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Posted: 12/16/2017 9:28 AM
I am really curious what everyone's thoughts were on the movie? I mean if we're gonna fight on here might as well be on something that I know will create as much polarizing discussion as to whether we are happy winning 8-9 games or getting a MAC Championship. And go!
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Posted: 12/16/2017 4:15 PM
I want to see it kinda, but at the same time... f(*& disney.
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Posted: 12/18/2017 10:05 AM
There are two acceptable responses: 5* or 4*. Everyone else is wrong. ;)
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Posted: 12/18/2017 11:46 AM
The public feedback on this movie embodies where we are as a society with the advent of social media -- instant analysis, expectations of answers, a "mob" mentality.

This may be the most over-analyzed movie in history. If any of the other original Star Wars movies went through this type of public discussion, it would have been even worse.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was: an action-packed ride that made me laugh out loud (several times), surprised me with some twists, and put a tear in my eye. If a movie can do that, it is a success.
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Posted: 12/18/2017 11:58 AM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
The public feedback on this movie embodies where we are as a society with the advent of social media -- instant analysis, expectations of answers, a "mob" mentality.

This may be the most over-analyzed movie in history. If any of the other original Star Wars movies went through this type of public discussion, it would have been even worse.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was: an action-packed ride that made me laugh out loud (several times), surprised me with some twists, and put a tear in my eye. If a movie can do that, it is a success.

This hits the nail on the head.
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Posted: 12/18/2017 1:23 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
The public feedback on this movie embodies where we are as a society with the advent of social media -- instant analysis, expectations of answers, a "mob" mentality.

This may be the most over-analyzed movie in history. If any of the other original Star Wars movies went through this type of public discussion, it would have been even worse.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was: an action-packed ride that made me laugh out loud (several times), surprised me with some twists, and put a tear in my eye. If a movie can do that, it is a success.

This hits the nail on the head.
Yup. I do understand the outcry. There were certainly elements of this movie that were lame (Princess Leia "flying" like Mary Poppins was ludicrous) but at the same time it's a MOVIE, lol. It may in fact be the worst movie to have the Star Wars name, but the worst Star Wars is still pretty awesome. But what do I know, I enjoyed the prequels.
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Posted: 12/18/2017 11:17 PM
I enjoyed it. First movie I ever saw in the theater was Empire during its original run.

I laughed... I got teary-eyed... I liked seeing old friends return... I enjoyed the ride.

Are there flaws? Uh, hell yeah. Did I roll my eyes a couple times. You bet! Even a cringe here or there. Was i perplexed? At times...

I felt good coming out of the theater for this, as I had for TFA and R1. The prequels not so much, but I still had fun watching them.

Hopefully IX will be good. It better have another return of an old fave. No Lando, no peace...


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Posted: 12/19/2017 8:31 AM
I feel like this movie is what The Force Awakens either COULD have or SHOULD have been. I felt more invested in Rey and Kylo in this one than I did the last one. Their onscreen chemistry in this was wonderful. And Mark Hamill did a fantastic job. He's an underrated actor who won't ever get a lot of work simply because he'll always be known as Luke Skywalker.

It was a good movie overall, but some of the cheesy moments I could not wrap my head around (like the aforementioned Leia flying through space and surviving it thing). Also, the whole Finn/Rose/Poe story was almost pointless.

I like the way Rian Johnson took risks. A lot of them. It's definitely not your typical Star Wars movie, which was good in a lot of ways. I think what I'm most confused about is, "okay, but where do they go from here?"
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Posted: 12/19/2017 11:35 AM
I haven't seen it but I give it five bags of popcorn and two sodas
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Posted: 12/19/2017 11:47 AM
I still haven't seen TFA, because I don't trust JJ Abrams not to screw it up. As I said to friends of mine, I get why I'm supposed to like Abrams' work--I just don't. Everything seems right on the edge of great, and then ends just short. It's good-ish.

Since I haven't seen TFA, I'm not seeing TLJ. I'll get around to it eventually, when my son gets back into Star Wars.

(I did see Rogue One. I enjoyed it. The story-telling's a little too jittery, and the blind guy and his buddy are a little too deus ex machina, but it was fun.)
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Posted: 12/19/2017 12:56 PM
JJ Abrams tends to introduce intriguing mysteries that build up over the course of the series, then never pays them off in the end.

Sort of like a certain football team this year.
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Posted: 12/19/2017 2:03 PM
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JJ Abrams tends to introduce intriguing mysteries that build up over the course of the series, then never pays them off in the end.

Sort of like a certain football team this year.
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Posted: 12/19/2017 3:47 PM
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I still haven't seen TFA, because I don't trust JJ Abrams not to screw it up. As I said to friends of mine, I get why I'm supposed to like Abrams' work--I just don't. Everything seems right on the edge of great, and then ends just short. It's good-ish.

Since I haven't seen TFA, I'm not seeing TLJ. I'll get around to it eventually, when my son gets back into Star Wars.

(I did see Rogue One. I enjoyed it. The story-telling's a little too jittery, and the blind guy and his buddy are a little too deus ex machina, but it was fun.)
JJ Abrams is probably the most overrated story teller this side of the moon. His films do have good concepts and are generally well executed, and entertaining to boot, but the more sizzle than steak usually.

Which begs the question, why did he not direct ep 8, but is coming back to do ep 9?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 12:50 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I still haven't seen TFA, because I don't trust JJ Abrams not to screw it up. As I said to friends of mine, I get why I'm supposed to like Abrams' work--I just don't. Everything seems right on the edge of great, and then ends just short. It's good-ish.

Since I haven't seen TFA, I'm not seeing TLJ. I'll get around to it eventually, when my son gets back into Star Wars.

(I did see Rogue One. I enjoyed it. The story-telling's a little too jittery, and the blind guy and his buddy are a little too deus ex machina, but it was fun.)
JJ Abrams is probably the most overrated story teller this side of the moon. His films do have good concepts and are generally well executed, and entertaining to boot, but the more sizzle than steak usually.

Which begs the question, why did he not direct ep 8, but is coming back to do ep 9?
JJ had only signed on for the first movie, but the original producer of ep 8 was "fired" because his initial vision didn't match and execs asked JJ to come back and finish it out.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 11:06 AM
5/10. TFA blew this one out of the water. My issue is with the script. That could have used one or two more re-writes. I can't remember one scene that really reached me. Never did I feel that any of the main characters were in true danger. Big dumb action sequence in the middle. I'm happy Abrams is back for 9.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 11:31 AM
I find it interesting that so many of the leaders in ep 8 are women -- Leia, the Vice Admiral, Rey, etc. -- while the men pretty much have support roles. I wonder how that sits with the typical male action movie fan, who generally wants a strong woman who's secondary to the male hero, such as Marion in the Indiana Jones movies.

Overall I thought it was very good. At least the script didn't have the stupid overstated lines that George Lucas likes to throw in. ("If you strike me down I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.") I'm not sure this will have the legs previous Star Wars movies have had. We saw the 2:30 pm show at Easton on Christmas Eve and it was maybe half full.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 11:59 AM
I couldn't get past the cheesy pun lines similar to the Marvel Universe where if Tony Stark had half of those roles it wouldn't have skipped a beat. I also couldn't get past the Leia scene.....that to me was the jumping the shark part of the Star Wars saga. Nonetheless, my other issues stemmed from the storyline and its non-sense of why bother to go find a code breaker when in reality you didn't need it, along with the scene essentially showing war-profiteers being bad on a casino island, which by the way seemed ripped off from Skyfall.

Also, literally felt like the knock off version of Episodes 5-6 mixed together along with Luke Skywalker essentially being thrown away to come in and save all of 10 people and not only that fighting with Kylo Ren even though he was on another planet.....how in the hell does that work? Made zero sense and was lost.

Some say that the mysticism of the force, I call the entire movie a stoner's session in Boyd Hall watching the originals and going, "How can we make the same thing, but 'better'???"
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Posted: 12/26/2017 12:18 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I couldn't get past the cheesy pun lines similar to the Marvel Universe where if Tony Stark had half of those roles it wouldn't have skipped a beat.
Hit the nail on the head with it here. I fear that Disney is more or less ruining the movies. The marketing and merchandising has never been better, but the movies, although entertaining to watch, are just meh.

And as Shab noted, you never feel like anyone is in danger. There are no stakes so there is no tension or drama.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 12:35 PM
Unlike Rogue One where everyone got nuked.

The villains kind of suck, too, outside of Ren. I can't take any of them seriously. General Huxx may as well come from a Ninja Turtles cartoon. And it would be nice to know something about Snoke other than that Ren answers to him.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 12:59 PM
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I couldn't get past the cheesy pun lines similar to the Marvel Universe where if Tony Stark had half of those roles it wouldn't have skipped a beat.
Hit the nail on the head with it here. I fear that Disney is more or less ruining the movies. The marketing and merchandising has never been better, but the movies, although entertaining to watch, are just meh.

And as Shab noted, you never feel like anyone is in danger. There are no stakes so there is no tension or drama.
Hence why in my thoughts it was no better than Aladdin 4: Jafar Needs Glasses
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Posted: 12/26/2017 2:01 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I couldn't get past the cheesy pun lines similar to the Marvel Universe where if Tony Stark had half of those roles it wouldn't have skipped a beat.
Hit the nail on the head with it here. I fear that Disney is more or less ruining the movies. The marketing and merchandising has never been better, but the movies, although entertaining to watch, are just meh.

And as Shab noted, you never feel like anyone is in danger. There are no stakes so there is no tension or drama.
Hence why in my thoughts it was no better than Aladdin 4: Jafar Needs Glasses
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Posted: 12/26/2017 2:05 PM
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Unlike Rogue One where everyone got nuked.
Which is kinda funny because a lot of Star Wars fans hated Rogue One. I thought it was fantastic. It's in my top 3 for Star Wars movies.
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Posted: 12/26/2017 3:16 PM
I never thought of Star Wars movies as sophisticated type movies. So this one seemed fun to me. I’ll give it 3.5.

They could have a problem as Finn and Poe Dameron seem like boring/dull milk-toast good guys to me. Then again, so is Luke Skywalker.

Looking forward to Han Solo movie. Hopefully that as a bit more edge to it.
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Posted: 12/27/2017 11:04 AM
It was a good movie

It wasn’t a good STAR WARS movie
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Posted: 12/27/2017 3:28 PM
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I never thought of Star Wars movies as sophisticated type movies. So this one seemed fun to me. I’ll give it 3.5.

They could have a problem as Finn and Poe Dameron seem like boring/dull milk-toast good guys to me. Then again, so is Luke Skywalker.

Looking forward to Han Solo movie. Hopefully that as a bit more edge to it.
I can't wait for the Han Solo movie....especially after seeing what Rogue One looked like. Personally was a huge fan of that movie with its storyline and fitted the story like a glove in the Star Wars universe.
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