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Much of it is a lack of aggressiveness on D, and it shows when it comes to creating turnovers. In the first 17 games this season, Ohio's opponents have made 177 turnovers, a 10.4 per game avg. To put this in perspective, the average was 17.4 in '11-'12 (the Sweet 16 year) and in '12-'13 (the NIT year). In '13-'14, it was 12.5. Last season it was 10.3, just slightly below this season. Hand-in-hand is a dropoff in steals. In '11-'12 we avged 9.4 per game; in '12-'13 it was 8.9; in '13-'14 it was 6.4; last season it was 5.1 and this year it's only 4.8 -- about half what it was five years ago. In '11-'12 we had five players with 30 or more steals. This season we will likely have no more than two (Setty and Simmons). Don't know if it's Saul Ball, personnel, players getting used to their roles, fear of fouling, or what. But we had our greatest success when the guys were playing tight D. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 1:31:44 PM  One factor regarding steals was DJ and Walt in my opinion. They were really good at pressure D and creating steals. Also, Baltic and Kellogg had theirshare. Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 3,090 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 1:41:57 PM  We didn't start 4 guys like 6'7" or more who were slow afoot back then. Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,876 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 3:42:41 PM  OU_Country wrote: One factor regarding steals was DJ and Walt in my opinion. They were really good at pressure D and creating steals. Also, Baltic and Kellogg had theirshare. It's scheme, too. Double teaming the baseline and the corners was key. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 4:05:22 PM  shabamon wrote: OU_Country wrote: One factor regarding steals was DJ and Walt in my opinion. They were really good at pressure D and creating steals. Also, Baltic and Kellogg had theirshare. It's scheme, too. Double teaming the baseline and the corners was key. That and bigs hedging up top which made it very difficult to penetrate down the middle. Opposing guards had a very tough time getting comfortable. Very rarely did a shooter catch a pass where he wanted to catch it. Christian changed it but we still pressured the ball and played tough D. We just don't seem to do anything right now to make it tough on offenses. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 4:10:02 PM  We need to be more aggressive. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 4:58:27 PM  OUVan wrote: shabamon wrote: OU_Country wrote: One factor regarding steals was DJ and Walt in my opinion. They were really good at pressure D and creating steals. Also, Baltic and Kellogg had theirshare. It's scheme, too. Double teaming the baseline and the corners was key. That and bigs hedging up top which made it very difficult to penetrate down the middle. Opposing guards had a very tough time getting comfortable. Very rarely did a shooter catch a pass where he wanted to catch it. Christian changed it but we still pressured the ball and played tough D. We just don't seem to do anything right now to make it tough on offenses. Good points. Ric Johnson had a lot to do with those good defensive numbers too. Personnel is why I keep circling back to my wonderings about the idea of playing a 2-3 zone. Maybe it wouldn't work, but I'd be curious to see it with this bunch. Back to Top Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     RE: Nonaggressive D    Posted: 1/22/2016 10:18:53 PM  We need more Mike Laster in the rotation. Don't let one day define the rest of your life. 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