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Obviously it doesn't mean much right now, but it's always good to have media folks talking about our Bobcats. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-co... Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,365 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 3:06:01 PM  It's great he's thinking about us, but realistically I think it's a stretch.  Our two wins this past week (vs. 244 CMU & 180 Kent) got us from an 82 RPI to a 74.  The cutoff for an at-large will likely be upper 40s.  If beating EMU (233), Belmont (25) and Akron (48) can get us under 60, we might have a shot.  Our last three regular season games won't be much help.  Buffalo is at 224, BGSUcks is at 241 and Fiami is at 262.  (Akron beat EMU and BG this past week and climbed only from 51 to 48.)  To have a shot at an at-large, we'd have to win out the regular season and beat WMU (114) in the semis of the MAC tourney before losing to Akron in the championship game if we're the #2 seed.  If we went in as the #1 seed, we should pull for seeing Kent in the semis.  [RPIs are as of 2/18 from the NCAA.] So realistically we need to win out to get to the NCAA tourney.  And if we do -- beating Akron once or twice, Belmont, WMU and/or Kent -- we might get a 12 seed, but more likely a 13. Last Edited: 2/18/2013 3:09:55 PM by Pataskala We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 3:41:25 PM  I know it's unlikely, but I did like that he brought us into the discussion.  This is where I always throw into the conversation my disagreement with any at-large team getting in with a losing record in their conference.  Right now, that might include Minnesota and JG's Illini.  I'm really opposed to that because I don't see how a team that wasn't one of the best in it's own conference should be considered as one of the 30+ best teams to be at-large selections. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 4:19:54 PM  One game at time here is the key. A win against EMU on Wednesday and Ohio clinches a #3 seed and a 20 win season. That is a good milestone for JC because I don't know if an Ohio coach has ever won 20 games in year 1 of his regime. Belmont and Akron are going to be very tough games. I'm hoping that we can at least split. Unless Ohio wins out to the MAC finals the only road is the MAC tournament.   Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 4:25:37 PM  OU_Country wrote: I know it's unlikely, but I did like that he brought us into the discussion.  This is where I always throw into the conversation my disagreement with any at-large team getting in with a losing record in their conference.  Right now, that might include Minnesota and JG's Illini.  I'm really opposed to that because I don't see how a team that wasn't one of the best in it's own conference should be considered as one of the 30+ best teams to be at-large selections. They should require a .500 conference record for an at-large berth and look at the last 10 games. I'm not sure if they give a bonus to road wins vs. home wins but they did for a while. With recruiting more of an exact science today there aren't too many teams capable of winning a game in the NCAAs left at home though. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,812 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 4:48:59 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: They should require a .500 conference record for an at-large berth and look at the last 10 games. I'm not sure if they give a bonus to road wins vs. home wins but they did for a while. With recruiting more of an exact science today there aren't too many teams capable of winning a game in the NCAAs left at home though. Home wins and road wins are factored into the RPI now, so it's a factor. Supposedly the committee does consider to some extent how a team has been playing recently. Of course, there is no minimum conference record requirement. Last Edited: 2/18/2013 5:12:38 PM by UpSan Bobcat Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,812 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 5:12:06 PM  Pataskala wrote: The cutoff for an at-large will likely be upper 40s.  If beating EMU (233), Belmont (25) and Akron (48) can get us under 60, we might have a shot.  By my calculations, going 3-0 in these games probably would raise Ohio to around 60, depending on the results of other games. Going even 2-1 will give the Bobcats a good boost. Back to Top JerseyArnie General User Member Since: 12/5/2012 Post Count: 364 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 7:31:30 PM  OU_Country wrote: I know it's unlikely, but I did like that he brought us into the discussion.  This is where I always throw into the conversation my disagreement with any at-large team getting in with a losing record in their conference.  Right now, that might include Minnesota and JG's Illini.  I'm really opposed to that because I don't see how a team that wasn't one of the best in it's own conference should be considered as one of the 30+ best teams to be at-large selections. Illinois has beaten #1 Indiana, #8 Ohio State,, #10 Gonzega, #18 Minnesota...and have now won 4 in a row in the Big 10.  I believe they deserve to be in the tournament, even with a losing record  6-7 in THE Big 10. Back to Top Ozcat General User Member Since: 1/4/2005 Location: Gahanna, OH Post Count: 820 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 9:17:57 PM  I'm fairly certain they do not look at conference record at all. They judge each team based on total body if work, and they do tend to reward you for tough road wins and recent record.  There's no way they should look at conference record, as conference power shifts each year. The Big Ten is absolutely stacked this season, while the PAC 12 and SEC are both down per their usual standard.  The Big Ten and Big East both deserve 7 teams. I do believe conference domination should also count for something though. If Akron and Ohio both go 15-1, that is damn impressive and IMO should be rewarded. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 9:30:57 PM  JerseyArnie wrote: Illinois has beaten #1 Indiana, #8 Ohio State,, #10 Gonzega, #18 Minnesota...and have now won 4 in a row in the Big 10.  I believe they deserve to be in the tournament, even with a losing record  6-7 in THE Big 10. As much as I detest that thought it is correct. They did their OOC work. They should win a couple more BIGfinity games. Wes. Sorry ....I do not think being the first 1st year coach in OHIO history to win 20 games is much of an accomplishment when you have every one back off a sweet 16 team. Not wanting to be negative but his goals have to be higher than to win 20 games with that many ponies in the stable and a seasoned upperclass laden team. Just my opinion of course FWIW. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top PalmerFest General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 398 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 10:08:38 PM  At large chances evaporated with the Winthrop game.  Put it out of your mind.  Win MAC, Win Tourney.  Only goals now IMO. Back to Top Turney13 General User Member Since: 7/27/2010 Post Count: 358 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 10:30:17 PM  Akron needs us to beat Belmont more than we need to beat Belmont... hate to say it, but best case scenario for the MAC is we win all of our games except home vs. Akron and then we beat Akron in the MAC championship game - probably only chance we get two teams in...  Turney Duff Twitter: @turneyduff Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 11:54:38 PM  Turney--Apparently your excellent book is available now.  Is there a way to buy it through you such that I end up with an autographed copy?  Thanks, Monroe Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 11:57:29 PM  bornacatfan wrote: Wes. Sorry ....I do not think being the first 1st year coach in OHIO history to win 20 games is much of an accomplishment when you have every one back off a sweet 16 team. Not wanting to be negative but his goals have to be higher than to win 20 games with that many ponies in the stable and a seasoned upperclass laden team. Just my opinion of course FWIW. JC hasn't bombed so I would at least give his a body of work a B. Its an A if he can make in back to the NCAAs. Ohio is an NCAA caliber program that without doubt that has the talent to belong in the field. This is not a Sweet 16 level program. Ohio is capable of winning some games in the tournament because of the system run and players recruited around that system. The school won't get a decent seed because of the MAC but out of a stronger conference like the A10 the Bobcats would be at the #7 to #10 seed level. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top catfan28 General User Member Since: 6/11/2011 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 1,503 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/18/2013 11:58:00 PM  IF we win out, there may be an outside shot. But, I think it's win in Cleveland or bust. Let's not take any chances!  Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 12:18:22 AM  Uncle Wes wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Wes. Sorry ....I do not think being the first 1st year coach in OHIO history to win 20 games is much of an accomplishment when you have every one back off a sweet 16 team. Not wanting to be negative but his goals have to be higher than to win 20 games with that many ponies in the stable and a seasoned upperclass laden team. Just my opinion of course FWIW. JC hasn't bombed so I would at least give his a body of work a B. Its an A if he can make in back to the NCAAs. Ohio is an NCAA caliber program that without doubt that has the talent to belong in the field. This is not a Sweet 16 level program. Ohio is capable of winning some games in the tournament because of the system run and players recruited around that system. The school won't get a decent seed because of the MAC but out of a stronger conference like the A10 the Bobcats would be at the #7 to #10 seed level. that is a pretty good summary. The 20 win mark is fast losing its significance as teams play more and more games each year. I agree the sentiment on a stronger conference. Going to see the Dukes vs Butler tomorrow. There is a ton of difference between the top and bottom of that conference but the top has a gathering of teams that are tough come toruney time. THat said, the OHIO I have envisoned in the future is a perennial force in the MAC and has dominance written all over it. We will see how that plays out. The foundation has been set. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 12:23:16 AM  This program is starting to turn the corner to being in the NCAA's every year or close to it. The days of 7-9 MAC seasons are thankfully done. JC has never won less than 11 games in the MAC. Cooper is going to end up as the program's Matt Santangelo the one player that got the program rolling. The Ohio program is a perfect fit for JC as a veteran coach where the pay bumps will be there but not the pressure of trying to win at a lower tier power conference program.  Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,597 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 9:23:26 AM  Turney13 wrote: Akron needs us to beat Belmont more than we need to beat Belmont... hate to say it, but best case scenario for the MAC is we win all of our games except home vs. Akron and then we beat Akron in the MAC championship game - probably only chance we get two teams in...  I agree that Akron needs us to beat Belmont more than we need to beat Belmont, but I disagree on the rest. If Akron beats us in the Convo and we win every other game this season (including Belmont) and beat Akron in the MAC title.  Akron is a lock to get in.  100%.  Sure thing. Now if we win out period, including Belmont, and Akron 2 times, I still think Akron has a shot to get in if they win every other game.  A pretty good shot... Ohio at-large?  If we can beat Belmont and Akron and lose to Akron in the final, it is possible.  Not as likely as the 2 cases above, but we would at least get mention on the show as a bubble team I think. ... The "bubble teams" at this point in the season frustrate me.  All the analysts look at resumes as of now, not how they think they will be at seasons end.  No one was talking about Akron and Ohio on the bubble 1 month ago because their resume didn't merit it...  The issue with that is that both Ohio and Akron were favored to win out a month ago...  And if they win out, then their resume doesn't look so bad... I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 9:42:52 AM  PalmerFest wrote: At large chances evaporated with the Winthrop game.  Put it out of your mind.  Win MAC, Win Tourney.  Only goals now IMO. The Winthrop game could have been negated if we had won any of our big road games.  Our biggest problem isn't negatives on our resume. It's the lack of punctuation wins. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 11:14:26 AM  Ozcat wrote: I'm fairly certain they do not look at conference record at all. They judge each team based on total body if work, and they do tend to reward you for tough road wins and recent record.  There's no way they should look at conference record, as conference power shifts each year. The Big Ten is absolutely stacked this season, while the PAC 12 and SEC are both down per their usual standard.  The Big Ten and Big East both deserve 7 teams. I do believe conference domination should also count for something though. If Akron and Ohio both go 15-1, that is damn impressive and IMO should be rewarded. I disagree - they should look at conference records. No matter how good the B1G is, (or the Big East/ACC in the past) there's no way you can tell me that going through a conference like that with a 7-9 or 8-10 record warrants an at-large bid.  Beat the schedule you're given with at least a .500 conference record, and try to schedule a decent non-conf schedule. I like the "conference dominance" concept, but obviously that will likely never come into play for conferences like ours. bornacatfan wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Wes. Sorry ....I do not think being the first 1st year coach in OHIO history to win 20 games is much of an accomplishment when you have every one back off a sweet 16 team. Not wanting to be negative but his goals have to be higher than to win 20 games with that many ponies in the stable and a seasoned upperclass laden team. Just my opinion of course FWIW. JC hasn't bombed so I would at least give his a body of work a B. Its an A if he can make in back to the NCAAs. Ohio is an NCAA caliber program that without doubt that has the talent to belong in the field. This is not a Sweet 16 level program. Ohio is capable of winning some games in the tournament because of the system run and players recruited around that system. The school won't get a decent seed because of the MAC but out of a stronger conference like the A10 the Bobcats would be at the #7 to #10 seed level. that is a pretty good summary. The 20 win mark is fast losing its significance as teams play more and more games each year. I agree the sentiment on a stronger conference. Going to see the Dukes vs Butler tomorrow. There is a ton of difference between the top and bottom of that conference but the top has a gathering of teams that are tough come toruney time. THat said, the OHIO I have envisoned in the future is a perennial force in the MAC and has dominance written all over it. We will see how that plays out. The foundation has been set. Seems to me the new mark should really be 24-25 wins to show a program's excellence.  If you play 30-31 games before the postseason, that's a 24-7 record at worst prior to tournament time.  20 seems to have been the magic number back when 26-28 games were played. Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 3,090 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 1:35:04 PM  Not sure what everyone is smoking here...a few years back I analyzed the "at-large" tourney teams.  I've looked at it every year since (although casually).  Basically, you need an RPI of 50 or less to get an at large (even then with a losing record you don't get in).  So, you can talk about wins and losses and all that, I just don't see how we get to an RPI of 50 or less.  If we do we are in.  If we don't we are out.  That is why at this point the only gmes that count are the MAC tourney games in march.  Best scenario for the MAC is that Akron gets the less than 50 RPI (possible) and we beat them in the Championship game.  I don't think OHIO beating Belmont and Akron (one of two) gets us to the magical "less than 50 RPI". Back to Top Shawn Sellers General User Member Since: 1/4/2005 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 221 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 3:28:16 PM  Casper71 wrote: Not sure what everyone is smoking here...a few years back I analyzed the "at-large" tourney teams.  I've looked at it every year since (although casually).  Basically, you need an RPI of 50 or less to get an at large (even then with a losing record you don't get in).  So, you can talk about wins and losses and all that, I just don't see how we get to an RPI of 50 or less.  If we do we are in.  If we don't we are out.  That is why at this point the only gmes that count are the MAC tourney games in march.  Best scenario for the MAC is that Akron gets the less than 50 RPI (possible) and we beat them in the Championship game.  I don't think OHIO beating Belmont and Akron (one of two) gets us to the magical "less than 50 RPI". http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/ct/Ohio.html I know the above website is a crude exercise. It assumes that every other team finishes according to it''s most likely finish. But according to it, if we lost only 1 game the remainder of the season, say for instance the MAC Championship game, our most likely RPI finish would be around 44. But we are a long way from that folks. Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,723 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 3:37:49 PM  The guys at Dance Card formula use previous NCAA at-large selections to determine how future committees will select. Ohio is way off the pace.  During the Kent St. game, they showed Ohio's tourney resume. Best win was....Richmond. Ohio had its chance with UMass, Memphis and Oklahoma. Win 2 of those and get 14 MAC wins and you get in even with the Winthrop/RMU losses. Win one and you're squarely on the bubble. http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm Below are rankings of all NCAA Division I men's basketball teams through the games of Sunday, February 17, 2013, according to the "Dance Card" formula developed by Jay Coleman of the University of North Florida, Mike DuMond of Charles River Associates, and Allen Lynch of Mercer University.  The Dance Card is a formula designed to predict which teams will receive at-large tournament bids from the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. To get the rankings shown below, we have removed the historical conference-related biases found in the past committee decisions on which the Dance Card was based. In other words, if the current committee is free of the same biases, its decisions should closely match the predictions below.  Last season the "biased" Dance Card correctly predicted 35 of 37 at-large bids (95%). The "unbiased" version correctly predicted 36 of 37 bids (97%), suggesting that last year's committee closely followed the performance-related patterns of past committees, without also showing similar historical biases.  In addition to the Dance Card value and ranking, also shown is the probability that a team with the same profile would have gotten an at-large bid in past years, if today was Selection Sunday. (Although the bubble line reflects this year's 68-team (37 at-large bid) field, the probability shown reflects a 65-team (34 at-large bid) Tournament.) The RPI ranks are from the old RPI formula, in which wins on the road and losses at home are weighted equally. This is the version of the RPI used in the Dance Card's development, and the version used to generate the predictions in all past years.  Rank Team (@=automatic bid) Dance Card Chance of Bid RPI Rank 1 Duke 9.8974 100.00% 1 2 Indiana 9.4029 100.00% 9 3 Michigan St. 9.2378 100.00% 7 4 Kansas 8.5978 100.00% 4 5 Michigan 8.4857 100.00% 12           6 Miami FL 8.3069 100.00% 2 7 Louisville 8.2142 100.00% 8 8 Gonzaga 7.7175 100.00% 10 9 Wisconsin 7.3618 100.00% 21 10 Georgetown 7.3583 100.00% 14           11 Florida 7.2257 100.00% 5 12 Syracuse 6.3483 100.00% 11 13 New Mexico 6.2850 100.00% 3 14 Arizona 6.1705 100.00% 6 15 Marquette 5.9332 100.00% 15           16 Kansas St. 5.6515 100.00% 18 17 Oklahoma St. 5.1056 100.00% 24 18 Pittsburgh 4.8617 100.00% 30 19 Illinois 4.4089 100.00% 20 20 Minnesota 4.3687 100.00% 13           21 Colorado St. 4.2734 100.00% 16 22 Ohio St. 4.0890 100.00% 26 23 Cincinnati 3.9336 100.00% 29 24 Butler 3.6739 99.99% 23 26 North Carolina St. 2.9702 99.85% 22           27 San Diego St. 2.9648 99.85% 35 28 Oklahoma 2.9293 99.83% 19 29 UCLA 2.7379 99.69% 31 30 Colorado 2.6527 99.60% 28 31 Memphis 2.2616 98.81% 17           32 Notre Dame 2.2503 98.78% 42 33 Oregon 2.1459 98.41% 39 34 Virginia Commonwealth 2.0992 98.21% 32 35 Nevada Las Vegas 1.6977 95.52% 25 36 St. Louis 1.5896 94.40% 40           37 Baylor 1.1438 87.36% 45 38 Wichita St. 1.1394 87.27% 36 39 North Carolina 1.0795 85.98% 33 40 California 1.0209 84.63% 46 41 Villanova 0.9349 82.51% 59           42 Creighton 0.8172 79.31% 44 43 Missouri 0.7576 77.57% 41 44 La Salle 0.6679 74.79% 38 45 Kentucky 0.0200 50.80% 43 46 Middle Tennessee -0.0680 47.29% 34           47 St. Mary's -0.3658 35.73% 48 48 Virginia -0.4942 31.06% 81 49 Iowa St. -0.4975 30.94% 57 50 Mississippi -0.5953 27.58% 52 *** THE BUBBLE BURSTS HERE *** 51 St. John's -0.6574 25.55% 50           52 Maryland -0.6903 24.50% 53 53 Alabama -0.9214 17.84% 54 54 Arizona St. -1.0843 13.91% 62 55 Belmont -1.1603 12.30% 37 56 Iowa -1.2771 10.08% 75           57 Louisiana Tech -1.4860 6.86% 61 58 Temple -1.6941 4.51% 47 59 Southern Mississippi -1.7189 4.28% 49 60 Akron -1.9309 2.67% 60 61 Florida St. -2.2726 1.15% 55           62 Arkansas -2.5405 0.55% 69 63 Tennessee -2.7903 0.26% 63 64 Massachusetts -2.8974 0.19% 51 65 Providence -2.9140 0.18% 72 66 Brigham Young -2.9159 0.18% 66           67 Northern Iowa -2.9360 0.17% 68 68 Stanford -2.9803 0.14% 67 69 Charlotte -3.1236 0.09% 58 70 Air Force -3.4066 0.03% 73 71 Washington -3.9555 0.00% 74           72 Boise St. -3.9651 0.00% 56 73 Indiana St. -3.9655 0.00% 71 74 Xavier -4.1160 0.00% 93 75 Denver -4.4923 0.00% 98 76 Detroit -5.0129 0.00% 77           77 Wyoming -5.3965 0.00% 65 78 Southern California -5.4159 0.00% 88 79 Ohio -5.4289 0.00% 84 80 Texas A&M -5.6235 0.00% 64 81 New Mexico St. -5.8117 0.00% 90   Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top Chicken George General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 765 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/19/2013 5:24:37 PM  Aside from the big bucks, this is also a significant reason why coaches who can get out of the MAC and into a better conference, do.  You're 19-6, you've lost one sticken game in a couple months and you're not even in the discussion.  Playing the MAC regular season is merely an exhibition, other than seeding.  Same goes for Akron realizing that they too could win out, lose in the MAC Championship game and have to sweat bullets on Selection Sunday.  Truly the biggest MAC Basketball Bummer of all, but it's the reality everyone lives with. Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 3,090 Status: Offline     RE: Norlander on CBS sports - bracket projections    Posted: 2/20/2013 11:08:17 AM  Just another reason to get out of the MAC and leave the company we now keep.  The MAC overall is not helping OUr team in basketball or football...not that there haven't been times that we were the hinderance! Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 34 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 241 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 241 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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