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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  If Recruiting rankings actually were accurate...
   Posted: 7/26/2019 9:37:45 PM 
Based strictly on the Recruiting ranking points for the time period 2015-19, the projected order of finish this year would be:
1. WMU
2. Toledo
3. Miami
4. NIU
5. BG
6. CMU
7. Ball State
8. Ohio
9. EMU
10. Buffalo
11. Kent
12. Akron

The top 4 teams are all projected to do well, but so are teams rated 8-10. The recruiting rankings aren't totally wrong, but neither are they perfect.

It's always important to remember that the recruiting services put a lot more emphasis on accuracy of the 4 and 5 star players, and the upper 3 star players than they do for the lower 3 star and the 2 star players. The fans of teams like Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State are the ones that subscribe to the services, not the fans from the MAC, so they focus their efforts on the very best players.

Last Edited: 7/27/2019 10:33:23 AM by L.C.


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Buck.Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: If Recruiting rankings actually were accurate...
   Posted: 7/27/2019 8:23:40 AM 
L.C. wrote:
The projected order of finish this year would be:
1. WMU
2. Toledo
3. Miami
4. NIU
5. BG
6. CMU
7. Ball State
8. Ohio
9. EMU
10. Buffalo
11. Kent
12. Akron

The top 4 teams are all projected to do well, but so are teams rated 8-10. The recruiting rankings aren't totally wrong, but neither are they perfect.

It's always important to remember that the recruiting services put a lot more emphasis on accuracy of the 4 and 5 star players, and the upper 3 star players than they do for the lower 3 star and the 2 star players. The fans of teams like Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State are the ones that subscribe to the services, not the fans from the MAC, so they focus their efforts on the very best players.


In your opinion, which in this case is inaccurate and baseless. Fans from all the conferences subscribe, schools from a conference like the SEC just have more fans compared to the MAC.

As far as rankings last year, OU was probably the 4th or 5th best team in the MAC and in the bottom 100 in the nation and their recruiting reflects it.
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Doc Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: If Recruiting rankings actually were accurate...
   Posted: 7/27/2019 8:51:37 AM 
One of the things that they use is number of signings.

We will have a small but impactful class.
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: If Recruiting rankings actually were accurate...
   Posted: 7/27/2019 9:18:37 AM 
Buck.Cat wrote:
...Fans from all the conferences subscribe, schools from a conference like the SEC just have more fans compared to the MAC...

You are correct about what I meant to say. I did not mean to say that no fans at all subscribe from the MAC. I meant that the vast majority of their subscriber base is from P5 Conferences, which is why the vast majority of their coverage goes to P5 recruiting.

Buck.Cat wrote:
...As far as rankings last year, OU was probably the 4th or 5th best team in the MAC and in the bottom 100 in the nation and their recruiting reflects it.

What ratings are you using? I did a search, and here are a few random ratings
Sagarin had Ohio #55 in the country, #1 in the MAC
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin /
Massey had Ohio #64 in the country, #1 in the MAC
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
herosports had Ohio #61 in the country, 2d to NIU
https://herosports.com/college-football/college-football-...

Doc Bobcat wrote:
One of the things that they use is number of signings.

We will have a small but impactful class.

Correct, and not all schools give out the same number of scholarships. Schools that do a lot of walkons give less. Schools that recruit a lot of JUCO players show more recruits. Schools that take a lot of transfers tend to show less because incoming transfers often don't show at all. Here are the numbers of scholarships given out by each MAC school over from 2015-19:

EMU 125 (They do a high number of JUCO players, so you expect a high number)
Miami, NIU 114
WMU 112
Ball St 110
Toledo 107
Ohio 106
BG 100
Kent 99
CMU 98
Buffalo 95
Akron 80 (This seems way low, but partly is low due to a high number of transfers)

Last Edited: 7/27/2019 10:07:08 AM by L.C.


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