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If it was fiction, why did you even bring it up? Bobcat1996 wrote: ...You also lost everything that Frank Solich built in the last 20 years. .... This remains to be seen. While Albin is gone, most of the assistants under Albin are still there, and I presume that, if they stay, those coaches will try to maintain the culture of winning that Ohio now has. Also, the entire team remains, for now, and they can also carry on that culture. Now, after the bowl, what will happen remains to be seen. At one extreme, the rest of the staff could remain intact, and the players could all stay. At the other extreme, the assistant coaches could all depart, and the players could hit the portal en masse. I do recognize that a minority of posters on BA favor deliberately changing the culture, but that doesn't mean it will happen. At this point, Ohio has to put this behind them and move forward. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. Last Edited: 12/16/2024 9:58:05 AM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,577 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 9:59:49 AM  Its been over a week since Albin departed Athens ,and not a word on the coaching search or a replacement. Our federal government should be as good with "radio silence". I just hope O.U. is giving the coaching search the appropriate priority. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,701 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 10:15:12 AM  L.C. wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Yes the Rice offer is fiction and the AD knew it because she was made aware of it. ... If it was fiction, why did you even bring it up? Bobcat1996 wrote: ...You also lost everything that Frank Solich built in the last 20 years. .... This remains to be seen. While Albin is gone, most of the assistants under Albin are still there, and I presume that, if they stay, those coaches will try to maintain the culture of winning that Ohio now has. Also, the entire team remains, for now, and they can also carry on that culture. Now, after the bowl, what will happen remains to be seen. At one extreme, the rest of the staff could remain intact, and the players could all stay. At the other extreme, the assistant coaches could all depart, and the players could hit the portal en masse. I do recognize that a minority of posters on BA favor deliberately changing the culture, but that doesn't mean it will happen. At this point, Ohio has to put this behind them and move forward. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. If you follow any of the players on instagram and twitter, they're all pro Smith and seem to be in a good place. All are posting about OU and the bowl game, shouting out players who were selected to all-mac teams. Outside of the initial reactions I saw, everything has died down. Shay Taylor wrote on twitter earlier "A testment to the coaching staff" on Decker's post about no one jumping into the portal. I wrote 'Announce Smith!' on one of the posts and Parker and Heidecker liked it. The only people freaking out right now seem to be a small subsect of BA folks. Like usual. I want Smith named yesterday, but everything seems to be extremely quiet and steady. If not oddly so. I think that means they know he was told he's the next man up. Of course, I could be wrong and everyone could jump in after the bowl game - which wouldn't be all that surprising given we lost our coach - but for the moment, we lost our coach and not one player. Not one player has jumped into the portal and went to UNCC. That's wild. That says a lot. Maybe Albin wasn't as beloved as some thought. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 10:24:39 AM  Not sure how we've lost everything Frank Solich built over the past 20 years if Frank is acting as a consultant in this process. Perhaps Frank believes Tim was being foolish. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,361 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 11:10:04 AM  L.C. wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Yes the Rice offer is fiction and the AD knew it because she was made aware of it. ... If it was fiction, why did you even bring it up? My guess is that someone isn't sure of the definition of "fiction". Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,534 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 12:10:30 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: SBH wrote: The Rice offer? Is this fiction? Put yourself in the shoes of the AD, who has a very tight budget and must be concerned with the optics of putting lots of money into coaches' wallets. If, as you say, the renegotiation began in June of 2024, would you have been inclined to give Albin a major increase in the wake of him losing one-third of his team - and 80% of his offensive production - to the portal? Does he not bear ANY responsibility for these losses? Why did Miami not experience the same? Would it have made sense to give him a major increase after losing at Syracuse? After an embarrassing loss to Kentucky? The no-show at Miami? There would have been an outcry in every case. Yes the Rice offer is fiction and the AD knew it because she was made aware of it. He wasn’t flying all over the country. Some universities will even travel to meet you for an interview if they want you to coach for that institution. The guy wasn’t all about money because Rice would have paid him way more than he would make in Athens or Charlotte. Just face the facts if you are a Ohio University football supporter or fan you just lost the best coach in the MAC. You also lost everything that Frank Solich built in the last 20 years. You can thank the administration. It looks like there may be truth on both sides of the argument here. The administration didn't act in a timely manner according to Tim's perception of an appropriate timeline. However, many universities this year did wait until after the regular season to renegotiate contracts, so Tim's expectations may have been skewed. Having said that, it seems that Cromer may have been tone deaf to the vibes that Tim was apparently giving off about his feeling disrespected. Surely, by the time we were preparing for the MACC she could have given him some reassurance that a new enhanced contract would be negotiated after the game. Bottom line is, what we may have had here was a "failure to communicate." Unless, of course, this was all intentional on Cromer's part. It wouldn't be the first time an AD has decided against all evidence to the contrary that she (or he) wanted to bring in their own guy. Just ask Frank Solich about that. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 12:16:58 PM  OCF: The actual series of events counters your argument. Tim WAS told they would make a counter offer...and do it prior to MACC. Julie Cromer WAS NOT told that Tim had already signed a contract several days earlier. I guess he assumed Ohio wouldn't come close to the Charlotte offer. He was wrong. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,534 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 12:36:45 PM  SBH wrote: OCF: The actual series of events counters your argument. Tim WAS told they would make a counter offer...and do it prior to MACC. Julie Cromer WAS NOT told that Tim had already signed a contract several days earlier. I guess he assumed Ohio wouldn't come close to the Charlotte offer. He was wrong. I was trying to reconcile what Bobcat1996 said with other reported information. Assuming your information is correct, and I have no reason to doubt that it is, do you think Cromer should have been more detailed about the possible level of a raise that they were considering? It does seem that somewhere along the line, Tim did feel "disrespected" by the process. Tim might have been overly sensitive, but a good AD would have sensed that and acted accordingly, I would have thought. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 12:45:53 PM  I suspect the only person who was truly "disrespected" in this process was TA's agent. Maybe he was known to Julie and is a buffoon/blowhard. Maybe he had been disrespectful towards her in past meetings. Perhaps it's university policy to not negotiate with intermediaries unless they are legal counsel. We may never know. As for the amount of the offer, Julie C. has long been aware of faculty sensitivities regarding coaches' salaries and all things ICA. Maybe President Gonzalez said she'd take the heat and came up with more money than Julie (and TA) expected. Too bad Tim had already signed elsewhere. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,534 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 1:03:20 PM  SBH wrote: I suspect the only person who was truly "disrespected" in this process was TA's agent. Maybe he was known to Julie and is a buffoon/blowhard. Maybe he had been disrespectful towards her in past meetings. Perhaps it's university policy to not negotiate with intermediaries unless they are legal counsel. We may never know. As for the amount of the offer, Julie C. has long been aware of faculty sensitivities regarding coaches' salaries and all things ICA. Maybe President Gonzalez said she'd take the heat and came up with more money than Julie (and TA) expected. Too bad Tim had already signed elsewhere. It does seem strange to me that a coach would hire an agent for an internal negotiation with his current school. Maybe this is common these days, but I don't like the concept. If Tim was refusing to communicate directly with his own boss but insisting that all communication would be through his agent, that would put the onus for this train wreck on Albin, IMHO. Regardless of what actually happened, if Cromer doesn't hire a good football coach, it could be the beginning of the end of her tenure at OHIO. Possibility of a Shakespearean tragedy ending still seems possible to me. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,051 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 2:01:12 PM  Fiction: something that is invented or untrue Non Fiction: something based on facts, actual events, or real people Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 6:36:57 PM  I’m thrilled we are out of the Amateur Pastor Brooke Albin business…..see ya Nutjob. Liberty might be a better fit for that Kook. Back to Top KC Bobcat General User Member Since: 11/22/2006 Location: Norfolk, VA Post Count: 260 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 6:38:35 PM  Why aren’t there tampering rules? OUr coach has a championship and bowl game to prepare for. You can talk to him after the mission is accomplished. Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 6:42:28 PM  What Sankey wants, Sankey gets …. And Steinbrecher bends over and takes it. Hell, in this case Navarez and Pernetti bent him over. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,333 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 6:58:24 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: It does seem strange to me that a coach would hire an agent for an internal negotiation with his current school. Maybe this is common these days, but I don't like the concept. Wait what? Why would you NOT want an agent for this type of negotiation? And yes this is a common practice among football coaches making millions of dollars. Jimmie Sexton has made a nice name for himself in the SEC. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,534 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/16/2024 11:41:05 PM  GoCats105 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It does seem strange to me that a coach would hire an agent for an internal negotiation with his current school. Maybe this is common these days, but I don't like the concept. Wait what? Why would you NOT want an agent for this type of negotiation? And yes this is a common practice among football coaches making millions of dollars. Jimmie Sexton has made a nice name for himself in the SEC. Well, that's not a positive move. I can see an agent when you are negotiating with a new employer, but with your current employer it appears to me to be a tad ridiculous. What percentage of the raise do these agents get? Just one more piece of evidence that colleges are running minor league pro football teams, with less and less connection with anything educational. Can you image the Ohio medical school dean or engineering dean, who are also very well compensated, hiring an agent to negotiate their next salary raise with the university? There is something really out of balance here. Of course, this has been building for years as P4 coaches salaries have hit the stratosphere, but this really brings it close to home. Sorry that I'm sounding like giacomo here, but he was carving out a different standard for OHIO and the P4. IMHO, the standard ought to be the same. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat1996 General User Member Since: 1/2/2017 Post Count: 1,009 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:15:15 PM  Bottom line OCF is that this situation never should have happened!! Period! You believe these other people who are anti Coach Albin if you want. The truth is the man was not treated with the respect and value he deserved. The AD was aware of the Rice interview and how much they offered several days before the Ball State game. She kept putting off contract talks to Coach Albin. She knew that other schools were interested. The Rice offer was twice the pay of what Ohio paid him, but he turned it down because they wanted him immediately. Name another school that has achieved the success the Bobcats have achieved the last three seasons in the conference. Name another coach at Ohio that accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished the last three seasons in winning ten games. I realize this is 2024 and schools play more games than they did 60 years ago. However no coach since 1968 accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished. The sad thing is that he wasn’t looking for a bunch more money. Look at his contract details at Charlotte. Doesn’t it seem odd that a 20 year employee would leave for just slightly more money for himself. Coach Albin was the sixth highest paid conference coach in October of 2024. Do you think that was fair? How in the world would Ohio allow Albin to be paid less than a new coach at WMU and Buffalo? Total lack of respect!! This administration knew before the Ball St game what they needed to do, but they kept stalling and it came back to bite them. The AD is responsible for this mess! As I have mentioned before if this was an SEC or Big 10 school, the AD would be held responsible!!! For crying out loud the agent wasn’t even permitted in the room. Why have an agent if they aren’t allowed in contract talks? This is a total mess that is all on our administration!!! Last Edited: 12/17/2024 3:17:47 PM by Bobcat1996 Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:19:49 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: Coach Albin was the sixth highest paid conference coach in October of 2024. Do you think that was fair? You bet your sweet ass I do. I had just watched them commit Coaching Malpractice in Syracuse....have the defense completely quit in Lexington....and get smoked by Miami in Oxford. If I were Cromer, I would have lobbied to make him the 12th highest paid coach in the conference at that time....2 years removed from a 3-9 campaign with a loss to Duquesne at home for god's sake. Sure, he got hot against a very weak MAC....but let's not turn the guy into the second coming of Vince Lombardi when he's a hell of a lot closer to Wayne Fontes. Back to Top Laten007 General User Member Since: 12/8/2024 Post Count: 14 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:26:28 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: Bottom line OCF is that this situation never should have happened!! Period! You believe these other people who are anti Coach Albin if you want. The truth is the man was not treated with the respect and value he deserved. The AD was aware of the Rice interview and how much they offered several days before the Ball State game. She kept putting off contract talks to Coach Albin. She knew that other schools were interested. The Rice offer was twice the pay of what Ohio paid him, but he turned it down because they wanted him immediately. Name another school that has achieved the success the Bobcats have achieved the last three seasons in the conference. Name another coach at Ohio that accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished the last three seasons in winning ten games. I realize this is 2024 and schools play more games than they did 60 years ago. However no coach since 1968 accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished. The sad thing is that he wasn’t looking for a bunch more money. Look at his contract details at Charlotte. Doesn’t it seem odd that a 20 year employee would leave for just slightly more money for himself. Coach Albin was the sixth highest paid conference coach in October of 2024. Do you think that was fair? How in the world would Ohio allow Albin to be paid less than a new coach at WMU and Buffalo? Total lack of respect!! This administration knew before the Ball St game what they needed to do, but they kept stalling and it came back to bite them. The AD is responsible for this mess! As I have mentioned before if this was an SEC or Big 10 school, the AD would be held responsible!!! For crying out loud the agent wasn’t even permitted in the room. Why have an agent if they aren’t allowed in contract talks? This is a total mess that is all on our administration!!! Bingo!!! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,333 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:27:14 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Its been over a week since Albin departed Athens ,and not a word on the coaching search or a replacement. Our federal government should be as good with "radio silence". I just hope O.U. is giving the coaching search the appropriate priority. Schools don't formerly announce that a job is open and that they have a list of candidates they're looking at and then list them 1, 2, 3 and 4. That's not how this works. They probably have a talent search firm on speed dial and they use that firm's results. But all of that is done behind closed doors. Next thing that would blow your mind is these negotiations rarely happen on the campus of said university. They're probably meeting in Columbus, actually. Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:30:01 PM  Laten007 wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Bottom line OCF is that this situation never should have happened!! Period! You believe these other people who are anti Coach Albin if you want. The truth is the man was not treated with the respect and value he deserved. The AD was aware of the Rice interview and how much they offered several days before the Ball State game. She kept putting off contract talks to Coach Albin. She knew that other schools were interested. The Rice offer was twice the pay of what Ohio paid him, but he turned it down because they wanted him immediately. Name another school that has achieved the success the Bobcats have achieved the last three seasons in the conference. Name another coach at Ohio that accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished the last three seasons in winning ten games. I realize this is 2024 and schools play more games than they did 60 years ago. However no coach since 1968 accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished. The sad thing is that he wasn’t looking for a bunch more money. Look at his contract details at Charlotte. Doesn’t it seem odd that a 20 year employee would leave for just slightly more money for himself. Coach Albin was the sixth highest paid conference coach in October of 2024. Do you think that was fair? How in the world would Ohio allow Albin to be paid less than a new coach at WMU and Buffalo? Total lack of respect!! This administration knew before the Ball St game what they needed to do, but they kept stalling and it came back to bite them. The AD is responsible for this mess! As I have mentioned before if this was an SEC or Big 10 school, the AD would be held responsible!!! For crying out loud the agent wasn’t even permitted in the room. Why have an agent if they aren’t allowed in contract talks? This is a total mess that is all on our administration!!! Bingo!!! Hi there Brooke! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,534 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:38:07 PM  Bobcat Love wrote: Laten007 wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Bottom line OCF is that this situation never should have happened!! Period! You believe these other people who are anti Coach Albin if you want. The truth is the man was not treated with the respect and value he deserved. The AD was aware of the Rice interview and how much they offered several days before the Ball State game. She kept putting off contract talks to Coach Albin. She knew that other schools were interested. The Rice offer was twice the pay of what Ohio paid him, but he turned it down because they wanted him immediately. Name another school that has achieved the success the Bobcats have achieved the last three seasons in the conference. Name another coach at Ohio that accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished the last three seasons in winning ten games. I realize this is 2024 and schools play more games than they did 60 years ago. However no coach since 1968 accomplished what Coach Albin accomplished. The sad thing is that he wasn’t looking for a bunch more money. Look at his contract details at Charlotte. Doesn’t it seem odd that a 20 year employee would leave for just slightly more money for himself. Coach Albin was the sixth highest paid conference coach in October of 2024. Do you think that was fair? How in the world would Ohio allow Albin to be paid less than a new coach at WMU and Buffalo? Total lack of respect!! This administration knew before the Ball St game what they needed to do, but they kept stalling and it came back to bite them. The AD is responsible for this mess! As I have mentioned before if this was an SEC or Big 10 school, the AD would be held responsible!!! For crying out loud the agent wasn’t even permitted in the room. Why have an agent if they aren’t allowed in contract talks? This is a total mess that is all on our administration!!! Bingo!!! Hi there Brooke! I went from thinking I knew what happened to having no idea what or who to believe. All I know for sure now is that it was a really messed up process and regardless of the actual facts the burden is on the AD, and if we end up with a program that's going downhill next year, it's her fault. She's in charge of the department. If things look rosy, she gets the credit. If things go south, she gets the blame. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,577 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:38:57 PM  GoCats105 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Its been over a week since Albin departed Athens ,and not a word on the coaching search or a replacement. Our federal government should be as good with "radio silence". I just hope O.U. is giving the coaching search the appropriate priority. Schools don't formerly announce that a job is open and that they have a list of candidates they're looking at and then list them 1, 2, 3 and 4. That's not how this works. They probably have a talent search firm on speed dial and they use that firm's results. But all of that is done behind closed doors. Next thing that would blow your mind is these negotiations rarely happen on the campus of said university. They're probably meeting in Columbus, actually. Our former AD, Jim Schaus ,used to keep an updated list of available coaches and their phone numbers in all sports. If a coach left O.U. ,he was on the phone. I may be wrong, but based on what's going on with the football coaching situation, JC doesn't seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to O.U. athletics. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:42:22 PM  rpbobcat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Its been over a week since Albin departed Athens ,and not a word on the coaching search or a replacement. Our federal government should be as good with "radio silence". I just hope O.U. is giving the coaching search the appropriate priority. Schools don't formerly announce that a job is open and that they have a list of candidates they're looking at and then list them 1, 2, 3 and 4. That's not how this works. They probably have a talent search firm on speed dial and they use that firm's results. But all of that is done behind closed doors. Next thing that would blow your mind is these negotiations rarely happen on the campus of said university. They're probably meeting in Columbus, actually. Our former AD, Jim Schaus ,used to keep an updated list of available coaches and their phone numbers in all sports. If a coach left O.U. ,he was on the phone. I may be wrong, but based on what's going on with the football coaching situation, JC doesn't seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to O.U. athletics. It’s been 10 days. Albin was announced 20 days after their coach was fired. Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Fire Julie    Posted: 12/17/2024 3:51:29 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: rpbobcat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Its been over a week since Albin departed Athens ,and not a word on the coaching search or a replacement. Our federal government should be as good with "radio silence". I just hope O.U. is giving the coaching search the appropriate priority. Schools don't formerly announce that a job is open and that they have a list of candidates they're looking at and then list them 1, 2, 3 and 4. That's not how this works. They probably have a talent search firm on speed dial and they use that firm's results. But all of that is done behind closed doors. Next thing that would blow your mind is these negotiations rarely happen on the campus of said university. They're probably meeting in Columbus, actually. Our former AD, Jim Schaus ,used to keep an updated list of available coaches and their phone numbers in all sports. If a coach left O.U. ,he was on the phone. I may be wrong, but based on what's going on with the football coaching situation, JC doesn't seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to O.U. athletics. It’s been 10 days. Albin was announced 20 days after their coach was fired. Factual about Schaus. He had Christian and Saul hand picked within days of Groce and Christian's departures, and I'm sure he knew where the Athens Mafia wanted their bread buttered by bringing back Boals as soon as he fired Saul and jumped for his new job at the Southern Conference. On the flip side, Kirby Joke-Cut couldn't find his pockets unless he was playing pocket pool. In reality, as we look at the Brooke Albin situation -> Julie probably should have seen this coming, and been ready to close a deal quicker than in 10 days. As the Nike Athletic Director of the Year (yep, that's a real thing), I would expect a little swifter movement and a big rolodex. Sidenote - can we quit with the made up awards already? I'm dying to know the requirements to win that Atheletic Director of the Year award....be as subservient as possible to Greg Sankey and Tony Pettiti so that you don't dare try and improve your national standing? WINNER. Back to Top Showing Replies:   126 - 150  of 167 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 210 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 210 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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