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greencat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/11/2024 12:51:26 PM 
My daughter's band had more trophies in a school of 2000 kids than all other sports combined including a state championship in baseball. There were concert t-shirts and merch for that "Wicked" show. Yes, it took an 18-wheeler to haul the gear to competitions but nobody complained as it was a major source of pride in that community. I see nothing wrong with that.

If it's any consolation, when those two band directors left the program became a shadow of it's former self.

I apologize for saying they finished #6 in the nation, they were #8...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMqJZP-PdBU

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My little daughter is the flute player in the pink shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZZjzc5xws

They ran out of room for trophies in the band room and built extra trophy cases for the hallway of the school.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/12/2024 9:11:36 AM 
Morgan State had Akron beat last year and literally handed them the game with a fumble returned for a TD in the final minute. I know Akron kinda sucked last year, but I'm channeling my inner-McKinney on this one and could see it not being as comfortable as we plan.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/12/2024 9:17:06 AM 
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Injuries could be a real issue for this game despite the opponent not being a D1 team.





71 BOBCAT


I hope our situation isn't so dire we're in danger of losing to a team that lost 14-9 to Towson.

I have different thoughts about these games, most want to see the back-ups to the back-ups, I want to see us hang 70 on them and iron out as much of the playbook as possible heading into Kentucky and MAC play.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/12/2024 11:54:33 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Injuries could be a real issue for this game despite the opponent not being a D1 team.





71 BOBCAT


I hope our situation isn't so dire we're in danger of losing to a team that lost 14-9 to Towson.

I have different thoughts about these games, most want to see the back-ups to the back-ups, I want to see us hang 70 on them and iron out as much of the playbook as possible heading into Kentucky and MAC play.


FWIW, Sagarin rates Morgan at 223, similar to Fordham and Duquesne -- which both lost badly to MAC teams in Week 1 -- and Colgate -- which plays Akron this week. Towson is at 174. Ohio is at 110 (no relationship to the band).


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 11:17:32 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Injuries could be a real issue for this game despite the opponent not being a D1 team.





71 BOBCAT


I hope our situation isn't so dire we're in danger of losing to a team that lost 14-9 to Towson.

I have different thoughts about these games, most want to see the back-ups to the back-ups, I want to see us hang 70 on them and iron out as much of the playbook as possible heading into Kentucky and MAC play.


FWIW, Sagarin rates Morgan at 223, similar to Fordham and Duquesne -- which both lost badly to MAC teams in Week 1 -- and Colgate -- which plays Akron this week. Towson is at 174. Ohio is at 110 (no relationship to the band).



We're 110 out of 133? LOL OUCH.

I'm as cynical (realist) as they come, but REALLY.

These dumb rankings I shouldn't care about always make me more upset knowing we could've stolen a win from everyones new darling (my preseason darling) Syracuse.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 3:58:39 PM 
Sagrin?

The team that lost at home to NIU he still has ranked in the top ten.

The team that lost at home to the team beaten by NIU he still has in the top 20.

He has VaTech at #48 even though they got beat by a team he has at #83

etc etc etc

I'm starting to think he is not a reliable source.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 4:55:12 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Injuries could be a real issue for this game despite the opponent not being a D1 team.





71 BOBCAT


I hope our situation isn't so dire we're in danger of losing to a team that lost 14-9 to Towson.

I have different thoughts about these games, most want to see the back-ups to the back-ups, I want to see us hang 70 on them and iron out as much of the playbook as possible heading into Kentucky and MAC play.


FWIW, Sagarin rates Morgan at 223, similar to Fordham and Duquesne -- which both lost badly to MAC teams in Week 1 -- and Colgate -- which plays Akron this week. Towson is at 174. Ohio is at 110 (no relationship to the band).



We're 110 out of 133? LOL OUCH.

I'm as cynical (realist) as they come, but REALLY.

These dumb rankings I shouldn't care about always make me more upset knowing we could've stolen a win from everyones new darling (my preseason darling) Syracuse.


Sagarin rates all of D1, including 1AA/FCS. So we're 110 out of 263.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 5:28:11 PM 
One thing Morgan has been able to do is hang onto the ball. No TOs in their first two games, while getting two INTs. Our D needs to step up and create turnovers.


We should be able to get to their QB. They've given up nine sacks in two games,tied for 108th in their subdivision. We've given up six, so that needs to improve.


We will get by.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 8:06:38 PM 
I'm glad this thread is about football rather than the 110. I was confused. I too would like to see Poulus get some reps in the second. And the team avoid further injuries. If
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 8:08:21 PM 
Forgive me Poulas.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 8:10:09 PM 
I'm glad this thread is about football rather than the 110. I was confused. I too would like to see Poulas get some reps in the second. And the team avoid further injuries. If

Last Edited: 9/13/2024 8:11:13 PM by randy

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/13/2024 8:44:52 PM 

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 8:06:06 AM 
greencat wrote:
Sagrin?

The team that lost at home to NIU he still has ranked in the top ten.

The team that lost at home to the team beaten by NIU he still has in the top 20.

He has VaTech at #48 even though they got beat by a team he has at #83

etc etc etc

I'm starting to think he is not a reliable source.

I'm not an expert in Sagarin, or any other rating system, but I am aware of the core problem. Keep in mind that we have only 2 weeks of data. It takes 5-6 weeks before all the teams are interconnected. If you limit a rating system to just the data, after week 1, you'd have only two groups, ones that won, and ones that lost, with no way to differentiate the teams in the "won" group, especially since the rules for numerical polls say that they aren't supposed to use the final point spread, because using the point spread would encourage teams to run up the score.

Some ratings systems deal with this by not releasing any ratings at all for about 5-6 weeks. Others deal with it by starting the season with a rating system based on preconceived notions, such as last years results, preseason magazine predictions, or whatever. Then, as actual results come in, they blend the results into the the preseason prediction numbers. After 5-6 weeks, the preseason preconceived numbers are no longer a part of the rating system, but yes, it does take fully 5-6 weeks to get to that result.

Sagarin is in the latter group. They used to be in USA Today, who expected a "Sagarin Poll" to be published each week of the season, so they couldn't just sit at wait for enough data for real results. They had to publish numbers every week, even after just 1-2 games. Are they of any value? That's for you to decide. At this point, probably 70% of the number is based on preseason predictions, and 30% is based on the 2 weeks of data that they have. After week 3, it will probably be 50% on real data, 50% preconceived notions. By week six, all numbers will be solely based on actual results.

The point here is, when you look at numerical polls, whether Sagarin, or some other one, don't expect them to be meaningful during the first 5-6 weeks. They simply don't have enough data yet. In time they will, but not yet...

Last Edited: 9/14/2024 8:17:44 AM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 3:44:40 PM 
The green uniforms are so clean.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 3:49:05 PM 
What a drive.

What offense is this?? Tyus with an absolute grab out there for a TD.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 3:49:47 PM 
That was a cool trick play.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:15:29 PM 
Running a trick play and a surprise onside kick against an FCS team feels a little rude. lol
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   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:19:34 PM 
Morris Mound wrote:
Running a trick play and a surprise onside kick against an FCS team feels a little rude. lol


I like Navarro. However, I'd prefer that he throws the deep ball just enough to keep teams on their toes.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:38:13 PM 
8 total yards in the 2nd quarter.
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   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:42:21 PM 
Parker looks like me playing EA College Football out there. Making the decision to throw it on the RPO 20 minutes before the play starts.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:43:39 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
8 total yards in the 2nd quarter.


Wow. It’s going to be a long season if we don’t get a lot of guys back quick. Some good plays, but not enough to look consistent.
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   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:44:22 PM 
Two dumb personal foul penalties for CJ Doggette in back-to-back weeks.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:45:02 PM 
Send Doggette back to Cincy. Dude makes boneheaded plays.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:47:11 PM 
So much for playing our second and third string guys in this one. Or maybe we should if we have any left.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 3 Thread: Morgan St.
   Posted: 9/14/2024 4:48:07 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
Injuries could be a real issue for this game despite the opponent not being a D1 team.





71 BOBCAT


I hope our situation isn't so dire we're in danger of losing to a team that lost 14-9 to Towson.

I have different thoughts about these games, most want to see the back-ups to the back-ups, I want to see us hang 70 on them and iron out as much of the playbook as possible heading into Kentucky and MAC play.


This didn’t age well
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