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Jeff McKinney
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Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 12:30:01 PM

Here's a question: I'm guessing that a program that is installing a motion offense will look more ragged early in the season than a team that uses more set plays. I'm guessing that the motion offense depends on the players being used to playing with each other. Plus, the cutting and decisions may be a half step slow early.

That's why I think we will get better offensively steadily.

Any thoughts?

GoCats105
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RE: Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 1:01:20 PM

Isn't the motion offense one of the most basic offenses you can run though? My feeling is all of these guys have probably been exposed to certain types of motion offenses over the course of their careers. And maybe Saul runs it differently than some other coaches, but motion offenses usually also include set plays as well. Not to the degree of some others, but you can still have set play off of the motion offense.

Now, getting used to everyone else on the court and how they move, that's a totally different ball game. That takes time. The motion offense is all about continuously moving (obviously), cutting without the ball, screening, back-screening, and generally wearing down the opponent until they make a mistake. Knowing which guys are gonna be where and anticipating which move they are going to make is going to take some time to develop. It's kind of like a QB and WR getting their timing on routes down.

Most of us have seen Wisconsin play. It's like watching paint dry. But once the opponent makes one wrong mistake the flood gates open because you can easily exploit it. I think, just my opinion, that it relies heavily on BBIQ and less on actual talent. If you've got the talent, that's great. It will make the offense even better.

Last Edited: 11/10/2014 1:28:23 PM by GoCats105

DelBobcat
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RE: Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 1:18:56 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Isn't the motion offense one of the most basic offenses you can run though? My feeling is all of these guys have probably been exposed to certain types of motion offenses over the course of their careers. And maybe Saul runs it differently than some other coaches, but motion offenses usually also include set plays as well. Not to the degree of some others, but you can still have set play off of the motion offense.

Now, getting used to everyone else on the court and how they move, that's a totally different ball game. That takes time. The motion offense is all about continuously moving (obviously), cutting without the ball, screening, back-screening, and generally wearing down the opponent until they make a mistake. Knowing which guys are gonna be wear and anticipating which move they are going to make is going to take some time to develop. It's kind of like a QB and WR getting their timing on routes down.

Most of us have seen Wisconsin play. It's like watching paint dry. But once the opponent makes one wrong mistake the flood gates open because you can easily exploit it. I think, just my opinion, that it relies heavily on BBIQ and less on actual talent. If you've got the talent, that's great. It will make the offense even better.

Yep, back in my high school days we ran several set plays from motion. Plus, as also mentioned, all of these guys will have some exposure to motion at some point in their playing lives. I feel like they'll get in the groove with it pretty quickly.

BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012

Jeff McKinney
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RE: Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 1:22:13 PM

Saul said that he has installed some set plays to make sure Mo gets the ball enough.

Even being a half step slow in making decisions re cutting and screens can make a huge difference. Things will get better.

OUVan
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RE: Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 2:01:04 PM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

I know this is at a much lower level but my son's AAU team runs a motion offense and has done so successfully for a couple of years. After two years with the same roster they added two new players this year and even though they are very skilled the offense has been a mess. It's a simple offense but the timing is critical.

And it's the same thing on defense. It takes time to become a unit. I'm actually more worried about the defense than I am about the offense coming together.

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RE: Motion offense development

Posted: 11/10/2014 6:29:45 PM

That was motion offense? We have a long way to go 😳

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