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TWT
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Posted: 12/13/2017 8:13:18 PM

Kareem says its the future with NFL concussions an issue with the public. Should we all start following the NBA? Do any of you prefer NBA to college basketball?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/abdul-jabbar-nba-has...

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/14/2017 12:18:47 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

I prefer both to the NFL......

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Posted: 12/14/2017 9:42:02 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

And soccer. When 70,000+ people in Atlanta attend an MLS game, something interesting is going on.

Both have their concussion issues, but soccer's is easier to fix.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/14/2017 12:14:32 PM

The NBA is endlessly entertaining as a soap opera. The off the court stuff and team dynamics and trades and salary cap stuff and super teams are all great for podcasts and stories. It is smarter, more progressive and its players aren't under playing under the fear of a giant hammer held by an all-powerful commissioner like NFL players are. A guy like Zach Lowe can explain to me in five minutes what a team is doing X's and O's wise and it enlivens how I watch the sport. Doing that with football would take hours.

I love the NBA.

But it's tough to watch an entire NBA game from tip-off to end. There are just long periods of time where the benches are on the floor and it's a slog.

So I think the NBA will become enormously popular, but it will be watched like people are starting to watch the NFL, with a Red Zone mentality, except instead of the red zone, people will watch only the fourth quarters.

It's a strange watch in that you only need to see the final five minutes of an NBA game. Big leads disappear in minutes. Coaches are managing minutes to get to that final push at the end.

I love the NBA, but it's a strange TV watch.

Last Edited: 12/14/2017 12:17:33 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

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Posted: 12/14/2017 3:06:49 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

The NBA is endlessly entertaining as a soap opera. The off the court stuff and team dynamics and trades and salary cap stuff and super teams are all great for podcasts and stories.

To add to this, I believe no league has a more interesting off-season than the NBA. I wouldn't have said that until the past few years. Until then, there was nothing better than the hot-stove league for MLB. I now believe, however, that the NBA summers have surpassed the MLB winters in intrigue.

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/14/2017 8:40:09 PM

Uncle Wes wrote:

Vastly prefer the NBA to the college game. Putting aside my personal feelings about the NBA, the on-the-court product is just vastly superior in the NBA. Obviously the talent level's much higher, but the game is also played at a much better pace with better spacing.

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Posted: 12/14/2017 9:14:28 PM

They are very hard to compare. Because of the talent level, the games are pretty different. Shots that you would call bad shot selection in college can be good shots in the NBA because those guys are so good, they make those shots a high percentage of the time and because the defenses are so good, you might not get a better shot. You almost never see pressure defense in the NBA because the players are so good, the end result almost always is going to be a dunk. I used to have a friend complain that NBA teams never try to "crash the boards" on offense. Again, it's something you just can't do. If everyone is going for the rebound and you don't get it, it's a dunk for the other team.

The amazing level of play in the NBA makes it very fun to watch at times, but the variety you get in a college game also is fun for me.

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Posted: 12/14/2017 10:10:50 PM

The inherent advantage to the NFL is the importance of each individual game. There are only 16, so it's not a crazy commitment to follow. Then, in the playoffs, the fact that it's one and done adds suspense to each play. It's the same way that the NCAA Tournament has us on the edge of our seat for teams we don't even care for. The NBA being 80+ games with a postseason that lasts for two months is just too exhausting. It's also hurt by the fact that the past couple years have felt like the playoffs are just a delay of the inevitable on who will get to the finals. Without competitive balance, I think the league suffers.

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Posted: 12/15/2017 1:16:36 PM

It's amazing we're typing these things given how in the late 1990s and early 2000s, the opposite was true. The NBA was a big man dominated slog of bully ball and clear outs. The Suns changed it all. The Warriors have perfected it and it's really, really, really fun to watch.

College, as fewer players top players stay more than a season, gets clunkier and clunkier. I still like it, but every year feels like every major power is rebuilding its roster from scratch. There's no continuity.

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/15/2017 9:44:29 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

This^

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/15/2017 10:59:21 PM

The NBA and the NHL to some extent have somewhat cult like followings. As mentioned above, there is often a lot of off the court or ice drama thrown into the mix. The NFL has many fewer game and baseball doesn't seem to have colorful personalities that one finds in the NFL, NBA and NHL. Sometimes baseball gets a bad rap for being boring, but with all of the NFL's concussion problems, boring might not be too bad at this moment in time.

Personally, college football and college basketball are my two favorite sports. Just enough talent to make it interesting, but a lot of loyal fans with their own unique traditions that make it all worthwhile.

Last Edited: 12/15/2017 11:00:52 PM by cbus cat fan

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/18/2017 2:02:47 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

No continuity. That may be exactly why people like it. Every year in the NBA, it is Cavs-Warriors. As a Cavs fan, I like that. I can see why others don't. There's nothing in sports like March Madness. You can't have a bad game the entire tournament. You have to win at least 6 in a row to win the title. Any other sport require that?

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Posted: 12/18/2017 5:54:40 PM

OhioStunter wrote:

Well, kinda...the NFL. Though that is 3-4 games, not 6. I think that's why Bill Parcells used to reference the playoffs in the NFL as the tournament.

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/18/2017 7:31:38 PM

finnOhio wrote:

OhioStunter wrote:

Well, kinda...the NFL. Though that is 3-4 games, not 6. I think that's why Bill Parcells used to reference the playoffs in the NFL as the tournament.

However in college basketball, as was said above, you don't have to have an advanced degree in the NFL rulebook to understand what a catch, fumble, pass interference, or personal foul are. The NFL is killing itself practically every weekend with something new. While December college basketball isn't traditionally compelling, November is, and January to March has at least a dozen really good games a week.

For me, the NBA feels more like entertainment in the regular season, and less like sport. Its like basketball + MTV + reality TV, and it doesn't work for me. I can't bring myself to watch games until April unless it's a social setting. I'd rather watch regular season hockey or baseball over the NBA.

One of the things that grabs my attention with college hoops that I don't get with the NBA until games start to matter for the playoffs in April is the atmosphere at a game. On TV, the NBA has all the manufactured, and metallic sounding stuff from the PA system trying to get cheers going. It sounds awful on TV. College basketball, in maybe half the games played in a week, is simply better in the atmosphere department in my opinion.

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RE: NBA

Posted: 12/18/2017 7:36:57 PM

OhioStunter wrote:

Brian Smith wrote:

From mid February, until the end of March, I think college hoops has a little bit of a "must win" feel for a lot of teams. Some won't agree, but if a team wants to go dancin', they can't afford more than 1-2 losses in front of the selection committee in the last 3-4 weeks before Selection Sunday. And that's the money conference teams. In a conference like the MAC, MAAC, etc, a team basically can't lose at all in that time-frame.

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