Care to elaborate how it's a good movie, but not a good Star Wars movie?

Rogue One, for me, is the best Star Wars related film I've seen so far.


I'm in agreement - and I own all of them, and read many of the books. Related to all the criticism of the Last Jedi or Force Awakens films, there are plot holes and issues in every single Star Wars film if you want to complain about them. All of them. I re-watched parts of Episodes I-III a couple weeks ago, and enjoyed them more than I did a couple years ago. Like Ohio69 said - they're fun.

Also, if you want more "back story" and understanding of some characters, read the books. There's a lot there in the books.

There is more mysticism in this movie so the Leia scene is in that mold. Galaxy of the Guardians has a similar space survival scene. Its clear from this one the new trilogy is playing out the Jedi Academy trilogy from the early 90's as a foundation to the story. The first movie had a few references to the Jedi Academy and Rey finds Luke there. Casino was another attempt to work something new into the movie but the Atlantic City boardwalk been considered for the original trilogy? I think not on that one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Academy_trilogy

That right there with Guardians of the Galaxy is why this one sucks and why I said Tony Stark in this movie would have been no different.

Disney literally applied the Marvel concepts to it and is why I sit there and go the concepts have to be kept separate. Thank you for proving my point of this being a "glorified version" of a Marvel Film.....

I keep hoping we've hit peak comic book movie. Batman (1989) was in my top 3 favorite movies as a kid. The first X-Men film was fun, because YES X-MEN FINALLY ON THE BIG SCREEN, and ditto the first two Sam Raimi Spiderman films. Since then, outside of the Nolan Dark Knight series, I haven't been super excited about anything Marvel or DC for that very reason--it's all too cookie cutter. Like I said about JJ Abrams--I get why I'm supposed to like it, but I don't.

If that's what they're doing to Star Wars, then just ugh. First Lucas screws up Han shooting first. Then Lucas screws up Vader in the prequels. (98% of the sins of the prequels are fixed if Anakin/Vader is played more as a bad ass bully than an irritating snot-nosed whiny pubescent twerp. I'd be OK if Disney rebooted them and fixed that, but they won't.)

And if the Disney/Fox merger goes through, it's only going to get worse.

Yeah the comic book thing is getting to be way too much. I will say I did enjoy the storyline for The Punisher series on Netflix, though. But have you seen the trailer for Avengers Infinity War? My God does that look awful. There are at least 20 main characters in the damn thing.

And other than the Dark Knight series, you have to tip your cap to Logan. That was a great movie.

^^^This. As I mentioned earlier, now more than ever, everyone is a critic -- of everything. I also watched some of the earlier movies and if Twitter were around after some of these movies, I don't think we'd have trilogies. There are flaws in all of them, but love them for what they are -- good sci-fi movies that appeal to generations of fans.

Every argument I've heard against TLJ could be applied to any of the other Star Wars movies (did we have a back story on the Emperor?). I don't necessarily disagree with them, but it is what it is. And I'm calling it now that Episode IX will disappoint many people. But so will the finales of Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, etc. You just can't please everyone today.