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Topic:  MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 9:26:35 AM 
That is, MAC athletic departments spend $4 per athlete to $1 per student in academic spending.

The crazy part? That's the smallest ratio in FBS: http://deadspin.com/5976391/sec-schools-spend-163931-per-athlete-and-other-ways-the-ncaa-is-a-bonfire-for-your-money


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 9:52:54 AM 
Wow...that is quite alarming. Very interesting article that gets you thinking. Thanks for sharing!
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 10:57:39 AM 

Something tells me the definition of "academic spending" is a big pile of crapola.

Anyway....  This type of research doesn't seem to be getting any traction.  Seems like there's some anti-athletics piece coming out every week.  Yet, athletics keeps on chugging.



Last Edited: 1/17/2013 11:02:06 AM by Ohio69


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 1:28:15 PM 
Who said it was anti-athletics? Can facts not be presented without being labeled as such? I'm sure the SEC has no problem with this.


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 1:41:50 PM 
It may not be anti-athletics but it is certainly biased in it's delivery.  It doesn't explain the details of the spending equally for both sides as a typical scientific paper would.  It is designed to be telling a story, not making an balanced evaluation.


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 4:40:21 PM 
At a very, very, very quick glance:  If it doesn't include the revenues that athlete-spending brings in, isn't it a poor analysis?

That is, if $1000 is spent on an athlete yet that brings in $2200 of revenue, aren't you ahead?


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/17/2013 8:22:54 PM 
And what is defined as revenue? Ticket sales? Seat licenses? Charitable giving?


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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/21/2013 1:16:43 PM 
The number of student athletes pales in comparison the general student population. Student athletes must travel, so you have meals. lodging and transporation. There are probably other costs I'm not thinking of at the moment.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/22/2013 1:13:10 PM 
giacomo wrote:
The number of student athletes pales in comparison the general student population. Student athletes must travel, so you have meals. lodging and transporation. There are probably other costs I'm not thinking of at the moment.


Right.  Isn't a study like this just stating the obvious?  Must be federally funded.

On the whole, it can't cost a penny more to educate an athlete and counting money spent elsewhere is illogical and self-serving for the "researcher".  Now, where the money to educate said athlete comes from - different question.

I'll bet universities spend more on drama majors, too, what with the sets, the costumes, lighting, make-up, posters, ushers, etc.  I think we should start cutting back on that stuff!
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/22/2013 1:21:44 PM 
Bobcatbob wrote:
giacomo wrote:
The number of student athletes pales in comparison the general student population. Student athletes must travel, so you have meals. lodging and transporation. There are probably other costs I'm not thinking of at the moment.


Right.  Isn't a study like this just stating the obvious?  Must be federally funded.

On the whole, it can't cost a penny more to educate an athlete and counting money spent elsewhere is illogical and self-serving for the "researcher".  Now, where the money to educate said athlete comes from - different question.

I'll bet universities spend more on drama majors, too, what with the sets, the costumes, lighting, make-up, posters, ushers, etc.  I think we should start cutting back on that stuff!


Actually it does cost more to educate an athlete than the typical student, because of the "services" that Athletes receive that are redundit to basic services that the student receives.  Services such as their own computer labs, academic advisors, and healthcare.  Then you have the benefits that each institution can provide that are permitted by the NCAA, such as per-diems when not in school or travel, separate dining facilities (not at Ohio I believe) and living quarters (see UK).  However, as far as this study goes, yeah it's just common sense that Athletes receive more in $$$ spent, because the institution has an investment in these athletes.
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  Message Not Read  RE: MAC Spends $4 Per Athlete to $1 Per Student
   Posted: 1/28/2013 4:05:05 PM 
m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/01/28/Colleges/Tennessee.aspx

"Now, after staggering to losing football seasons in four of the last five years and seeing attendance drop to levels last seen in the 1970s, the Vols find themselves mired in more than $200 million of debt, the most in the SEC, with reserves of just $1.95 million, the least in the conference. 

The athletic department spends a startling $21 million a year on debt payments, $13.5 million of which comes from the school’s stressed $99.5 million athletic budget and the rest from donations."

Last Edited: 1/28/2013 4:07:02 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

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