the elite talents get the nurturing they need?

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