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Danny's Knee
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that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 9:30:34 AM

4 in a row baby !!!!

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 11:57:58 AM

Which is actually bad for us.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 12:02:38 PM

We're talking about Central Michigan right?

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 1:00:34 PM

Six in a row if you combine the two major sports.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 1:37:23 PM

Shortly after we played at tOSU I mentioned I wasn't sure how good they were. I was informed on here that they are a top 5 team in the country. Still think so?

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 2:15:59 PM

Mostly I came away disappointed we didn't start better and couldn't pull off the upset, but also was glad we didn't get blown out and felt better about our chances for a good season. I wasn't sure after the game if either team was good, though.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 3:03:50 PM

OUVan wrote:

Which is actually bad for us.

The MAC is a 1-bid league. It has been since 1998, and this year wasn't going to break that streak. OSU's ranking has very little bearing on Ohio's season. Either the Cats win it all March 15th in Cleveland, or we watch them in the NIT, CBI, CIT, etc the next week.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 3:11:18 PM

bobcat695 wrote:

OUVan wrote:

Which is actually bad for us.

Disagree. I think the MAC is still in the hunt to be a 2-bid league this year.

Ohio is still in the hunt for an at-large if we don't win Cleveland. If Ohio wins 2 games this week, we will be 15-4 very close to a top 50 RPI.

We finish 27-4 with a RPI around 25 I don't think we need to win in Cleveland.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 3:23:10 PM

The Optimist wrote:

bobcat695 wrote:

OUVan wrote:

Which is actually bad for us.

Disagree. I think the MAC is still in the hunt to be a 2-bid league this year.

Ohio is still in the hunt for an at-large if we don't win Cleveland. If Ohio wins 2 games this week, we will be 15-4 very close to a top 50 RPI.

We finish 27-4 with a RPI around 25 I don't think we need to win in Cleveland.

27-4

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 3:36:24 PM

And the illini are 0-4 their last 4 games. Shows that things can change pretty fast

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Posted: 1/21/2014 3:55:19 PM

I don't think we will finish 27-4.. I don't think we need to. We go 26-5, 25-6, 24-7 and we still might be in business even if we don't win in Cleveland. The MAC already has 2 top 50 RPI teams not named Ohio. That isn't something we have seen a lot at this point in the season since 1998. If the RPI numbers stay up, this year may very well be different for the MAC.
Some very good records are still in the cards.. That means Ohio State's loses aren't meaningless for us. Our RPI rank still matters this year.

Last Edited: 1/21/2014 3:57:43 PM by The Optimist

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Posted: 1/21/2014 5:36:00 PM

Conferences don't get bids. Teams get bids. The idea that the MAC is a "one-bid league" is defeatist.

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Posted: 1/21/2014 6:22:07 PM

JSF wrote:

Conferences don't get bids. Teams get bids. The idea that the MAC is a "one-bid league" is defeatist.

I tend to agree with you, but the company you keep sometimes has an impact on committees picking teams. The fact is, until something happens, the MAC has been a one bid league. It certainly doesn't have to remain one however.

Last Edited: 1/22/2014 8:03:13 AM by colobobcat66

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Posted: 1/21/2014 7:33:12 PM

Had Akron not lost those two after their PG got arrested last year and we managed to beat them in the final the MAC would have had two teams in

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Posted: 1/21/2014 7:51:46 PM

The Optimist wrote:

Ohio is still in the hunt for an at-large if we don't win Cleveland. If Ohio wins 2 games this week, we will be 15-4 very close to a top 50 RPI.

Believeland is either located in Washington or Colorado, or you're breaking the law.

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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:01:03 PM

Ozcat wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

Ohio is still in the hunt for an at-large if we don't win Cleveland. If Ohio wins 2 games this week, we will be 15-4 very close to a top 50 RPI.

Believeland is either located in Washington or Colorado, or you're breaking the law.

Those Believeland teams from Washington and Colorado are going to the "Super BOWL".

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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:02:32 PM

We have this discussion every year. I understand conferences don't get a certain number of bids, but I also stand by the facts. 1998 was the last year two teams from the MAC got in.

There might be a few decent teams in the MAC, but I can't circle one single win by any team that jumps out as a resume builder to impress the committee. Maybe Ohio's wins against Northern Iowa or Richmond, but that is still a stretch to garner an at large bid.

I am generally positive, but there is virtually no way Toledo or Ohio get in without winning the MAC Tournament. No matter how much we argue about it, the answer will not be known until March. My guess is that it will be just like the past 16 seasons and it's win or go home (or to the CBI).

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 8:48:08 PM

bobcat695 wrote:

I am generally positive, but there is virtually no way Toledo or Ohio get in without winning the MAC Tournament.

Unless you are saying that the league is too balanced and neither team will distance themselves then that's just flat out wrong. It may be unlikely but either could be at large worthy with a huge run in conference play, especially Toledo. The Rockets currently have a 15-2 record with 14 regular season games to go. If they end up with a 15-3 conference record and then lose in the finals of the MAC tourney that would leave them with a 28-5 record. Their RPI would be in great shape.

The league has had several years where it could have had multiple bids since the last time if the league champion had just lost in the tournament. But those teams won the tournament and hence no extra bid. Too many people confuse multiple bids to mean two or more teams that have at large worthy resumes. All you need is one.

Do I think either will earn an at large? No, but it's not impossible. But either team would need to really crush down the stretch and there are too many good teams in the league this year to make it likely.

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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:49:23 PM

There's talk about MWC being only a one-bid league this year, which would open two or three slots from previous years. Still, the MAC will need two teams in the 1-50 RPI. ESPN has EMU at 48 and Toledo at 39; we're at 73 (3rd among MAC teams).

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 9:03:39 PM

bobcat695 wrote:

Stop bringing the reality. It annoys people here.

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Posted: 1/21/2014 9:09:26 PM

Forget mid-season RPI talk. Name one quality win by anyone in the MAC. This is the time of year where the RPI shift moves downward for the MAC. Nobody won anything significant during the non conference stretch, therefore most of the conference wins aren't worth anything either because the conference is relatively weak. We might think Akron is good, but 7-10 South Carolina wasn't impressed either time they played them. Is Toledo's close loss to Kansas really what we are using to say they're good? Toledo played nobody worth a darn before Kansas, then they lost to WMU. EMU hasn't beaten anyone either. They got blown out by Kentucky, Duke and Syracuse before losing to Buffalo.

I wish the MAC received more bids, but I can't argue for anyone right now. The selection committee will ask these same questions.

Last Edited: 1/21/2014 9:30:37 PM by bobcat695

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 9:13:02 PM

BobcatCrew wrote:

Ozcat wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

Ohio is still in the hunt for an at-large if we don't win Cleveland. If Ohio wins 2 games this week, we will be 15-4 very close to a top 50 RPI.

Believeland is either located in Washington or Colorado, or you're breaking the law.

Those Believeland teams from Washington and Colorado are going to the "Super BOWL".

In that case, I'm picking the Broncos because the game will start at 4:20 Mountain time haha!

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 9:14:23 PM

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Posted: 1/21/2014 9:33:30 PM

Our RPI and SOS matter for multiple reasons. If we do win the MAC it will determine our seeding. If we don't, it might be the difference between making the NIT and the CBI. Some people will act like if it's not the NCAA it doesn't matter, but the NIT is still on the ESPN family of networks so there are definite advantages to playing in it.

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RE: that team up north ....

Posted: 1/21/2014 10:04:22 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

And the illini are 0-4 their last 4 games. Shows that things can change pretty fast

Speaking of which, I saw on Twitter John Groce had a certain Mr. Freeman working with the Illini on their perimeter shooting at practice. Pretty cool.

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