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They live stream every single varsity sport home game they have except for Cross Country (for obvious reasons). Most have student announcers to go along with the live stream video. My question is why the heck can't we do that? We've got one of the best radio/TV programs in the country and I can't believe we can't make a class out of this area. My roommates were all R-TV guys and they were driving all over SE Ohio doing high school football and basketball games on the radio. I can't believe it would be hard to find students who wouldn't love the experience as on-air personnel, production and cameramen. I'd also take it a step further and have Marketing majors take a class where they come up with ways to promote our sports. Now I'm sure some of you who are a lot smarter than I will come forth and tell me why we can't do that. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,753 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 4:35:42 PM  We don't do it 'cause we don't want to do it. Now, why we don't want to do it, I have no idea. We should, IMHO. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,397 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 4:41:39 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: We don't do it 'cause we don't want to do it. Now, why we don't want to do it, I have no idea. We should, IMHO. Well, that would mean the academic side would need to embrace the athletics side. Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 5:02:48 PM  OUVan wrote: Okay, I've thought this for a while but I'm finally going to air my gripe. My son just started school at a D3 college. They live stream every single varsity sport home game they have except for Cross Country (for obvious reasons). Most have student announcers to go along with the live stream video. My question is why the heck can't we do that? We've got one of the best radio/TV programs in the country and I can't believe we can't make a class out of this area. My roommates were all R-TV guys and they were driving all over SE Ohio doing high school football and basketball games on the radio. I can't believe it would be hard to find students who wouldn't love the experience as on-air personnel, production and cameramen. I'd also take it a step further and have Marketing majors take a class where they come up with ways to promote our sports. Now I'm sure some of you who are a lot smarter than I will come forth and tell me why we can't do that. I'm trespassing on basketball grounds with this post but I completely agree. My daughter attends school at a D1 program and we are able to watch her play soccer almost every game online. It's usually broadcast by the conference. Once in a while it's picked up by ESPN3. I have noticed Ohio soccer does not seem to provide that coverage. And to make matters worse, in the MAC the Friday games often begin at 4 pm, which virtually no one can attend. All the more reason to run them online if possible. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 5:31:04 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: We don't do it 'cause we don't want to do it. Now, why we don't want to do it, I have no idea. We should, IMHO. Well, that would mean the academic side would need to embrace the athletics side. I want to buy eight hot dogs and eight hot dog buns to go with them. But no one sells eight hot dog buns. They only sell twelve hot dog buns. So I end up paying for four buns I don't need. So I am removing the superfluous buns. Yeah. And you want to know why? Because some big-shot over at the wiener company got together with some big-shot over at the bun company and decided to rip off the American public. Because they think the American public is a bunch of trusting nit-wits who will pay for everything they don't need rather than make a stink. Well they're not ripping of this nitwit anymore because I'm not paying for one more thing I don't need. George Banks is saying NO! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,753 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 9:57:10 PM  OhioStunter wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: We don't do it 'cause we don't want to do it. Now, why we don't want to do it, I have no idea. We should, IMHO. Well, that would mean the academic side would need to embrace the athletics side. I want to buy eight hot dogs and eight hot dog buns to go with them. But no one sells eight hot dog buns. They only sell twelve hot dog buns. So I end up paying for four buns I don't need. So I am removing the superfluous buns. Yeah. And you want to know why? Because some big-shot over at the wiener company got together with some big-shot over at the bun company and decided to rip off the American public. Because they think the American public is a bunch of trusting nit-wits who will pay for everything they don't need rather than make a stink. Well they're not ripping of this nitwit anymore because I'm not paying for one more thing I don't need. George Banks is saying NO! Boy we have conspiracy piled on top of conspiracy here. Big Weiner conspiring with Big Bun to screw the American public, which sounds a bit Freudian to me. Then they refuse to sell their overpriced hot dogs at OHIO soccer and other non-revenue sports, thereby keeping hungry fans away and creating a negative atmosphere that turns off potential academic cooperation with the athletic department that would result in the webcasting of these games. Thus proving what Shakespeare once said, "Oh what a tortured webcast we weave, when first we practice to deceive nitwit fans." The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,467 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 10:11:27 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: OhioStunter wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: We don't do it 'cause we don't want to do it. Now, why we don't want to do it, I have no idea. We should, IMHO. Well, that would mean the academic side would need to embrace the athletics side. I want to buy eight hot dogs and eight hot dog buns to go with them. But no one sells eight hot dog buns. They only sell twelve hot dog buns. So I end up paying for four buns I don't need. So I am removing the superfluous buns. Yeah. And you want to know why? Because some big-shot over at the wiener company got together with some big-shot over at the bun company and decided to rip off the American public. Because they think the American public is a bunch of trusting nit-wits who will pay for everything they don't need rather than make a stink. Well they're not ripping of this nitwit anymore because I'm not paying for one more thing I don't need. George Banks is saying NO! Boy we have conspiracy piled on top of conspiracy here. Big Weiner conspiring with Big Bun to screw the American public, which sounds a bit Freudian to me. Then they refuse to sell their overpriced hot dogs at OHIO soccer and other non-revenue sports, thereby keeping hungry fans away and creating a negative atmosphere that turns off potential academic cooperation with the athletic department that would result in the webcasting of these games. Thus proving what Shakespeare once said, "Oh what a tortured webcast we weave, when first we practice to deceive nitwit fans." I think the original conspiracy was when someone convinced people that a hot dog is food. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,596 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/23/2017 10:42:15 PM  OUVan wrote: Now I'm sure some of you who are a lot smarter than I will come forth and tell me why we can't do that. Likely the same corporate folks who explained why beer in Peden was impossible. Is common sense rare or are people unable to extend their time horizon to 10 years instead of 1 year? I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,213 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 9:35:29 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the original conspiracy was when someone convinced people that a hot dog is food. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what it is then, if you don't believe it is food. Now if your argument is it isn't an appetizing/healthy/whatever type of food fine...but I'm not sure why shaped meat trimmings are anything other than food... Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 9:41:17 AM  The Optimist wrote: OUVan wrote: Now I'm sure some of you who are a lot smarter than I will come forth and tell me why we can't do that. Likely the same corporate folks who explained why beer in Peden was impossible. Is common sense rare or are people unable to extend their time horizon to 10 years instead of 1 year? I think common sense has become more rare - I call it uncommon sense. If I'm reading in between the lines, you're suggesting there could be a 10 year plan to do things to grow the fanbase? Is this possible? ;) Last Edited: 10/24/2017 9:41:39 AM by OU_Country Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,061 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 9:53:30 AM  The Optimist wrote: OUVan wrote: Now I'm sure some of you who are a lot smarter than I will come forth and tell me why we can't do that. Likely the same corporate folks who explained why beer in Peden was impossible. Is common sense rare or are people unable to extend their time horizon to 10 years instead of 1 year? People appear unable to extend their time horizon past the most recent Facebook/Twitter/Snapchat update. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 10:34:57 AM  I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling Back to Top OhioFan44 General User Member Since: 10/24/2017 Post Count: 2 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 10:45:01 AM  It's because of the MAC deal with ESPN. Ohio can't just throw a stream on their website, neither can the MAC. Every sporting event must be professionally produced. Student help? Of course. ESPN owns the rights to every MAC sporting event, from football to cross country. bshot44 wrote: I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 11:19:22 AM  OhioFan44 wrote: ESPN owns the rights to every MAC sporting event, from football to cross country. That's a shame. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 12:12:07 PM  OhioFan44 wrote: It's because of the MAC deal with ESPN. Ohio can't just throw a stream on their website, neither can the MAC. Every sporting event must be professionally produced. Student help? Of course. ESPN owns the rights to every MAC sporting event, from football to cross country. bshot44 wrote: I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling Here's the beauty of ESPN3 owning the rights .... you don't have to worry about available time slots to stream the game! It's the freakin' internet. You can run anything thru that "channel" All Ohio would have to do is setup the equipment at Bob Wren or the soccer/field hockey fields and setup the stream. Other MAC schools have seemed to have figured it out http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Toledo http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Akron http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Ball Ohio looks like they do most home volleyball games ... probably because the equipment is already installed in the Convo. Seems to be the case for just about every MAC team when it comes to volleyball. From what I understand ... ESPN3 provides a platform to give MAC events "air-time" BUT ... It's on each of the schools to invest in the equipment and set-up. That is why Ohio was one of the last schools to go from coaches-cam/radio pumped in basketball broadcasts on ESPN3 to actual TV-like broadcasts. They chose not to pony up for the equipment until years after schools like Ball State, WMU and others. So it's not ESPN3 to blame here ... Ohio has the platform to air any sport they want on ESPN3 ... they are choosing not to do it. Whether that's a financial decision or staffing decision, I'm not sure? But I do know that a high number of students work on the ESPN3 basketball broadcasts behind-the-scenes. Same goes for other schools that don't air soccer, field hockey, etc. My guess is that it's more of a financial burden to commit resources to it ... maybe not a belief that students will be a reliable workforce? Either way ... this isn't an ESPN3 issue ... it's an individual school issue. That's who the finger gets pointed at. ESPN3 has done the bare minimum in outfitting these schools ... but each gets the graphics package and platform to air their product. It's just on them to produce it and staff it. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,397 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 1:52:32 PM  bshot44 wrote: OhioFan44 wrote: It's because of the MAC deal with ESPN. Ohio can't just throw a stream on their website, neither can the MAC. Every sporting event must be professionally produced. Student help? Of course. ESPN owns the rights to every MAC sporting event, from football to cross country. bshot44 wrote: I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling Here's the beauty of ESPN3 owning the rights .... you don't have to worry about available time slots to stream the game! It's the freakin' internet. You can run anything thru that "channel" All Ohio would have to do is setup the equipment at Bob Wren or the soccer/field hockey fields and setup the stream. Other MAC schools have seemed to have figured it out http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Toledo http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Akron http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Ball Ohio looks like they do most home volleyball games ... probably because the equipment is already installed in the Convo. Seems to be the case for just about every MAC team when it comes to volleyball. From what I understand ... ESPN3 provides a platform to give MAC events "air-time" BUT ... It's on each of the schools to invest in the equipment and set-up. That is why Ohio was one of the last schools to go from coaches-cam/radio pumped in basketball broadcasts on ESPN3 to actual TV-like broadcasts. They chose not to pony up for the equipment until years after schools like Ball State, WMU and others. So it's not ESPN3 to blame here ... Ohio has the platform to air any sport they want on ESPN3 ... they are choosing not to do it. Whether that's a financial decision or staffing decision, I'm not sure? But I do know that a high number of students work on the ESPN3 basketball broadcasts behind-the-scenes. Same goes for other schools that don't air soccer, field hockey, etc. My guess is that it's more of a financial burden to commit resources to it ... maybe not a belief that students will be a reliable workforce? Either way ... this isn't an ESPN3 issue ... it's an individual school issue. That's who the finger gets pointed at. ESPN3 has done the bare minimum in outfitting these schools ... but each gets the graphics package and platform to air their product. It's just on them to produce it and staff it. The OBC is currently awaiting your generous donation to make this happen! They thank you in advance. Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 2:07:03 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: bshot44 wrote: OhioFan44 wrote: It's because of the MAC deal with ESPN. Ohio can't just throw a stream on their website, neither can the MAC. Every sporting event must be professionally produced. Student help? Of course. ESPN owns the rights to every MAC sporting event, from football to cross country. bshot44 wrote: I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling Here's the beauty of ESPN3 owning the rights .... you don't have to worry about available time slots to stream the game! It's the freakin' internet. You can run anything thru that "channel" All Ohio would have to do is setup the equipment at Bob Wren or the soccer/field hockey fields and setup the stream. Other MAC schools have seemed to have figured it out http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Toledo http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Akron http://www.espn.com/watch/search/Ball Ohio looks like they do most home volleyball games ... probably because the equipment is already installed in the Convo. Seems to be the case for just about every MAC team when it comes to volleyball. From what I understand ... ESPN3 provides a platform to give MAC events "air-time" BUT ... It's on each of the schools to invest in the equipment and set-up. That is why Ohio was one of the last schools to go from coaches-cam/radio pumped in basketball broadcasts on ESPN3 to actual TV-like broadcasts. They chose not to pony up for the equipment until years after schools like Ball State, WMU and others. So it's not ESPN3 to blame here ... Ohio has the platform to air any sport they want on ESPN3 ... they are choosing not to do it. Whether that's a financial decision or staffing decision, I'm not sure? But I do know that a high number of students work on the ESPN3 basketball broadcasts behind-the-scenes. Same goes for other schools that don't air soccer, field hockey, etc. My guess is that it's more of a financial burden to commit resources to it ... maybe not a belief that students will be a reliable workforce? Either way ... this isn't an ESPN3 issue ... it's an individual school issue. That's who the finger gets pointed at. ESPN3 has done the bare minimum in outfitting these schools ... but each gets the graphics package and platform to air their product. It's just on them to produce it and staff it. The OBC is currently awaiting your generous donation to make this happen! They thank you in advance. I donate what I can, thank you. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 3:24:22 PM  bshot44 wrote: I find it interesting that we're willing to pay top-dollar (in MAC terms) for a football and men's basketball coach .... ... but when it comes time to invest money into the actual marketing and operations of our athletic dept, we fall woefully short ... to lot of similar sized and smaller schools. Yes ... with today's technology, it would NOT be hard to hook up a camera to the top of a pressbox and stream the Ohio soccer, field hockey, etc games. But let's take it a step further ... the MAC is a joke when it comes to this as well. This league just skates by doing bare minimum. For comparison ... the Sun Belt has a video channel on YouTube that links from their conference home page .... https://www.youtube.com/user/SunBeltSports Highlights of every football game ... Weekly teleconference from every football coach .... Here is the MAC YouTube page ... https://www.youtube.com/user/MACDigitalNetwork/videos The most recent video is a diversity & inclusion video from BG from two weeks ago. When it comes to live events ... even the OVC ... a league that I think almost everyone will agree is a few steps below the MAC in terms of talent and relevancy "airs" a ton of live events ... and they are super easy to find on their webpage http://ovcsports.com/#digitalnetwork Hell, they even have an app you can add to your Roku to watch these easily on your TV. Why the MAC continues to lag behind in this is beyond me. Is it lack of talent ... lack of vision ... laziness ... ineptness? I'm not sure what the answer is. But it's laughable no matter how you cut it. The technology is there ... why it isn't utilized like a lot of other leagues/schools Ohio/MAC size is puzzling This thread had all of the makings of going rogue...hot dog as a food, which would have led to is a hot dog at least a sandwich, to the ketchup on a hot dog debate. But we're back on track now. I agree with the simplicity of this. If ESPN owns the rights, it's not a shame, they paid for it. I'd be surprised if ESPN didn't allow the streaming of it if they weren't going to stream it anyway. Don't they have enough problems to worry about? Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,467 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 3:27:43 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I think the original conspiracy was when someone convinced people that a hot dog is food. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what it is then, if you don't believe it is food. Now if your argument is it isn't an appetizing/healthy/whatever type of food fine...but I'm not sure why shaped meat trimmings are anything other than food... It's mostly a joke. I've had my share of hot dogs and while I do try to eat healthy most of the time and limit my meat/meatbyproducts intake, I'm far from a food snob. Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 3:30:15 PM  OhioStunter wrote: If ESPN owns the rights, it's not a shame, they paid for it. Well, yes. But I don't know who's right here. IF bshot is right, I agree with him 100 percent. However, all the 44 guy said was that ESPN owned the rights, which to me implied they controlled the content. Bshot makes it sound like it's all on Ohio as to whether or not to broadcast. And again, if that's true, then I agree with his post. It also raises the question of money, which BTC reliably throws out. But if other conferences do it (smaller conferences to boot), why can't the MAC? How expensive is it to have a team manager or a student assistant pan back and forth with a digital camera? Back to Top OhioFan44 General User Member Since: 10/24/2017 Post Count: 2 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 3:36:27 PM  Ohio does have some control to what they broadcast. Each university has a minimum amount of events they must produce. I believe it is 75 a year? That being said, I agree that the MAC doesn't do much at the league office level. It's a mess over there. I was just trying to point out that's it's not just on Ohio. There's issues in terms of marketing, video content, etc. But the ESPN deal puts schools like Ohio in a tough spot. They must choose where to send those limited resources, and a field hockey game isn't going to picked over a volleyball match. Also, it's a lot easier to produce an event inside the Convo than at Pruitt. Robert Fox wrote: OhioStunter wrote: If ESPN owns the rights, it's not a shame, they paid for it. Well, yes. But I don't know who's right here. IF bshot is right, I agree with him 100 percent. However, all the 44 guy said was that ESPN owned the rights, which to me implied they controlled the content. Bshot makes it sound like it's all on Ohio as to whether or not to broadcast. And again, if that's true, then I agree with his post. It also raises the question of money, which BTC reliably throws out. But if other conferences do it (smaller conferences to boot), why can't the MAC? How expensive is it to have a team manager or a student assistant pan back and forth with a digital camera? Last Edited: 10/24/2017 3:40:47 PM by OhioFan44 Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/24/2017 3:56:00 PM  OhioFan44 wrote: Ohio does have some control to what they broadcast. Each university has a minimum amount of events they must produce. I believe it is 75 a year? That being said, I agree that the MAC doesn't do much at the league office level. It's a mess over there. I was just trying to point out that's it's not just on Ohio. There's issues in terms of marketing, video content, etc. But the ESPN deal puts schools like Ohio in a tough spot. They must choose where to send those limited resources, and a field hockey game isn't going to picked over a volleyball match. Also, it's a lot easier to produce an event inside the Convo than at Pruitt. Robert Fox wrote: OhioStunter wrote: If ESPN owns the rights, it's not a shame, they paid for it. Well, yes. But I don't know who's right here. IF bshot is right, I agree with him 100 percent. However, all the 44 guy said was that ESPN owned the rights, which to me implied they controlled the content. Bshot makes it sound like it's all on Ohio as to whether or not to broadcast. And again, if that's true, then I agree with his post. It also raises the question of money, which BTC reliably throws out. But if other conferences do it (smaller conferences to boot), why can't the MAC? How expensive is it to have a team manager or a student assistant pan back and forth with a digital camera? Totally agree on the ease of a Convo broadcast. The setup is already there from basketball. It doesn't require anything extra from a regular basketball broadcast. Yes ... broadcasting a soccer match or a field hockey game or baseball/softball would require some attention. You'd need to supply cameras and other equipment ... not to mention staff it. Akron seems able to do it. So does Ball State .... and some others. Toledo and BG have the luxury of BCSN doing a ton of events in NWO, so they're able to stream their broadcasts. It's obviously a commitment ... and one that Ohio chooses not to make for whatever reason. I agree with earlier comments that it is a great opportunity for students to get hands-on experience on a game broadcast and for a top-notch journalism/communications school ... these seems lost a lost opportunity. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,213 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/26/2017 8:58:30 AM  So am I understanding this right that if Ohio wants to live stream a Bobcats golf match, they can't just throw it up on their on, but they can put it out on ESPN3 using all their own production? Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,753 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/26/2017 11:43:20 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: So am I understanding this right that if Ohio wants to live stream a Bobcats golf match, they can't just throw it up on their on, but they can put it out on ESPN3 using all their own production? That's the way I understand the agreement with ESPN. They gave us some funds for the equipment and I think we agreed to do our webcasts exclusively through ESPN3. Anybody know any different? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,178 Status: Offline     RE: Live Streaming Gripe    Posted: 10/26/2017 10:00:23 PM  My thoughts on this topic is it would be nice to see what we do stream on ESPN3 streamed around campus and Athens. It would be a good advertisement for the students if one could walk into the Pigskin every Saturday and see the Ohio game on TV to go along with other major broadcasts. Same with men's basketball. I remember being in Memphis 10 years ago just outside Fedex on game night Memphis vs. Tulsa basketball and seeing bars packed all of which had the game on CBSSN. People weren't necessarily watching it but it really added to the atmosphere. There is a perception by some that OU is not a school you can follow, follow on TV so tough to get into. 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