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Ted Thompson
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  Message Not Read  Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 11:00:56 AM 
Use this thread to talk about anything game-related.

Date: January 28th, 2012  11:00 AM

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 11:09:07 AM 
This is really the only west game that I have concerns about.  win this my hopes for sweeping the west will look a little brighter.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 12:12:44 PM 
KyleWvr13 wrote:
This is really the only west game that I have concerns about.  win this my hopes for sweeping the west will look a little brighter.


I'm not disagreeing that this is a game that could be a tough one, but isn't a road game at slow the pace down EMU a little scary too?  I don't know anything about the matchup other than what I see in the stat sheet, and how they let a home game slip away against Akron.  Seems like containing Jerrod Jones' influence is a big key.  It also looks like there's a lot of depth on this team both with scoring and minutes played.
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   Posted: 1/26/2012 12:24:06 PM 
KyleWvr13 wrote:
This is really the only west game that I have concerns about.  win this my hopes for sweeping the west will look a little brighter.



You can't be serious.  After last night's game, you really believe this?!
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   Posted: 1/26/2012 12:59:09 PM 

Boy, I hope some fans show up.  The turnout for WMU game last night was pathetic.  Not worthy of division I sports.  Kent State wasn't much better.  Uhg.

Last Edited: 1/26/2012 12:59:33 PM by Ohio69

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 1:31:12 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:

Boy, I hope some fans show up.  The turnout for WMU game last night was pathetic.  Not worthy of division I sports.  Kent State wasn't much better.  Uhg.



Hold on.  Not worthy of division one sports?  Ever seen the average crowds at half of our conference?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 1:53:15 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:

Boy, I hope some fans show up.  The turnout for WMU game last night was pathetic.  Not worthy of division I sports.  Kent State wasn't much better.  Uhg.



That pathetic attendance would lead the MAC.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 2:28:34 PM 
The only game I'm not overly concerned about is Northern Illinois, and even then, I don't think it's unfathomable that they could beat us. Road trips can be tough. I hope we make it tough on Ball State. The Cardinals are 5-4 on the road this year, which is pretty good, but their overall strength of schedule is one of the worst in the nation. Central Michigan (RPI mid 200s) is the best team they've beat on the road. Only home wins better than that are against Butler (outside top 100) and Western Michigan. They really haven't risen to the challenge against the few better foes they've played.

Ball State has the top scoring defense in the MAC and have allowed opponents to shoot just 38 percent. Those numbers are not as good in MAC play (which actually is an upgrade to the schedule they played non-conference). The Cardinals have rebounded at a pretty average rate. Jarrod Jones averages twice as many points as any one else on the team. He's led them in scoring in all but four games. Point guard Randy Davis is a good distrubutor, tops in the MAC right now. Davis, Jesse Berry, Jauwan Scaife and Tyler Koch shoot a lot of 3s (all of them are at about 60 percent or higher of their shots from 3) but only make at around 30 percent with Koch at the highest at 34.7 percent.

I really think Ball State is a team that Ohio can defend well. If the Bobcats can get the offense going, they might be able to pull away.
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   Posted: 1/26/2012 4:07:02 PM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
The only game I'm not overly concerned about is Northern Illinois, and even then, I don't think it's unfathomable that they could beat us. Road trips can be tough. I hope we make it tough on Ball State. The Cardinals are 5-4 on the road this year, which is pretty good, but their overall strength of schedule is one of the worst in the nation. Central Michigan (RPI mid 200s) is the best team they've beat on the road. Only home wins better than that are against Butler (outside top 100) and Western Michigan. They really haven't risen to the challenge against the few better foes they've played.

Ball State has the top scoring defense in the MAC and have allowed opponents to shoot just 38 percent. Those numbers are not as good in MAC play (which actually is an upgrade to the schedule they played non-conference). The Cardinals have rebounded at a pretty average rate. Jarrod Jones averages twice as many points as any one else on the team. He's led them in scoring in all but four games. Point guard Randy Davis is a good distrubutor, tops in the MAC right now. Davis, Jesse Berry, Jauwan Scaife and Tyler Koch shoot a lot of 3s (all of them are at about 60 percent or higher of their shots from 3) but only make at around 30 percent with Koch at the highest at 34.7 percent.

I really think Ball State is a team that Ohio can defend well. If the Bobcats can get the offense going, they might be able to pull away.


I was at the BSU game the other night. Koch is really getting better and Davis is a tough lil SOB. offense patterns are hard to read, hopefully our guys turn them early and often. They are pretty crisp withtheir passes but tend to wait long in the shot clock to get things going. I n transition we are a dynamite team that will run the legs off them and challenge them. Jones seemed to avoiod going right at Big Zeke but I look for him and the entire team to try and redeem thiemselves against Ohio. .Good to hear Ric andCoach holding a grudge after being put out early in the toruney last year.

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   Posted: 1/26/2012 4:17:20 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
Ohio69 wrote:
Boy, I hope some fans show up.  The turnout for WMU game last night was pathetic.  Not worthy of division I sports.  Kent State wasn't much better.  Uhg.


Hold on.  Not worthy of division one sports?  Ever seen the average crowds at half of our conference?


Yes.  And they aren't worthy either.  Look, a lot of teams play div. I and do so with dinky facilities and no fans.  So, maybe I should've said not worthy of upper mid-major-ness or something.  Regardless, the Kent and WMU Convo attendance was pretty pathetic.

OUVan wrote:
Ohio69 wrote:
Boy, I hope some fans show up. The turnout for WMU game last night was pathetic. Not worthy of division I sports. Kent State wasn't much better. Uhg.


That pathetic attendance would lead the MAC.


While I like leading the MAC in attendance, its really not much to crow about is it?

And, the 11:00AM start will continue our 15% capacity crowds this weekend.  I expect an almost vacant Ozone.



Anyway, getting back to the game itself, I'll be surprised if we win.  Honestly.  We just are in a serious funk.  Ball State can take us for sure. 


Last Edited: 1/26/2012 4:20:12 PM by Ohio69

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   Posted: 1/26/2012 5:28:47 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
I was at the BSU game the other night. Koch is really getting better and Davis is a tough lil SOB. offense patterns are hard to read, hopefully our guys turn them early and often. They are pretty crisp withtheir passes but tend to wait long in the shot clock to get things going. I n transition we are a dynamite team that will run the legs off them and challenge them. Jones seemed to avoiod going right at Big Zeke but I look for him and the entire team to try and redeem thiemselves against Ohio. .Good to hear Ric andCoach holding a grudge after being put out early in the toruney last year.


       You mentioned Koch, Davis and Jones, but you didn't mention Kaminski (sp?). Is he still your favorite MAC West player?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/26/2012 9:24:18 PM 
Did not get much run. Kind of a thug the way he plays sometimes. I like toughness but just being mean does not make you tough.  He got a couple of rebounds but did not seem to have much presence.

I think they are going to come in focused and ready to play. THey have felt the meat grinder of the east the last few years. I read a recent quote from Davis about the east that suggested if you come in as a number one onthe west and do not play well you can be at the other end of the tables in a week.... lets hope so.

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   Posted: 1/27/2012 12:24:56 AM 
I think out of all the 16-4 teams in the country we have to have the most negativity about the way we are playing.

Yes, we are not firing on all cylinders.  Yes, it seems like at times we can't hit the ocean while riding on a cruise piloted by Francesco Schettino.  But out defense has been playing lights out. We haven't had a team score above 70 since the Oakland game.  Bottom line is that lately we have made the adjustments neccessary to still win games.  We are playing better than we we're against RMU, BG, Akron, Kennesaw, and NC A&T. Personally, I like the fact that we are winning tight games now so that way we don't have to figure out how to do it when the MAC tournament comes around.

As long as we can continue to scrap out wins until we get our shooting stroke back, we will be just fine.

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   Posted: 1/27/2012 1:26:04 AM 
We owe these guys one from the tournament last season. Up nine with 2:42 to go and we can't finish. Then we lose in OT.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 21 Thread: Ball State
   Posted: 1/27/2012 8:52:08 AM 
Ohio69 wrote:
While I like leading the MAC in attendance, its really not much to crow about is it?




Who was crowing?  Just pointing out that it isn't "pathetic".  Disappointing, yes, but calling it pathetic is a little hyperbolic don't you think?
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   Posted: 1/27/2012 11:08:33 AM 
OUVan wrote:
Ohio69 wrote:
While I like leading the MAC in attendance, its really not much to crow about is it?


Who was crowing?  Just pointing out that it isn't "pathetic".  Disappointing, yes, but calling it pathetic is a little hyperbolic don't you think?


Just a little....  (but the crowds were dissapointing.) 


Last Edited: 1/27/2012 11:10:10 AM by Ohio69

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   Posted: 1/27/2012 11:38:04 AM 
Decent preview of game in The Post.
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   Posted: 1/27/2012 1:39:10 PM 
I see I've made my annual move from "I don't think we're that good" to "You guys are being way too negative." Ball State isn't very good and we should win this game without much trouble if we shoot even decently.

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   Posted: 1/27/2012 3:12:17 PM 
JSF wrote:
we should win this game without much trouble if we shoot even decently.


That could be said about every game on our schedule.  If we play well offensively we win.
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   Posted: 1/27/2012 4:07:36 PM 
I'm hoping the officials will decide to let Walt play this game.
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   Posted: 1/27/2012 6:34:18 PM 
Rough timing for me.  The boy just had his tonsils removed and the TV is his tomorrow.  Bless the DVR!

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   Posted: 1/27/2012 8:37:03 PM 
intrpdtrvlr wrote:
Rough timing for me.  The boy just had his tonsils removed and the TV is his tomorrow.  Bless the DVR!


 A great time for dad and son on the couch with a couple of bowls of ice cream watching the BOBCATS.  But then again it is hard to watch the Bobcats without occasionally having to yell at the TV.  Best not to risk your son aping dad the day after the tonsillectomy.  Hope recovery all goes well. 
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   Posted: 1/28/2012 8:12:33 AM 
JSF wrote:
I see I've made my annual move from "I don't think we're that good" to "You guys are being way too negative.".


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   Posted: 1/28/2012 9:32:42 AM 
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