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Topic: Revisiting the schedule.

Topic: Revisiting the schedule.

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bornacatfan
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Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 11:11:20 AM

Looking and seeing LAmar and Norfolks are in is interesting. OUr guy is pretty good at turning stones and finding those teams that are returning players that should make a run in the tourney then negotiation contracts. GIven the St Bonny pull out there would have been another one in their conference final.

Pretty sure we would all want to see a few bigger names on the road and in the Convo next year props should be given to our guy who spend smany hours looking at rosters, trends, performance and available dates and co ordinating those facts to make the schedule.

I have not had the chance to go through our schedule and see how many of those ended up in the dance or in their conference final....a little dissapointed in the No Iowa and Oaklands melt downs but Oakland was a return game IIRC. ANyone who has done this please post.

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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 11:23:05 AM

I could be wrong, but I think six teams on our schedule played in conference tournament championship games.

Louisville, UNC Asheville, and Lamar won.

Robert Morris, Marshall and Akron lost.

(FTR, we played Norfolk last year, not this year.)

If my hasty calcs are correct, we'll be 2-1 against teams in the NCAA field, 3-1 if Marshall gets the longshot bid its fans are dreaming about.

bornacatfan
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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 12:16:41 PM

YOu are right Mike. It all runs together a bit after so many games....I think I got maybe Morgan and Norfolk mixed up ???

ANyay thanks for the return. Louisville showed they were beatable but still able to get to the final. GOod read Fuss...now if we can get them in the COnvo....after beating us a few times in the last few seasons they may feel a littel smug

perimeterpost
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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 12:24:50 PM

I was looking at this as well, as stated we have 3 opponents already in, and maybe a 4th if Marshall gets lucky. Interesting to note that Marshall and Robert Morris both made it to their conf. championship game but lost, we were close to having 5 of 15 in. Ark State made things interesting by knocking off the #1 seed to get to their conf. semifinal game.

What was worst for our resume- beating two teams with a combined record of 4-55 or losing to two MAC West teams?

In NCAA Tournament
013 Louisville(26-9) won conf. championship

103 UNC Ashville(21-9) won conf. championship
106 Lamar(21-11) won conf. championship

Remaining
043 Marshall(20-13) lost conf. championship
072 Northern Iowa(18-13) lost conf. first round
099 Robert Morris(24-10) lost conf. championship

139 Oakland(16-15) lost conf. first round

223 Akansas State(13-20) lost conf. semifinal
224 Wright State(12-19) lost conf. first round
237 Portland(6-24) lost conf. second round
286 Morgan State(9-20) lost conf. first round
289 NC A&T(9-20) lost conf. first round

326 TN Martin(2-27) DNQ for conf. tournament
331 Kennesaw State(2-28) DNQ for conf. tournament

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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 12:58:42 PM

Gents,

Be apprised that I am thrilled at Ohio's success. It was one heck of a memorable b-day gift. For a while anyway, last night made me feel much younger than my years, and I am grateful. This morning's inbox included Congratulations from friends who are grads of Ohio State, Kent State and Georgia Tech (this friend played for the Yellow Jackets).

But, to me at least, this season's non-conf schedule was the weakest in the 48 years I've been following the Cats. Before yesterday's game while I was attending a high school alumni association in my hometown - lots of miles on the road yesterday - my OSU friend asked if I thought OU would get an NCAA invite if the Cats lost to Akron.

My reply: "Coach Groce has taken a page from Coach Matta's scheduling approach. Book lots of cupcakes - Houston Baptist, for example - to pile up early season wins. But then Coach Matta can count on points for winning conference games, whereas Coach Groce can hope to win in the lesser-regarded MAC. So, no."

I am not advocating not scheduling any Kennesaw States, Mariettas or NC A&T's, but I'd like to see the non-conf schedule dotted with more than one - Louisville - indisputably tough opponent.

And, yes, I'd like to see a return to booking a quality tourney each season, the likes of the Stanford Invitational, Carrier Classic, Big Island Invitational, Great Alaska Shootout, etc - all tourneys Ohio has played in and several of which it has won.

Meanwhile, Go Cats. Do yourselves proud in Round 1.

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bornacatfan
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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 1:31:20 PM

HEy Perimeter

great work on this Thanks much ....

While the top loks pretty impressive, now seeing it in print and reading ike's comments I got to agree....

"they are who we thought they were"

I am mightily dissapointed in UNI and Oakland who should have been better. OTOH some of our recent visits/visitors such as Illinois state. Norfolk, Valpo and some others have really got better in a year...

OUVan
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RE: Revisiting the schedule.

Posted: 3/11/2012 4:44:46 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

286 Morgan State(9-20) lost conf. first round
289 NC A&T(9-20) lost conf. first round

326 TN Martin(2-27) DNQ for conf. tournament
331 Kennesaw State(2-28) DNQ for conf. tournament

With the MAC West in the shape it is in you can afford one of these on the schedule not four. We sort of got screwed by Wright State and Portland being much worse than they have been but the four teams above are exactly where they were expected to be.

Now that being said, it was the losses to Toledo and EMU that doomed our at large hopes not the OOC schedule. If we had won those two games we would be staring at a 29-5 record, a mid 30s RPI and about a 10 seed. Keep winning and we should start being able to get bigger and better teams to visit the Convo.

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