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Topic: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

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Ted Thompson
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Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 11:18:42 AM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related.

Date: February 6th, 2013 7:00 PM

Opponent: Ball St. (8-12, 2-6 MAC)

Site: Worthen Arena

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 3:54:04 PM

I'm not worried about this one in the least. Mainly, I'm interested in seeing our bigs playing good defense against Majok. Should get us ready for Akron: Round II.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 4:32:47 PM

Ozcat wrote:

I'm not worried about this one in the least. Mainly, I'm interested in seeing our bigs playing good defense against Majok. Should get us ready for Akron: Round II.

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But, we haven't had our any of our annual head scratching MAC road losses yet.......

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 4:38:10 PM

This one has me slightly worried. I know they lost comfortably to BG, but something inside tells me we will start this game flat. I hope I'm wrong.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 10:04:17 PM

Ozcat wrote:

I'm not worried about this one in the least.

Every MAC road game should worry us.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/4/2013 10:08:31 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ozcat wrote:

I'm not worried about this one in the least.

Every MAC road game should worry us.

Not this year. Home court hasn't meant much in the conference.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 8:46:11 AM

JSF wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ozcat wrote:

I'm not worried about this one in the least.

Every MAC road game should worry us.

Not this year. Home court hasn't meant much in the conference.

On top of that, the drop off after Ohio, Akron, WMU, then EMU/Kent is rather noticeable. I've never seen this big of a gap from 1st to 5th or 6th in our conference. Part could be that OU and Akron are that good, but it also seems that the rest of the MAC is pretty bad.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 9:04:32 AM

JSF wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ozcat wrote:

I'm not worried about this one in the least.

Every MAC road game should worry us.

Not this year. Home court hasn't meant much in the conference.

I side with McKinney on this one. Seen way too many good Ohio teams lose to bad MAC teams on the road to feel completely confident.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 10:13:12 AM

I can see this being closer than it should be early with our boys pulling away in the 2nd half for a double digit win. Ball St has had some ugly losses, but I fully expect an Akron hangover in the 1st half.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 11:43:25 AM

Ball State is winless at home in MAC play, losing to Toledo, Buffalo and Kent State.

As a whole, the away team has won 22 of 47 MAC games so far (46.8 percent), so JSF is right in that home-court advantage has been minimal so far this year.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 12:08:37 PM

Looking at the numbers, BSU is a bad shooting team, though they do appear to go to the line a bunch more than their opponents. They turn the ball over more than their opponents as well. Honestly, if we play our game, I think JC's guys will take care of business. I don't question that at all, but the memory of past year's, where a game like this would be a "trip up" game, is there for me too.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 12:35:31 PM

TOS - Believed in "Life On The Road". Didn't seem to even care if we dropped road games.

JG - Much better than TOS, but still seemed to occasionally lose a few games we had no business losing.

JC - Knows how to win the MAC. Understands every game in a grind. Doesn't seem to let his teams look ahead. And not too mention, the MAC is as terrible as it has been in a long, long time.

I have a feeling Coop is not overly happy about Abreu's recent performance overshadowing him, and that Akron is starting to grab headlines. I think we see a focused Coop, which translates into a focused team. He wants MAC POW honors back. Bobcats start rolling towards 2/27.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 1:12:38 PM

UpSan Bobcat wrote:

What you're saying makes perfect sense, but I'm still expecting a grind it out game.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/5/2013 2:30:05 PM

I'm seeing a game similar to what we had in Oxford a few weeks ago. BSU will give a good game to start the first half but will start to wilt towards halftime, with the cats up say 8-9 points. We put our paws on their throats in the first 10 of the second half, putting in the clean pants towards the end.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 11:28:07 AM

10.5 point favorites. Go Cats!

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:07:07 PM

Not sure this has been mentioned but since the EMU game was cancelled this is our fourth road game in a row. We only have three road MAC contests left after this.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 8:09:31 PM

IVO BALTIC.....why does he play so much. He is scared period. Never seen somebody so nervous about going to the rim. 5 ft fade away jump shot. he will not at any cost go for a layup. Christian, please don't play him. Play him 5 minutes a game to give the other players a breather. I'd rather have sophmore Ivo than senior Ivo.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 8:30:21 PM

Ball State is bad. This might be the worst team in the MAC, although its hard to say since we havent even seen BG yet. Ball State seems to be a program that should be better than they actually are and are an underachiever in this conference. It would be nice to have Ball State at least be competitive again to give the MAC another credible team.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 8:50:21 PM

ohiobobnorthguy wrote:

I would love to see him play back to the aggressive level he used to. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's going to happen. But hey, if he makes those long shots, I can live with them.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 8:57:01 PM

If before the year you said we would have four straight road games in Oxford, Kent Akron and Muncie and go 3-1 I would take that every time. Miami and Ball State arent what they used to be and Kent is down this year but still to win 3 out of 4 on the road is great. Conference titles are won with road victories. Akron is getting all of the press but until they beat us in Athens or Cleveland talk is cheap. Our last 3 road games are @BG @Buffalo and @CMU which are all bottom feeders. We could very well end up 7-1 on the road in the MAC. Ball State is a team that is terrible and seems to have quit on their coach but this was about as dominating of a victory as you can have. I like where this team is now and feel really good about where this team is going

Last Edited: 2/6/2013 8:57:58 PM by ClevelandCat '11

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 8:59:21 PM

ohiobobnorthguy wrote:

This is either an overreaction or somebody who has only watched a few games. JC benched him in favor of Hall and you're mad because Ivo still got playing time. He would have had less if Hall hadn't had foul trouble. You're mad because he got playing time in a blowout game?

Anyways, Hall is the hot hand right now and Ivo will have to step up his game to earn his starting position back. In baseball, this would be a hitting slump for Ivo. JC is doing the right thing by mixing things up. I'm sure it's all mental with Ivo right now and he will get out of this slump. Baltic, Offutt, and Kellogg are three very important players who have had their share of slumps this year. It's a long season. Don't panic.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 9:03:14 PM

Now we know why BSU doesn't have the score posted at the bottom of the screen on its streaming video.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 9:04:10 PM

Feeling a bit spoiled as I should be thrilled to pick up a MAC win in a convincing fashion. Listening to post game show and it appears I'm the only one not as thrilled as I should be after a 30 point blowout road victory. Liked the defense, like the killer instinct coming out of the second half, but stil a bit disappointed that:

*Nothing but jump shots. Realizing we live/dive by the jump shot, but very few easy one's. Seems like last year others respecting our outside shooting provided opportunities to slash and back door cuts. Nothing but bombs tonight.
*As mentioned above, Ivo passing up open lanes and just telling JC the best he can, "I'm not playing the power forward spot!!!" Only Ivo has the skil set to slash, dink & dunk, up & under, inside/out.... but he doesn't do any of this other than shoot jumpers so I play TJ when I want finesse and I put Kadeem or Reggie/Jon in together when I want more power/rebounding. Glad JC started TJ, even though "good Ivo" is more valuable to us than TJ. But we haven't seen "good Ivo" in forever.
*Stevie wild and not very good tonight. Kellog/Wilkins one dimensional and the one dimension not hitting. Still want to see Walter being more assertive. His stat line looked good due to hitting three x three's early, but we all know what Walt looks like when he's clicking and while 17 points/player of the game sounds great--I still want the end of the year guy all the way back. .

Stats will look good due to second half of loading up on stats, but why am I not more satisfied with a great bounce back after the Akron game, not to mention yet another road win. Maybe I'm cranky tonight, but maybe Ball State was just awful and these are the things we must expect in order to win against better teams.

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 9:09:55 PM

Really like TJ's game. He has great instincts on offense and seems to know what's doing on defense. His knees look healthier. Hope he continues to improve!

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RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Ball State

Posted: 2/6/2013 9:14:58 PM

JSF wrote:

Really like TJ's game. He has great instincts on offense and seems to know what's doing on defense. His knees look healthier. Hope he continues to improve!

Agreed. You can tell his knees have been a frustration for him all season. Good to see him playing well again.

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