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Topic: RE: What’s up with Smith?

Topic: RE: What’s up with Smith?

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Morris Mound
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 2:43:59 PM

How on Earth has the story not leaked yet? Honestly, tip of the cap to the mods here. I'm frustrated as hell but one can't say the rules of the board aren't being followed. lol

colobobcat66
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 2:50:16 PM

Jonesy1017 wrote:

https://x.com/kiefermedia/status/1995940086207447263?s=46...

“According to head coach Brian Smith's attorney, Smith is on paid leave for the time being. His attorney says Smith was asked to leave in the middle of the day yesterday, and they deny any wrongdoing. The attorney claims no allegations or charges have been brought against Smith.”

“We reached out to the university and the athletic department for further comment, but they provided none beyond yesterday’s announcement”

That’s a little more solid as far as what’s happened. I’d say Smith’s time here is probably over, wouldn’t you?

Although I don’t necessarily believe what a lawyer says about what’s happened.

Bobcat1998
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 2:54:34 PM

Kevin Finnegan wrote:

How about a homecoming for Tim Albin? Don't think Charlotte would be sad to see him leave.

Screw him.

Bobcat1998
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 2:56:22 PM

John Hauser is OUr coach. Don't get fancy with this.

Trevor Stephens
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:03:13 PM

Dec. 2 Update:

According to Brian Smith’s attorney, Smith was asked to leave in the middle of the workday on Dec. 1. His attorney claims he was not given any information as to why he was being put on leave, as they also went on to say no allegations or charges have been brought against Smith at this time.

His attorney says Smith is currently on paid leave, and they deny all wrongdoing and will fight any allegations brought against him.

The university declined to comment further than the posted announcement on Dec. 1.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:27:18 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

BobcatBurner wrote:

Horrible PR and getting worse by the minute.

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't there basically no information available publicly?

It seems like there needs to be a "public" to have horrible public relations. Right now, it seems like 100% of the national interest basically amounts to people hoping this is a story they'll be able to make jokes about.

My buddy who lives in Denver, “OU fired the coach and is vacating wins?!”

It’s spreading because of the vagueness, secrecy and the timing.

A WVU Football meme account made a joke about how bad WVU football is this year. One tweet. That people didn't get the joke doesn't make this a PR nightmare.

By and large, nobody cares right now.

The PR issue is going to come later this week/next as details come out. Right now, the University is doing an excellent job of containing this.

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:27:18 PM

BobcatBurner wrote:

The university needs to act and quickly. This story is spiraling out of control. Horrible PR and getting worse by the minute.

Total amateur hour.

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:28:33 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

BobcatBurner wrote:

Horrible PR and getting worse by the minute.

My buddy who lives in Denver, “OU fired the coach and is vacating wins?!”

It’s spreading because of the vagueness, secrecy and the timing.

Your personal experience doesn’t reflect that of reality.

And the joke has spread thousands of miles away. So your quip only underlines it.

Spend two minutes on Reddit.

They COULD have contained it, but they chose to send out a cryptic note instead.

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 3:30:04 PM by M.D.W.S.T

GoCats105
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:33:46 PM

The media literacy for some members on this board is quite frightening considering how good our J school is supposed to be.

L.C.
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:42:34 PM

My guess is whatever is the reason, it's being investigated, because the University wants to be careful in it's decision. It will probably take a few days, at least, so we all need patience.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 3:51:58 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Your personal experience doesn’t reflect that of reality.

You relayed your personal experience -- what your buddy in Denver said. My experience is based on this board, which consists of people who pay very close attention to Ohio Football, mostly talking about the fact that they know nothing about this right now.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

And the joke has spread thousands of miles away. So your quip only underlines it.

Spend two minutes on Reddit.

I checked out the Reddit threads.

This one has the most comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1pbxdbv/nakos_ohio_...

168 comments. 311 upvotes. Only a small fraction of those comments in the last 6 hours, everything else from yesterday. Not even a top 30 thread on /cfb over the last 24 hours.

Nobody really cares. It's not on the top story list on ESPN's college football page, it's gotten picked up by some wire/content churn sites, but those tend to have very few actual impressions.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

They COULD have contained it, but they chose to send out a cryptic note instead.

Curious what you think they should have said, exactly?

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 4:12:08 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

PhiTau74
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:00:07 PM

If his attorney is the same as Clase and Ortiz for the Guardians it could go on for years.

Doc Bobcat
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:16:50 PM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

John Hauser is OUr coach. Don't get fancy with this.

I know some who said Hauser should have been the pick over Smith.

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:17:51 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

[QUOTE=M.D.W.S.T]

Curious what you think they should have said, exactly?

Absolutely nothing.

What has changed in the last 24 hours? What good does this news do? Other than make recruits second guess signing with OU tomorrow.

They won’t play another game of football for three weeks at the earliest. You have three weeks to investigate, and craft your thorough and meaningful response. IF it requires one. If it doesn’t, then wonderful. You did a good job keeping a lid on it. IF you need fire him, then you’ve done your diligence and can fire him. Unless I missed it, the New York Times didn’t drop a bombshell this morning. What was the rush to put out this inane memo? You keep this in house until you figure out exactly what has gone down and are prepared to answer questions or have an actual course of action.

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:31:58 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Absolutely nothing.

What has changed in the last 24 hours? What good does this news do? Other than make recruits second guess signing with OU tomorrow.

Sorry man, but "we should have let recruits sign with OU based on false pretenses" isn't a PR strategy. It's clear something's going to come out about Smith that ain't good, and that he's coached his last game for us.

Once the University knows that, you have to take action ahead of signing day, right? Isn't it dishonest not to?

You're prioritizing signing day success over being honest with the kids signing about who they'd be signing with.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

They won’t play another game of football for three weeks at the earliest. You have three weeks to investigate, and craft your thorough and meaningful response. IF it requires one. If it doesn’t, then wonderful. You did a good job keeping a lid on it. IF you need fire him, then you’ve done your diligence and can fire him. Unless I missed it, the New York Times didn’t drop a bombshell this morning. What was the rush to put out this inane memo? You keep this in house until you figure out exactly what has gone down and are prepared to answer questions or have an actual course of action.

They've got a course of action. It's underway. You're making a baseless assumption here -- that they haven't been investigating this already, and that this came completely out of the blue just because it came out of the blue for you. Bobcatblitz knew about it back in October. No doubt the University did, too.

The memo may read as "inane" but it's basically exactly what a PR agency would tell any University to do about a pending termination as a result of personal-life stuff. Put them on paid leave, share no details, name an interim replacement, move on officially when this is in the rearview. That the press release didn't include details certainly doesn't mean the University doesn't know them. Their decision's been made, and they're following the standard process as a result.

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 4:34:09 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:38:59 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Absolutely nothing.

What has changed in the last 24 hours? What good does this news do? Other than make recruits second guess signing with OU tomorrow.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Signing under false pretenses?

You’re doing a lot of assuming here. Or did the memo let you know what happened and he IS being fired? Because just do it. Don’t put out this nonsense with no plan. Just because you thibk there is a plan doesn’t mean one was expressed. Was there some details shared that I missed? Are we letting recruits know what kind of guy he is? Which memo did you get?

And this smug nonsense like you’re Olivia Pope is so funny it’s giving me secondhand embarrassment.

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 4:51:55 PM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:43:49 PM

The latest developments sound eerily similar to the Cleveland Guardians gambling scandal.

Cryptic statements, abrupt paid leave, denying any wrong doing, willingness to fight in court, nobody having any clue what is going on, etc. I think if it were gambling related, the NCAA would make a statement? That's the one part missing.

BillyTheCat
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:53:07 PM

It’s not like OHIO University and Athletics doesn’t have experience with suspending coaches and organizations based on allegations that are proven false. 110 and Wrestling anyone? Let it play, and if allegations are false, it’s best they are not out there. Just my opinion but our desire to know does not supersede the persons rights in labor law and/or any other type of law.

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 4:56:35 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Absolutely nothing.

What has changed in the last 24 hours? What good does this news do? Other than make recruits second guess signing with OU tomorrow.

I think there was a somewhat recent firing that did exactly this and it was before the transfer portal rules had changed so the recruits were essentially bound to their NLI and forced to enroll at the school for a coach they didn't get recruited by or want to play for. I'll see if I can dig something up on who that was.

In a somewhat related note, this happened to a larger degree with Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss before he was fired. They repeatedly lied to recruits about upcoming NCAA sanctions just so they could get the kids in the program. Freeze continued recruiting through the offseason but was fired in July of the following season.

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:00:20 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

...our desire to know does not supersede the persons rights in labor law and/or any other type of law.

Exactly.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:02:23 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Signing under false pretenses?

You’re doing a lot of assuming here. Or did the memo let you know what happened and he IS being fired?

You know of a lot of instances where high profile employees are suddenly put on leave for personal reasons, no details are shared, they're replaced by an interim, and they come back to work?

You know of any?

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Because just do it.

If Smith is fired without cause, the University owes him $2.5m: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/10/10/oh... /.

They're going to take their time documenting the sh*t out of this, doing everything by the book, and running a thorough investigation. They clearly know enough now to know the outcome; that doesn't mean they can "just do it" though.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Don’t put out this nonsense with no plan. Just because you thibk there is a plan doesn’t mean one was expressed.

Two options here:

1) The University put the coach on leave out of the blue, knows nothing, has no plan whatsoever, and no rationale for doing this

or

2) They have investigated enough to know the ultimate outcome and put out a statement that doesn't go against every single thing their PR/Legal teams are telling them to do and lay out a bunch of allegations against Smith.

Tough choice.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Don’t even reply to this. Just lower your head in shame.

You're somehow two months behind on a 24 hour story.

Edit: You keep editing your post to try and make it more clever. Third edit in 20 minutes. Let me know when you have a final draft ready.

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 5:11:59 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

M.D.W.S.T
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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:06:42 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Signing under false pretenses?

You’re doing a lot of assuming here. Or did the memo let you know what happened and he IS being fired?

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Because just do it.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Don’t put out this nonsense with no plan. Just because you thibk there is a plan doesn’t mean one was expressed.

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Don’t even reply to this. Just lower your head in shame.

You're somehow two months behind on a 24 hour story.

You keep repeating yourself and saying nothing. A gift. Maybe you really are Olivia Pope.

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:11:26 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

Absolutely nothing.

What has changed in the last 24 hours? What good does this news do? Other than make recruits second guess signing with OU tomorrow.

But we’re missing a very big key piece of this…

They announced jack shit.

Last Edited: 12/2/2025 5:13:10 PM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:14:09 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

But we’re missing a very big key piece of this…

They announced jack shit.

They’re not covering their ass cause they’re not saying anything.

This entire sub knows what happened at this point, and acting like they were informed by the university.

You're super, super close. Maybe take a nap or have a snack and try coming back to it with a fresh head?

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RE: What’s up with Smith?

Posted: 12/2/2025 5:17:55 PM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

You're super, super close. Maybe take a nap or have a snack and try coming back to it with a fresh head?

Can you help me put out a press release about it first Olivia?

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