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Ozcat
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  Message Not Read  Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 9:50:10 AM 
I found this extremely interesting.

BUBBLE BATTLES

Last Four In
Miami
Texas
Northwestern
South Florida

First Four Out
Xavier
Saint Joseph's
VCU
Colorado State

Next Four Out
Oregon
Colorado
Dayton
NC State

Also considered: Illinois, New Mexico State, Ohio, UCF

The fact that we're still garnering attention likely means very little for us this season.  However, with the entire roster coming back next year, I would think that we'll be on most short-lists for mid-major teams to watch next season.

I'm sure this has been discussed, but what does next year's schedule look like?  I'd love to see us increase the difficulty slightly if we could.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 10:48:51 AM 


Here is the best bracketology resource:  http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm 

It is a composite ranking of 95 bracketology sites. It averages them all to one field. 




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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 11:36:47 AM 
I believe we have UNI, Winthrop, and Marshall at home. Is the Oakland series over, or is there one more?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 12:20:38 PM 
It is nice that Lunardi considers us a "Bubble" team, but if you look at his bracket math and which teams he chose you will notice in the 12 teams he left out we are almost last.  So still a lot of work to try to jump 11 places and into that at-large pool. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 12:31:34 PM 
The only way we improve this picture next year is to upgrade our schedule.
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OUVan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:07:49 PM 
giacomo wrote:
The only way we improve this picture next year is to upgrade our schedule.


Our OOC schedule hurt a lot less than losing to EMU and Toledo.   Job one should be getting the best possible home-and-homes that we can.   We need to get some quality teams into the Convo.  We should also do whatever we need to do to get back in the Preseason NIT or some other marquee tournament. And stop scheduling more than one team that you know is going to have a +250 RPI.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:09:14 PM 
JSF wrote:
I believe we have UNI, Winthrop, and Marshall at home. Is the Oakland series over, or is there one more?


St. Bonaventure at home since we postponed the return game this season and replaced with UNI.
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:10:06 PM 
That's a solid home lineup. And I've heard suggestions we're going to take aim at some bigger targets next year.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:10:52 PM 
Also, we have a better SOS than VCU or Drexel.  RPI is not far behind and would be right there with them if we get two on the road this week.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:44:44 PM 
I hope we notice what Long Beach State has done this year. Their OOC schedule included losses against Kansas, Kansas State, UNC, Louisville, and SDSU, and wins against Pitt, Xavier, and Auburn. They are 21-7 and 13-0 in conference play. They have a comfortable RPI in the 30s and an SOS more than 100 spots higher than we do, and they're playing all those Cal States and UC-whomevers in conference.

The argument against this would be to look at Miami. How often does Miami really have the horses and system to win these games? Yeah, they almost beat UCLA and Kentucky, but they've also been smoked by Duke, Kansas, and West Virginia. None of LBSU's losses were laughers - the worst was 17 points against K-State. But no one talks about their losses. Everyone remembers that they beat Pitt, and they're in comfortable shape heading into tournament play.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 1:49:47 PM 
Too bad for The Beach the Pitt win isn't holding up. The key for them, though, is that they haven't lost in conference play.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 2:01:59 PM 
JSF wrote:
Too bad for The Beach the Pitt win isn't holding up. The key for them, though, is that they haven't lost in conference play.


In the RPI, no. However, I remember seeing in-game updates all night on Sportscenter. When they won, people took notice. Look at our 07-08 season. We had games against Kansas, St. John's and Maryland and we beat the latter two. While that was a young St. John's team, we beat a solid Maryland squad. Had we only scheduled Kansas, well, look how that turned out. This year, I'm sure we are capable of beating several BCS teams, but all we have is that Louisville loss. My point is the more of these games we schedule when we have the horses to make it competitive, the more likely we are to get a win here and there. And maybe that can prepare us for an undefeated MAC run like LBSU has this year.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 2:03:21 PM 
Sure, I'm mostly with you. I don't want to travel the country to play murderer's row, but I want to take a few shots.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 2:06:48 PM 
shabamon wrote:
I hope we notice what Long Beach State has done this year. Their OOC schedule included losses against Kansas, Kansas State, UNC, Louisville, and SDSU, and wins against Pitt, Xavier, and Auburn. They are 21-7 and 13-0 in conference play. They have a comfortable RPI in the 30s and an SOS more than 100 spots higher than we do, and they're playing all those Cal States and UC-whomevers in conference.


What would their RPI be if they were 10-4 in conference with losses to Cal Poly SLO and Cal Riverside (the Big West equivalent of EMU and Toledo)?

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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 6:47:22 PM 
shabby, you are right on the money! To be 23-6 and not even close to an at-large tells you all you need to know. Why not play some teams above your head? Heck, you might win some. Playing one team like Louisville this year doesn't help you. You're nervous and it's like winning the lottery if you win. But after that game you say as a player," we can play with these guys", so if you play three or four more, and you have a good team, you win a few. Sure, some years you get toasted, so what? If I'm a recruit, I want to play Iowa, or Pitt, not Kennesaw Mountain Landis State.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 6:51:16 PM 
giacomo wrote:
shabby, you are right on the money! To be 23-6 and not even close to an at-large tells you all you need to know.


No, it doesn't.


"Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Bracketology
   Posted: 2/29/2012 8:00:09 PM 
giacomo wrote:
shabby, you are right on the money! To be 23-6 and not even close to an at-large tells you all you need to know.


Yes, it does.
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