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Topic:  Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)

Topic:  Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/15/2020 2:54:12 PM 

 
 
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Interesting Topic shown on Twitter from a Kentucky media's Matt Jones:

https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1250233804075282434

I'm surprised by the numbers a little -- 45% said yes, which lends me to wonder what this group would say with the same question as it relates to Ohio Football. So using almost his exact words:


If Ohio Football plays its first game on Labor Day Weekend and we still don’t have a vaccine for Coronavirus, would you go to the game?

Let’s assume it is crowded like a normal game, no social distancing, etc....normal game experience, tailgating, etc.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/15/2020 3:50:47 PM 
It depends on if baseball resumes with fans this summer and cases trend back upward.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/15/2020 4:43:26 PM 
I would have a better chance of being injured in a car crash on the way to the game than getting infected by a virus that many experts say has a shelf life of about 4-6 weeks. Italy, Germany and Denmark are beginning to open up next week. Sweden never did shut down and they are having their normal flu season death rate. We are around 7,500 cases in Ohio and looking at the data it seems unlikely we will get much above 10,000 out of almost 12,000,000 Ohioans. I wasn't a math major, but isn't that less than .1%? When will this mass hysteria end? I will be at the home opener and hopefully many sporting events before that one as well.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 9:34:23 AM 
I would think if football is being played across the country with fans allowed to attend, then there would be a pretty good consensus that it's safe to do so, though I'm sure there always will be some who disagree. I'm not sure if football will play on time, but I don't think it will be played and fans allowed to attend if it's more than a slightly possibility that it's not safe.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 9:56:23 AM 
I hope to.


"All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 10:17:00 AM 
If these nut cases have their way, we'll be able to attend summer conditioning. Scrool down. The zombie picture is priceless.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/shutdown-protest-zombie-mo...

At the end of the day, it's going to be a matter of confidence. As this article clearly states, we have a very long way to go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/coronavirus-testing...

Last Edited: 4/16/2020 10:23:02 AM by Alan Swank

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Kevin Finnegan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 10:39:33 AM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
I would have a better chance of being injured in a car crash on the way to the game than getting infected by a virus that many experts say has a shelf life of about 4-6 weeks. Italy, Germany and Denmark are beginning to open up next week. Sweden never did shut down and they are having their normal flu season death rate. We are around 7,500 cases in Ohio and looking at the data it seems unlikely we will get much above 10,000 out of almost 12,000,000 Ohioans. I wasn't a math major, but isn't that less than .1%? When will this mass hysteria end? I will be at the home opener and hopefully many sporting events before that one as well.


So, what you're mis-stating is the difference between confirmed cases and actual cases. A recent antibody study in a German town (Gangelt) found that 15% of the community had been infected and that 2% were currently infected. So, I don't believe that Ohio has only 7,500 cases, only that those are the confirmed cases. I don't see any reason to believe that the number would be much different than that in Germany, and may be higher in cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus (as cities with their population density are much higher risk). Those numbers would put at 240,000 currently infected in Ohio if on par with the German study, and 1.8 million in the state with antibodies.

So, no, you're not more likely to be in a car accident than being infected. You may, however, be just as likely of dying in a car accident as you would be of dying from the disease. That's where the question of reaction really is. If our infection rate really is close to 15-20%, but we are accurately reporting deaths (or at least closely reporting them), then the mortality rate may be closer to .3%, much lower than the originally reported 3%. This is where the questions remain.

The scary report today is that 140 South Koreans are reporting a reoccurrence of the disease. This seems to question the belief that immunity is gained by having been cured of the disease.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 11:52:36 AM 
Kevin Finnegan wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
I would have a better chance of being injured in a car crash on the way to the game than getting infected by a virus that many experts say has a shelf life of about 4-6 weeks. Italy, Germany and Denmark are beginning to open up next week. Sweden never did shut down and they are having their normal flu season death rate. We are around 7,500 cases in Ohio and looking at the data it seems unlikely we will get much above 10,000 out of almost 12,000,000 Ohioans. I wasn't a math major, but isn't that less than .1%? When will this mass hysteria end? I will be at the home opener and hopefully many sporting events before that one as well.


So, what you're mis-stating is the difference between confirmed cases and actual cases. A recent antibody study in a German town (Gangelt) found that 15% of the community had been infected and that 2% were currently infected. So, I don't believe that Ohio has only 7,500 cases, only that those are the confirmed cases. I don't see any reason to believe that the number would be much different than that in Germany, and may be higher in cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus (as cities with their population density are much higher risk). Those numbers would put at 240,000 currently infected in Ohio if on par with the German study, and 1.8 million in the state with antibodies.

So, no, you're not more likely to be in a car accident than being infected. You may, however, be just as likely of dying in a car accident as you would be of dying from the disease. That's where the question of reaction really is. If our infection rate really is close to 15-20%, but we are accurately reporting deaths (or at least closely reporting them), then the mortality rate may be closer to .3%, much lower than the originally reported 3%. This is where the questions remain.

The scary report today is that 140 South Koreans are reporting a reoccurrence of the disease. This seems to question the belief that immunity is gained by having been cured of the disease.


Also, if YOU happen to be among the 0.1%, it's a big deal. I've heard many who had the virus but survived say it was the worst experience of their lives. That's why responsible health officials have been trying to flatten the curve. Health systems in many areas have been overwhelmed even with stay-at-home orders. Without them, there would likely be a lot more people suffering and maybe even dying.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Poll: Will you go to the first home game? (see the details)
   Posted: 4/16/2020 12:20:57 PM 
Kevin Finnegan wrote:

So, what you're mis-stating is the difference between confirmed cases and actual cases.


Plus with the pathetic testing practices in the US - the number of actual cases is understated. 30,000 of our neighbors have died - even with the "draconian" stay at home policies. This survey will be better served after the initial openings take place (with little flooding to establishments) and yet significant spikes are still realized. I consult to the hospitality industry. Anyone who thinks a declaration of "the economy is open" is going to unleash the retail and hospitality industries is mistaken. Little will change until we have comprehensive, fast, and effective testing.

At the least, I suspect we will be required to have our temperature taken as we enter stadiums this fall - same time as they frisk us for weapons.
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