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bobcat 2000
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make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/13/2017 6:20:39 PM

ou needs to play stronger teams in non conf. teams like duke Kentucky Indiana Michigan state Kansas and Virginia. saul can then get advice from those teams coaches about how to develop his players better. if coach k or cal or izzo had doug taylor he would be a 1st round nba prospect

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/13/2017 6:35:17 PM

bobcat 2000 wrote:

Another day, another treasure from this poster.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/13/2017 6:40:18 PM

I hate to even respond and encourage more of this, but I'm kinda interested in what prompts a person to start posting such nonsense after 11 years of being registered on the site. Has Ohio sports finally pushed you past a breaking point or something?

Last Edited: 2/13/2017 7:14:49 PM by BuddyLee

OU_Country
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/13/2017 6:59:49 PM

BuddyLee wrote:

I hate to even respond and encourage more of this, but I'm kinda interested in what promps a person to start posting such nonsense after 11 years of being registered on the site. Has Ohio sports finally pushed you past a breaking point or something?

+1.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/13/2017 8:12:28 PM

Maybe this poster has his sarcasm device functioning....

Ohio69
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/14/2017 8:19:37 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Maybe this poster has his sarcasm device functioning....

Suckers!

Last Edited: 2/14/2017 8:19:53 AM by Ohio69

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

OUVan
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/14/2017 11:26:51 AM

My hobbies are fast cars and fast women because uh.. that�s why my.. the guys in my car club call me "The Cruiser�...I joined the Army because my father and brother were in the Army. I figured I'd join before I got drafted.

Son, there ain't no draft no more.

There was one?

C Money
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/14/2017 12:02:12 PM

#MakeOhioBasketballGreatAgain

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/14/2017 12:03:38 PM

C Money wrote:

#MakeOhioBasketballGreatAgain

If only there were a vomit emoji I could put in here.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/14/2017 12:30:41 PM

C Money wrote:

#MakeOhioBasketballGreatAgain

Seriously right. Return of the Bigmanz with three guys in the offense standing around watching. To the OP from what Ive seen Saul does a good job of tapping into the potential of players. Once in a while you will get an Ivo or KK enigma situation. Want to recruit NBA first rounders? Get the welcome center built. Need elite facilites for elite players.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/15/2017 12:49:31 AM

bobcat 2000 wrote:

Only if we make them home and home contracts.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/15/2017 8:39:43 AM

bobcat 2000 wrote:

Dude is trying to be Chucky Chuckles and failing miserably. Time for you to head back to the Zippy message board.

Last Edited: 2/15/2017 8:40:39 AM by FearLeon

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/15/2017 4:21:29 PM

I completely agree with playing a better non-conference schedule. I've said it many times before and I'll say it again. Play them on the road if we have to. I think a minimum of three power 5 games on the road. We'll lose most of them, but you can't win if you don't play them. We can't elevate the program until we do this. Let that sink in.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/15/2017 5:33:19 PM

bobcat 2000 wrote:

+1 I don't know about getting advice, but he would get better recruits. He does need to learn how to develop players better. KK, Taylor, Wadley, Harley, Block etc. There is not a great progression. Dartis can become special and so can Carter, but coaches need toknow how to expand their games.FACTS not emotions

Last Edited: 2/15/2017 5:36:49 PM by allen

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/15/2017 5:57:04 PM

Here is my .02 on the recent OOC schedule.

Road game at Marshall. Nothing really to be gained from it.

>>Road game at Georgia Tech. Potentially huge value. Tons of h.s.stud athletes in the Atlanta area. Could have been a good chance to visit potential recruits except that too many schollies already taken up by end of the bench scrubs.<<

Game at Iona. Was not a blip on the radar screen of NY sports. Not much value.

At WKU. Not much value in it. The nearest real media was Nashville who was busy covering Vandy and UT going to bowl games, the Titans trying to nail down an NFL playoff spot, the Preds trying to get in the NHL playoff hunt, etc. As a matter of fact the home cooking refs stole what should have been a decent win. So that didn't even happen. The Bobcats could have driven 90 miles more and played MTSU who beat Michigan State in the NCAA tourney last season.

Home games vs. Southern, Sam Houston, etc. A way to get some guys feet wet and build some chemistry while getting wins to boost confidence.

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Who to play OOC that could have benefits for publicity, recruiting?

DePaul (Chicago)... obviously.

University of Memphis (OKC Thunder guard Cameron Payne went to Murray State...Golden State Warriors guard Ian Clark went to Belmont...yes, mid-majors get players out of Memphis who end up in the NBA)

Tulane and/or LSU (Louisiana)... and by extension after Hurricane Katrina, Rice and/or Houston (Houston). Louisiana has been full of great athletes forever and many families did move to Houston during and after Katrina, increasing the already large number of athletes in Houston. LSU might not agree to a home & home but the others might. And the jocks at Tulane and Rice can all read and write... not a bunch of semi-pro juco transfers.

Schools in the DC/Baltimore area. Benefit like Chicago. But try to stay away from the really obscure schools.

St. Johns and Villanova. But not games vs small schools in NYC/Philly that will be ignored by the media and lost in the shuffle.

OU_Country
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 10:20:18 AM

greencat wrote:

My $0.03 to go with your two cents. Used to be that nickel meant something! ;)

*You're thinking media attention in much of this post. Coaching staff most likely is not thinking in that way. Whether they should be, or not, I can't say. They're thinking about decent road games and getting in the mandated home games that the MAC and maybe the University want. I'd agree with anyone that says we could ditch one or two home games against the scrubs of the world to play a road game at a bigger conference school. Not Carolina, Villanova, or Kansas, mind you, but the middle third to bottom third of those conferences.

EDIT: Like others, I think the mandated home game thing is silly. More value could be had in 1-2 fewer home games being turned into winnable quality opponent road games. 2017-18 with the tournament in Charleston is the exception to this rule, in my opinion.

*WKU/Iona will be great games to continue. WKU could be a tournament team next year and is a rising program. It was a bad loss this year, but it's not a bad game IMO.

*Marshall, despite your opinion, is a series that I think should be continued annually until the end of time. It's a local rivalry that matters, and they are getting better.

*I like the idea of Depaul, and Memphis. Not Nova - we'd get run by 30+ and it would just be a buy game loss.

*If home and home were possible with Tulane, Houston, Rice - I'm all for it. I'm against a one-off road game at any of them.

*Before we complain about scheduling, consider that next year's schedule is going to be a lot bigger and better than this year's: Three games in Charleston against solid opponents, home games against Marshall, Iona, WKU. That makes up roughly half of the schedule before MAC play.

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Last Edited: 2/16/2017 10:23:29 AM by OU_Country

OUVan
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 11:15:05 AM

Play the big boys on neutral courts if you have to. The only way I'm playing in their place without a return game is if it's the hometown of one of my seniors and you want them to play in front of family and friends. If you want to reward the big boys for treating us as second class citizens play them only on their terms.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 11:46:38 AM

allen wrote:

bobcat 2000 wrote:

What are you talking about?

OU_Country
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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 11:49:44 AM

OUVan wrote:

I don't disagree with this, other than to strategically schedule 1-2 of them when you have the team built to beat them on their home floor. Related to that, I'll have to look at how Gonzaga built their schedule as they became higher profile. I feel like they used to have the "anytime, anywhere" approach. Of course, they also have the finances to play buy games of a higher level at home. (the joys of college football)

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:02:24 PM

To put a different twist on this, re-focus away OOC games where pockets of our alumni reside. Cincinnati is a miss in my book. Oxford is nearby, but a two lane drive. Replace WKU with NKU. Pittsburgh(3 options), DC/Baltimore(multiple schools) Philly(6+ schools/Palestra), NYC/Northern NJ and Chicago. Hit the alumni base hard(mailings, email and phone blitzes) with an event. And personal contact to the broadcast grads who are working TV in all of these markets to get some airplay.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:05:23 PM

MedinaCat wrote:

Yes to all this.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:20:35 PM

OU_Country wrote:

I'll have to look at how Gonzaga built their schedule as they became higher profile. I feel like they used to have the "anytime, anywhere" approach. Of course, they also have the finances to play buy games of a higher level at home. (the joys of college football)

Gonzaga developed the anytime, anywhere philosophy when they decided to make a serious financial commitment to the program. They played tough road games but they also had two or three home games a year against the big boys. I'm fully onboard traveling to the big boys as long as we get some to come to Athens as well. Unfortunately, we aren't going to make that financially commitment. I would love for someone to point to me a program that has taken it to the next level by playing the big boys only on the road.

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:21:58 PM

if tod kowalczyk had doug taylor he would have dui

bobcat 2000 wrote:

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:32:09 PM

bobcat 2001 wrote:

if tod kowalczyk had doug taylor he would have dui

bobcat 2000 wrote:

What exactly does this have to do with scheduling?

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RE: make the non conference schedule tougher

Posted: 2/16/2017 12:41:53 PM

bobcat 2001 wrote:

if tod kowalczyk had doug taylor he would have dui

bobcat 2000 wrote:

Replying to self with new name? Don't tip Monroe off to this trick.

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