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  Message Not Read  UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 1:41:36 PM 
"Eastern Michigan has a very high-style arena. It's going to be very tough to play in there, and those guys are going to be very up to play us," he said.

He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 1:43:23 PM 
I disagree.  It has to be extremely difficult to play in an arena that has no energy in it. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 1:56:34 PM 
Would not be surprised if EMU wins this game. Anyone else thinking same thing?


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 2:12:52 PM 
I think EMU can win but it doesn't have anything to do with it being a tough place to play. EMU's got a tough squad this year. Not looking forward to Ohio traveling up to the Echo Center later this year to face their team.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 2:57:29 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
"Eastern Michigan has a very high-style arena. It's going to be very tough to play in there, and those guys are going to be very up to play us," he said.

He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


We haven't won up there since 2006.
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 4:51:00 PM 
OUVan wrote:
We haven't won up there since 2006.


I believe the problem there is the "sight lines," right borna? 


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 5:16:37 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 5:22:50 PM 
Probably because it feels too much like a practice.

Last Edited: 12/3/2013 5:23:05 PM by fsohio09

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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 5:25:32 PM 
JSF wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?

 
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 6:51:16 PM 
"The towels are too itchy there. I'm not sure we're going to be able to hang with them after using itchy towels."
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 7:37:08 PM 
Eastern Michigan leads UMASS 28-24 with 3:13 left in first half.

Also, looks like they actually have some fans in attendance.
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 7:44:09 PM 
At the half, EMU leads UMASS 35-31.

EMU only 3-12 from the free throw line.
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 7:44:35 PM 
35-31 EMU at halftime. EMU shooting an abysmal 3-12 from the line.
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 8:52:59 PM 
Watched the last three or four minutes of the game, where they played like a typical EMU team. (fouling on three point makes, missing layups, bricking FTs). But the surprising thing is they actually had more than 10 fans there.
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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 10:34:54 PM 
Exactly 1304 more than 10, to be exact.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 10:52:47 PM 
1300 fans and the announcers were genuinely excited about the size of the crowd. have mercy.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 11:42:50 PM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
He's right about the arena, but good golly, it's not a tough place to play...


I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?

 

Yes. They vary.............

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/3/2013 11:51:24 PM 
Looking forward to see if his "coach speak" 'bout playin' in the Convo will include 4 Japanese dialects versions................


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/4/2013 8:52:04 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:

I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/4/2013 9:20:44 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:

I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/4/2013 9:41:12 AM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:

I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/4/2013 10:04:21 AM 
JSF wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:

I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?


I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.


^^^^^^^ all this is true....plus being in your own bed ...or at least in a bed on the same campus, eating in your dining hall and having your daily routine not revolving around the dry heat in a hotel room, hours of waiting between shoot around, stiffness fromthe bus ride and packing/unpacking the X box.


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  Message Not Read  RE: UMass Coach Kellogg's ultimate coach speak about EMU
   Posted: 12/4/2013 11:02:45 AM 
JSF wrote:
Andrew Ruck wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
JSF wrote:

I've talked to a decent number of coaches and players who find it harder to play in an empty, quiet gym than a packed, roaring arena.

It's interesting that some people say that, but I wonder if there are statistics to show it to be true? Are there different levels of home court advantage for arenas of various capacities and various attendances?



I believe it has been studied at greath length, with the conclusion being the atmosphere means next to nothing.  Home court advantage has the same effect in the smallest and/or least exciting conferences as it does in the high energy conferences.  It is more about the comforts of home and familarity than it is the fan atmosphere.


And the referee advantage. Of course, whether or not atmosphere actually makes a difference doesn't stop players and coaches from believing it does.

I believe a strong case could be made that the perceptions of players and coaches makes a difference when measuring beyond an individual event.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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