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Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/2/2017 4:16:54 PM  I read somewhere that the MVC was looking to add two schools to replace Wichita State. Valpo and Murray State perhaps? Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/2/2017 5:00:38 PM  Long discussion on JMV's show on 1070 the fan with Greg Rakestraw and JMV about Valpo. Not sure where to look for the podcast but it may be worth a listen when it gets posted. Rake seems pretty astute when it comes to the Horizon and Valpo never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/3/2017 2:33:39 PM  Valpo already fits in their existing footprint and would they not be rejoining Loyola as a conference mate? Gives them a tighter cluster of states and keeps travel times down. Kind of crazy to think that Evansville will be one of the further away teams as Chicago, Terre Haute, Peoria and Bloomington are 3 hours or less. Don't realize how long Indiana is but the travel time from Evansville to Valpo is only about 30 minutes less than it is from Des Moines! Ohio-The State University Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/3/2017 2:58:27 PM  Valpo seems like a perfect fit. Wondering if Belmont might be a good addition as well. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/3/2017 3:44:33 PM  OUcats82 wrote: Valpo already fits in their existing footprint and would they not be rejoining Loyola as a conference mate? Gives them a tighter cluster of states and keeps travel times down. Kind of crazy to think that Evansville will be one of the further away teams as Chicago, Terre Haute, Peoria and Bloomington are 3 hours or less. Don't realize how long Indiana is but the travel time from Evansville to Valpo is only about 30 minutes less than it is from Des Moines! Only made it down to Evansville once in 5 decades and that was because of hoops. Before I69 you did not have much choice to get there. Roads seemed to end at Bloomington and that corner (the Pocket City) seemed to have more ties to Cincy and St Louis than Indy. See a lot more Cards fans from down there than us Reds fans would like. Highway 41 was a major trek up from Memphis/Nashville and the south during the war (.... rolling down HWY 41) and the highway many bluesmen took to Chicago before Interstates, passenger train decline, cessation of intercity busses and hitchiking laws. The point is well taken that many conferences are getting larger while this one is becoming more compact. Certainly the footprint is smaller than the Horizon seems to be more like the Old Big Ten prior to PennSt and the more recent additions. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/3/2017 4:13:17 PM  OUVan wrote: Valpo seems like a perfect fit. Wondering if Belmont might be a good addition as well. I thought Belmont would be a great fit for the MVC as well. Good TV Market, and what seems like a natural fit in the same way Valpo is. It would be a fun conference to follow adding those two schools, that's for sure. Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 660 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/3/2017 9:15:04 PM  I don't think Belmont would the OVC if the Valley offered. They like where they are and like being a "big fish" in the small pond that is the OVC. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,398 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/4/2017 8:49:50 AM  bornacatfan wrote: OUcats82 wrote: Valpo already fits in their existing footprint and would they not be rejoining Loyola as a conference mate? Gives them a tighter cluster of states and keeps travel times down. Kind of crazy to think that Evansville will be one of the further away teams as Chicago, Terre Haute, Peoria and Bloomington are 3 hours or less. Don't realize how long Indiana is but the travel time from Evansville to Valpo is only about 30 minutes less than it is from Des Moines! Only made it down to Evansville once in 5 decades and that was because of hoops. Before I69 you did not have much choice to get there. Roads seemed to end at Bloomington and that corner (the Pocket City) seemed to have more ties to Cincy and St Louis than Indy. See a lot more Cards fans from down there than us Reds fans would like. Highway 41 was a major trek up from Memphis/Nashville and the south during the war (.... rolling down HWY 41) and the highway many bluesmen took to Chicago before Interstates, passenger train decline, cessation of intercity busses and hitchiking laws. The point is well taken that many conferences are getting larger while this one is becoming more compact. Certainly the footprint is smaller than the Horizon seems to be more like the Old Big Ten prior to PennSt and the more recent additions. I enjoy your stories of old road trips. I've taken HWY 41 once, and I must say, what an enjoyable drive through parts of Americana. One day I hope to drive what's left of Rte 66, having done parts of it, I'm thirsting to do the entire thing. Back to Top Brian Smith (No, not that one) General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 3,016 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/4/2017 9:55:41 AM  I've paid attention to Valpo a lot more the last few years because the wife went to law school there — so we catch some mid-week games on the ESPN app — and I think this is a good move for them. They fit in that conference quite nicely with Evansville and Indiana State in the MVC. Last Edited: 5/4/2017 9:56:49 AM by Brian Smith (No, not that one) Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,720 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/4/2017 12:56:49 PM  OUVan wrote: Valpo seems like a perfect fit. Wondering if Belmont might be a good addition as well. Didn't the MVC say they were sticking with 10 after adding Valpo? Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/4/2017 1:45:26 PM  Ted Thompson wrote: OUVan wrote: Valpo seems like a perfect fit. Wondering if Belmont might be a good addition as well. Didn't the MVC say they were sticking with 10 after adding Valpo? I'm sure that is actually true. 10 is the perfect number for a basketball conference in my opinion. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/5/2017 7:49:46 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: \ I enjoy your stories of old road trips. I've taken HWY 41 once, and I must say, what an enjoyable drive through parts of Americana. One day I hope to drive what's left of Rte 66, having done parts of it, I'm thirsting to do the entire thing. We were on 66 south of Joliet on the motorcycles a couple of years back...what used to be a 4 lane now travels in the 2 northbound lanes in places and some have a clear view of I55 to the west. Through the southwest places like New Mexico it is I40 or the frontage road, I rode portions on a bicycle as I made my way from San Diego to Chicago one summer. ...all along it though you can find old restaurants, hotels and places that try to preserve it. No doubt it is still one of the most remembered and celebrated roads in history. My next goal is to leave INdiana and go to Denver going out on US40 (the old National Road) and coming back US 36. You might like to read a book by William Least Heat Moon called Blue Highways. A teacher who clapped out an old van and took a lap of America never touching an Interstate. Last Edited: 5/5/2017 7:50:29 AM by bornacatfan never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/5/2017 10:04:16 AM  bornacatfan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: \ I enjoy your stories of old road trips. I've taken HWY 41 once, and I must say, what an enjoyable drive through parts of Americana. One day I hope to drive what's left of Rte 66, having done parts of it, I'm thirsting to do the entire thing. We were on 66 south of Joliet on the motorcycles a couple of years back...what used to be a 4 lane now travels in the 2 northbound lanes in places and some have a clear view of I55 to the west. Through the southwest places like New Mexico it is I40 or the frontage road, I rode portions on a bicycle as I made my way from San Diego to Chicago one summer. ...all along it though you can find old restaurants, hotels and places that try to preserve it. No doubt it is still one of the most remembered and celebrated roads in history. My next goal is to leave INdiana and go to Denver going out on US40 (the old National Road) and coming back US 36. You might like to read a book by William Least Heat Moon called Blue Highways. A teacher who clapped out an old van and took a lap of America never touching an Interstate. This makes me think of all the weekend backroads road trips I want to take in my truck. Not sure I have faith it would make it all the way to Colorado though. Right now, I just want to make it to Athens and back. ;) https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4194/34336933461_22a13b12e... https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4163/34307510352_8e4255f99... Last Edited: 5/5/2017 10:06:58 AM by OU_Country Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,881 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/5/2017 11:07:40 AM  bornacatfan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: \ I enjoy your stories of old road trips. I've taken HWY 41 once, and I must say, what an enjoyable drive through parts of Americana. One day I hope to drive what's left of Rte 66, having done parts of it, I'm thirsting to do the entire thing. We were on 66 south of Joliet on the motorcycles a couple of years back...what used to be a 4 lane now travels in the 2 northbound lanes in places and some have a clear view of I55 to the west. Through the southwest places like New Mexico it is I40 or the frontage road, I rode portions on a bicycle as I made my way from San Diego to Chicago one summer. ...all along it though you can find old restaurants, hotels and places that try to preserve it. No doubt it is still one of the most remembered and celebrated roads in history. My next goal is to leave INdiana and go to Denver going out on US40 (the old National Road) and coming back US 36. You might like to read a book by William Least Heat Moon called Blue Highways. A teacher who clapped out an old van and took a lap of America never touching an Interstate. This is a neat (really coffee table) book about a bicyclist who rode from coast to coast on the Lincoln Highway. Enjoyed his pages about some stops in Ohio, incluing Massillon. Some great photographs (about 250!) as well. https://www.amazon.com/All-Way-Lincoln-Bicycle-Odyssey/dp... Ohio-The State University Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/5/2017 9:01:35 PM  OU_Country wrote: This makes me think of all the weekend backroads road trips I want to take in my truck. Not sure I have faith it would make it all the way to Colorado though. Right now, I just want to make it to Athens and back. ;) https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4194/34336933461_22a13b12e... https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4163/34307510352_8e4255f99... That is cool...not much of a Ford guy but rebuilding it and getting it road worthy would be cool ...my favorite road books Blue Highways is tops but Travels With Charlie comes to mind as I look at your truck. Jack Kerouac's toilet paper manuscript and a few others I have read ....though Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maint. has been a tome to slog through for me. I like the truck. Bed in the back and rubbermaid totes would do me fine. I like the Lincoln Highway book mentioned as I have been on a bunch of it ....going out to Robert Morris, NIUm a bunvh of it around Iowa and Ames and even a trek through Carson City after a wrong turn with my 3rd son navigatin out of Tahoe. One of my favorite sections is on 50 going to Tahoe from my bros house in Sacto AMerica is awesome. So much to see and do when you get off the interstate. Like a season in basketball the journey is the best part. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/6/2017 8:26:42 AM  Thanks for the comments on the beast. It's definitely been work. Still lots to go, but it rolls down the road. Back on topic: http://www.valleyhoopsinsider.com/clear-choices-for-the-m... / Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 660 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/9/2017 4:19:05 PM  The Valley announced today that the invite goes to Valpo. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/9/2017 4:46:53 PM  ou79 wrote: The Valley announced today that the invite goes to Valpo. I wonder who the Horizon League brings in now? Someone from the Summit League? The number of teams willing to make the move can't be very large. Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 660 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Horizon League    Posted: 5/10/2017 8:10:09 AM  I do not think any of the Dakota schools would go even if invited. Maybe IUPUI or IPFW look because the Horizon is close to them, but I am not sure any Summit team would go. However, what if the Summit offers Oakland to come back to the Summit? 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