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This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,219 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 9:15:45 AM  GPro31 wrote: A team with heart no matter how many turnovers they will prevail. This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... Because the MAC is a one bid league and until that changes, I'd play the best schedule that I could. Check out this 2000 - 2001 schedule - Virginia, Wisconsin, West Virginaia, Arizona State, Pepperdine or this one from 05 -06 - Rhode Island, Cincinnati, Kentucky. Only in the last few years have we starting playing all of these southern teams from average conferences. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 9:17:33 AM  GPro31 wrote: A team with heart no matter how many turnovers they will prevail. This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... I'll give my opinion - and the first is that stating our team doesn't have heart is a very unfair thing to say unless you're at practice, in the locker room, and know the team. Sorry if that's "yelling" at your opinion, but it's the first thing I saw in your post. I wouldn't mind seeing 1-2 more challenges, but I do think sometimes to assume we should just go play everyone on the road is a little silly. I don't think that kind of schedule is good for anyone. For those of us who live close enough buy tickets, we wouldn't be pleased if there were only 3-4 home games before MAC play starts. As for the quality of the schedule, I think the schedule last year, and next year, in terms of "big name" opponents was pretty good to be honest. I'd have like to have seen one more challenge for this team scattered in somewhere this year. And you know what? They were working on it, and it fell through. As for recruiting, I am of the opinion that Saul & staff have done and are doing a fine job. They've brought the following to Athens since their arrival: Jaaron Simmons - the floor general and a top 25 PG in the country by some measures. Kenny Kaminski - 4* recruit transfer from Michigan State. He could have gone a lot of places higher profile than Athens Jordan Dartis - freshman starter who will be one of the top 3-point shooters in school history by the time he graduates. Ryan Taylor - obviously departed, but he started and played well as a frosh here, and is scoring 15ppg at an MVC school. Gavin Block, Doug Taylor, Jason Carter, Rodney Culver -- all show promise for being good players when they get the time on the floor. Gollon, Dozier - still TBD I can't speak to the incoming players, but I'm really, really excited for Zach Butler's arrival. He looks super athletic from the little that has been shared in his recruiting thread. The two incoming bigs both look capable as well, but only time will tell. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 9:20:32 AM  Alan Swank wrote: GPro31 wrote: A team with heart no matter how many turnovers they will prevail. This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... Because the MAC is a one bid league and until that changes, I'd play the best schedule that I could. Check out this 2000 - 2001 schedule - Virginia, Wisconsin, West Virginaia, Arizona State, Pepperdine or this one from 05 -06 - Rhode Island, Cincinnati, Kentucky. Only in the last few years have we starting playing all of these southern teams from average conferences. Those are different times than today, in my opinion, because of two reasons: 1) Ohio Athletics is focused on home games because of ticket sales, and 2) the big conferences are increasingly difficult to schedule with. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,469 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 9:37:06 AM  We're focused on home games because of the conference telling teams to get a certain amount of home games. However, given our attendance in December, we should probably reduce that number a bit and get some buy games on the road. we'll make more money that way anyway. and our attendance average will probably be higher. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 10:10:58 AM  GPro31 wrote: A team with heart no matter how many turnovers they will prevail. This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... Sorry but this makes no sense. Why is Kent's road win over a 6-6 Texas team proof of anything more than our road win over a 7-4 Georgia Tech team? Kent's "heart" led them to losses over bad South Dakota and Oregon State teams. Here is Kent's "heart" breakdown: KenPom Ranking 0-200 1-3 KenPom Ranking 201-300 4-2 Kenpom Ranking 300+ 2-0 Here is our "heartless" breakdown KenPom Ranking 0-200 2-2 KenPom Ranking 201-300 5-1 Kenpom Ranking 300+ 0-0 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/28/2016 10:13:03 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: We're focused on home games because of the conference telling teams to get a certain amount of home games. However, given our attendance in December, we should probably reduce that number a bit and get some buy games on the road. we'll make more money that way anyway. and our attendance average will probably be higher. You make really good points. I'd forgotten the conference mandate as a factor. To me, at least one of the the last 2-3 non-conf games of December could be great opportunities to play a buy game. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,364 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/29/2016 1:33:28 PM  After Horizon was snubbed by the selection committee, the new scheduling philosophy at Oakland is to play a couple "P"5 games and rely on lots of wins to make an impression. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-co... / We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,555 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/29/2016 7:28:19 PM  Alan Swank wrote: GPro31 wrote: A team with heart no matter how many turnovers they will prevail. This always isn't the case but going with the trend of our team... We may have the talent, but not the heart. I still believe our out of conference schedule is too weak. Play away... It can't hurt recruiting. On my high school team I had four D1 players on my team. One went to Toledo based on the fact they played at Duke freshman year over BG or Eastern. A CSU buddy saying he'd play for Gary with games against big time teams rather than go to a mid major playing small time teams in small time towns...we need to schedule better out of conference. What all do you think of our out of conference schedule and recruiting? I want opinions not people yelling at my opinion (and opinion of my buddies) if we play out of conference maybe it pulls us together for conference play. Have pride in what you do... Because the MAC is a one bid league and until that changes, I'd play the best schedule that I could. Check out this 2000 - 2001 schedule - Virginia, Wisconsin, West Virginaia, Arizona State, Pepperdine or this one from 05 -06 - Rhode Island, Cincinnati, Kentucky. Only in the last few years have we starting playing all of these southern teams from average conferences. The game at WKU (c-USA) wouldn't have been such a bad idea except for getting screwed by the refs. What conference were they from anyway? Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,734 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/30/2016 2:19:33 PM  You're preaching to the choir! Play the best you can. Every Year. Lather-rinse-repeat. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/30/2016 5:55:27 PM  I agree our schedule out of conference is overall pretty ho-hum. While I do like that were up sizing the level of mid majors programs we play (SHSU, WKU, CSU, Iona)...ot would be nice to have a few more P5 games along with GT. I've never understood why we don't do more home and homes with some traditionally good mid-majors like WKU. Belmont, Murray St, Morehead St, EKU, VCU, Richmond, Mason come to mind. Rather theyd go up a notch even if it's not home and home with some teams like... Pitt, WVU, Geo Wash, UD, Xavier, UK, UofL, UT, UVa, VaTech, Maryland, Gtown, Temple, URI, Providence... A few of those type games each year would prepare us much better than Urbana. We're almost there from a schedule standpoint...was just disappointed to not see it pumped considering what we thought this team was. Maybe that was a good thing it wasnt....or maybe Saul knew something we didnt. Would like to go back and see how Saul scheduled at NDSU...a place a lot harder to get to than Athens I imagine. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,926 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/31/2016 10:55:35 AM  bshot44 wrote: Would like to go back and see how Saul scheduled at NDSU...a place a lot harder to get to than Athens I imagine. I was curious so I went back and looked at the home non-conf schedule for NDSU under Saul. 2014: Southern Miss, Delaware, Towson, 3 Non D1 schools 2013: Nebraska-Omaha, North Dakota, Morehead State, 2 Non D1 Schools 2012: Green Bay, Nebraska-Omaha, Fresno State, 1 Non D1 School, Western Mich (Bracketbuster) 2011: North Dakota, UC-Davis, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2010: Idaho, Green Bay, Milwaukee, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2009: Oral Roberts, Northern Arizona, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2008: North Carolina Central, Colorado State, 2 Non D-1 Schools Now lets look at his 3 years here: 2017: Southern, Sam Houston St, Tennessee Tech, Bryant, Mlwaukee, Cleveland St, 1 Non D-1 School 2016: Florida Gulf Coast, Tennessee St, Marshall, Jackson St, Arkansas PB, UC Riverside, 1 Non D-1 School 2015: App State, Arkansas PB, Belmont, St Bonaventure, UNC Wilmington, 0 Non D-1 Schools We get a lot more home games than Saul ever got at NDSU. 2015 was by far our toughest and 2017 is by far the weakest. I hope we can get back to a 2015 type schedule, but even this year was better than anything he got at NDSU. And note that Tim Miles coached at NDSU before Saul and in his first year at Colorado St agreed to play at NDSU. (Maybe it was in his contract?) Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,401 Status: Offline     RE: Kent over Texas and out of conference schedule    Posted: 12/31/2016 3:42:03 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: bshot44 wrote: Would like to go back and see how Saul scheduled at NDSU...a place a lot harder to get to than Athens I imagine. I was curious so I went back and looked at the home non-conf schedule for NDSU under Saul. 2014: Southern Miss, Delaware, Towson, 3 Non D1 schools 2013: Nebraska-Omaha, North Dakota, Morehead State, 2 Non D1 Schools 2012: Green Bay, Nebraska-Omaha, Fresno State, 1 Non D1 School, Western Mich (Bracketbuster) 2011: North Dakota, UC-Davis, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2010: Idaho, Green Bay, Milwaukee, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2009: Oral Roberts, Northern Arizona, 2 Non D-1 Schools 2008: North Carolina Central, Colorado State, 2 Non D-1 Schools Now lets look at his 3 years here: 2017: Southern, Sam Houston St, Tennessee Tech, Bryant, Mlwaukee, Cleveland St, 1 Non D-1 School 2016: Florida Gulf Coast, Tennessee St, Marshall, Jackson St, Arkansas PB, UC Riverside, 1 Non D-1 School 2015: App State, Arkansas PB, Belmont, St Bonaventure, UNC Wilmington, 0 Non D-1 Schools We get a lot more home games than Saul ever got at NDSU. 2015 was by far our toughest and 2017 is by far the weakest. I hope we can get back to a 2015 type schedule, but even this year was better than anything he got at NDSU. And note that Tim Miles coached at NDSU before Saul and in his first year at Colorado St agreed to play at NDSU. (Maybe it was in his contract?) 2014 = 3 non DI schools, most years 2 or more??? Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 13  of 13 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 244 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 243 Guests 1 Registered User:   Victory There are no other users looking at this page.

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