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Last Edited: 12/27/2017 12:35:12 PM by DelBobcat BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012 Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,440 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/27/2017 1:03:10 PM  That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for them. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,811 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/27/2017 3:21:34 PM  Despite of my thoughts of Mike Davis during his time at Indiana, (not a huge fan of the Bracey Wright era....yak!) the guy can put teams in position to win. Not suprised that they're the favorites. They do the traditional SWAC No Mercy Tour, which means you're 1-11 at best coming into league play. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,440 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/27/2017 4:06:07 PM  Current SWAC standings: Grambling 4-8 .333 L1 Alcorn State 4-9 .308 L1 Southern 3-9 .250 L1 Jackson State 3-10 .231 L3 Prairie View A&M 2-11 .154 L8 Alabama State 0-12 .000 L12 Alabama A&M 0-13 .000 L13 Mississippi Valley State 0-13 .000 L13 Texas Southern 0-13 .000 L13 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-14 .000 L14 Last Edited: 12/27/2017 4:06:41 PM by GoCats105 Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,811 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/27/2017 4:47:56 PM  GoCats105 wrote: Current SWAC standings: Grambling 4-8 .333 L1 Alcorn State 4-9 .308 L1 Southern 3-9 .250 L1 Jackson State 3-10 .231 L3 Prairie View A&M 2-11 .154 L8 Alabama State 0-12 .000 L12 Alabama A&M 0-13 .000 L13 Mississippi Valley State 0-13 .000 L13 Texas Southern 0-13 .000 L13 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-14 .000 L14 Smartass lol. Meant it as in they rarely get to play home games, mostly P5 and good schools to boot for the funding of their athletic dept. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,440 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 8:10:13 AM  Buckeye to Bobcat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Current SWAC standings: Grambling 4-8 .333 L1 Alcorn State 4-9 .308 L1 Southern 3-9 .250 L1 Jackson State 3-10 .231 L3 Prairie View A&M 2-11 .154 L8 Alabama State 0-12 .000 L12 Alabama A&M 0-13 .000 L13 Mississippi Valley State 0-13 .000 L13 Texas Southern 0-13 .000 L13 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-14 .000 L14 Smartass lol. Meant it as in they rarely get to play home games, mostly P5 and good schools to boot for the funding of their athletic dept. Oh I wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was agreeing with you by laying the facts out there. I didn't realize the entire conference was that way until I saw their records. Back to Top DelBobcat General User Member Since: 8/26/2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,135 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 10:23:38 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Buckeye to Bobcat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Current SWAC standings: Grambling 4-8 .333 L1 Alcorn State 4-9 .308 L1 Southern 3-9 .250 L1 Jackson State 3-10 .231 L3 Prairie View A&M 2-11 .154 L8 Alabama State 0-12 .000 L12 Alabama A&M 0-13 .000 L13 Mississippi Valley State 0-13 .000 L13 Texas Southern 0-13 .000 L13 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-14 .000 L14 Smartass lol. Meant it as in they rarely get to play home games, mostly P5 and good schools to boot for the funding of their athletic dept. Oh I wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was agreeing with you by laying the facts out there. I didn't realize the entire conference was that way until I saw their records. I didn't realize this either. That would've been some important context to add to the article. BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012 Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,811 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 11:35:09 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Buckeye to Bobcat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Current SWAC standings: Grambling 4-8 .333 L1 Alcorn State 4-9 .308 L1 Southern 3-9 .250 L1 Jackson State 3-10 .231 L3 Prairie View A&M 2-11 .154 L8 Alabama State 0-12 .000 L12 Alabama A&M 0-13 .000 L13 Mississippi Valley State 0-13 .000 L13 Texas Southern 0-13 .000 L13 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 0-14 .000 L14 Smartass lol. Meant it as in they rarely get to play home games, mostly P5 and good schools to boot for the funding of their athletic dept. Oh I wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was agreeing with you by laying the facts out there. I didn't realize the entire conference was that way until I saw their records. You debunked my whole 1 win theory with 4 win teams. All's good, but in general this is a league that shows no mercy. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,214 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 12:20:45 PM  I love this quote from Mike Davis- “To have a home game you’ve gotta pay the officials $4,000-$5,000. The people [working the scorers’] table are another $2,500. So in order to have a home game, we’ve gotta clear $10,000. We’re not gonna clear $10,000. And I don’t want to waste my time playing NAIA teams. If we play a lower team, nobody’s gonna come in and see that. The math is simple.” Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 2:07:06 PM  Alan Swank wrote: I love this quote from Mike Davis- “To have a home game you’ve gotta pay the officials $4,000-$5,000. The people [working the scorers’] table are another $2,500. So in order to have a home game, we’ve gotta clear $10,000. We’re not gonna clear $10,000. And I don’t want to waste my time playing NAIA teams. If we play a lower team, nobody’s gonna come in and see that. The math is simple.” I don't disagree with his logic on the NAIA teams, but I'd have to ask why, after 3 conference tournament championships in 4 years, why can't they clear $10,000 on a home game in a nice building that seats 8,000? In Houston! I also have questions about the scorer's table cost, and the officials costs. Seems to me like that's high, but I don't know any facts to support my suspicions. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 2:10:36 PM  Here's a little on the topic of officials pay: https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/college-b... https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/01/28/ncaa-bas... Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,061 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/28/2017 6:18:53 PM  Alan Swank wrote: I love this quote from Mike Davis- “To have a home game you’ve gotta pay the officials $4,000-$5,000. The people [working the scorers’] table are another $2,500. So in order to have a home game, we’ve gotta clear $10,000. We’re not gonna clear $10,000. And I don’t want to waste my time playing NAIA teams. If we play a lower team, nobody’s gonna come in and see that. The math is simple.” So why on earth are they playing basketball at this level? It makes no sense at all. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,852 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/29/2017 8:42:14 AM  Ohio69 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I love this quote from Mike Davis- “To have a home game you’ve gotta pay the officials $4,000-$5,000. The people [working the scorers’] table are another $2,500. So in order to have a home game, we’ve gotta clear $10,000. We’re not gonna clear $10,000. And I don’t want to waste my time playing NAIA teams. If we play a lower team, nobody’s gonna come in and see that. The math is simple.” So why on earth are they playing basketball at this level? It makes no sense at all. If you're referencing breaking even or better on a home game, you could ask the same of many of our conference mates in hoops and most MAC teams in football. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,596 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/29/2017 8:50:37 AM  Ohio69 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I love this quote from Mike Davis- “To have a home game you’ve gotta pay the officials $4,000-$5,000. The people [working the scorers’] table are another $2,500. So in order to have a home game, we’ve gotta clear $10,000. We’re not gonna clear $10,000. And I don’t want to waste my time playing NAIA teams. If we play a lower team, nobody’s gonna come in and see that. The math is simple.” So why on earth are they playing basketball at this level? It makes no sense at all. If you go on the road (like they are) and play buy games (like they are) you can easily clear A LOT of money. I'm surprised more programs haven't gone "all-in" on buy-games just for the money. I liked when Ohio played 1-2 buy games and used that money to pay for home games themselves... Good equation for teams with a fanbase. No fanbase, why not go on the road and cash in? I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,596 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Texas Southern    Posted: 12/29/2017 9:14:28 AM  OU_Country wrote: Here's a little on the topic of officials pay: https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/college-b... https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/01/28/ncaa-bas... 1st article states the P5 is paying $2,500-$3,000 a game for officials PLUS a travel stipend on-top of that. Figure the SWAC is only paying maybe $1,250 a game plus a $250 travel stipend multiple that by three officials and you're up to $4,500. I don't know the specifics for basketball, but in some sports the scorers operating the game clock and managing the substitutions are actually officials. Not sure how that factors into this equation since he mentioned the scorers table seperately, but they'd be paid a decent chunk as well... Again, not sure for basketball specifically, but in some sports these new video replay systems involve ANOTHER licensed official behind-the-scenes watching game footage live. (A great example of technology CREATING jobs and also raising operating costs...) I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 15  of 15 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 177 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 174 Guests 3 Registered Users:   Flat Tire, brucecuth, GreenDaddy There are no other users looking at this page.

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