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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 12:09:59 AM 
I thought the UL-UM game was, perhaps, the worst officiated game I've seen a long time.  I really did not have a great rooting interest in this game, so I think I was fairly neutral.  My son-in-law's family are big UL fans, but my daughter graduated from Michigan, so I can be happy with either result. I saw what I thought were several muggings where no foul was called.  I saw jump balls that I thought were fouls.  I saw defensive fouls that I thought were charges and the other way around.  But, what really bothered me was the sense I got throughout the game that I was watching football without the benefits of shoulder pads and helmets.  Did anyone else see it like this, or am I just overreacting for some reason?  Curious what others thought.


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Chicken George
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 12:43:21 AM 
IMO basketball all together has become much too physical.  It's legal and you play to the strengths of your team and what the refs are allowing, but I really hate the slow down, slugfest, 50 points in a game, type games.  At times it almost seems as though they need to play 4 on 4, or widen the court and raise the height of the basket or just something so it doesn't seem like they're nerf basketball games played in someones bedroom by 6 foot guys on a 7 foot door.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 10:32:20 AM 
OCF, I don't disagree with your assessment of what was called/not called. But I found that to be refreshing. This was perhaps one of the best championship college basketball games I've watched and I think that one of the reasons is that -- for the most part -- the refs let these guys play. I do think Burke's breakaway block was a clean block. I believe the basketball game has been too dominated by ref whistles that slow the game down and take away the rhythm for players and fans.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 10:41:36 AM 
Hard to believe they missed the goal tend at the beginning, the kicked ball right in front of one official, the grab on GRIII's arm on the made basket, and Behannon got absolutely mugged on his rebounding extravaganza in that one sequence.  But the flow was absolutely better.  Those calls would not have infringed on the flow of the game.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 12:35:09 PM 
Without question the refs "let 'em play". Really appreciated the lack of the ticky-tack stuff not being called. I also thought the refs were unbiased in their calling of the game. It was rough playing for both teams and if nothing else it was entertaining.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 12:57:25 PM 
OCF you've just been conditioned to watch horrible officiating over the past season such as ridiculous charge/block calls, ticky tack hand check fouls, laughable continuation calls, and taking 10 min to sort out milisecond clock issues at the end of the game. The officials let them play tonight and the result was finally a watchable NCAA tournament game.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 1:03:02 PM 
bobcat28 wrote:
.....The officials let them play tonight and the result was finally a watchable NCAA tournament game.


I'm not so sure.  Jay Bilas calls college defense "organized fouling".  I'm starting to agree.  I wonder how much more fun college would be if they called all the fouls so organized fouling wasn't allowed and then guys were really allowed to play without all the bumping, moving picks, undercutting, grabbing, and etc. 

It did make for an exciting game however.



Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 4:59:05 PM 
bobcat28 wrote:
OCF you've just been conditioned to watch horrible officiating over the past season such as ridiculous charge/block calls, ticky tack hand check fouls, laughable continuation calls, and taking 10 min to sort out milisecond clock issues at the end of the game. The officials let them play tonight and the result was finally a watchable NCAA tournament game.


You may be right, but I thought I saw at least one take down (not called) that would have made Frank Solich want to recruit a new DB.  At one point the announcers said that a particularly good call shouldn't have been made because before the defender knocked the guy who formerly held the ball to the ground with his shoulder and forearm that he had "touched the ball."  So, touching the ball first makes all subsequent contact OK?  We wouldn't even let that one stand in the pick-up league that I still play in.  Yes, a little incidental contact on a steal is one thing, but knocking the opponent to the ground is quite another.  I remember one play in one of our pickup games where on a switch off I ended up guarding the largest guy on the court.  He lowered his shoulder right into my chest went for the basket and sent me flying into the retracted bleachers.  This gentleman immediately called a charge on himself, as I lay dazed on the floor.  Last night that would have been incidental contact!  At least that's my perspective.  It would be interesting to go back and look at a number of the calls (and non calls) last night in slow mo and see if my old eyes were seeing things right in real time or not. 

Last Edited: 4/9/2013 5:00:37 PM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Officiating in Championship Game
   Posted: 4/9/2013 6:00:31 PM 
I have heard a lot of complaining today from many sources about the refs last night. I have to say while there were a few plays that may have been questionable I generally liked that the refs stayed out of the way of the game. I didn't notice many players complaining and that was a GREAT game to watch and seemingly play  in.  The only call I had a real issue with is one that involved no contact. I hate when refs anticipate a foul. The block by Burke on Seva on that fast break was as clean as could be especially considering the way the game was being called and at least two refs raised an arm to call it.
 

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