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At worst Coach Smith is going to go 7-6 his first year. There really isn't an apples to apples comparison possible. Probably the closest I can come up with is this: 1. In his first year as Ohio head coach, Albin was 3-9. Since 2020 wasn't really a season, we can compare it to 2019, when Ohio was 7-6, so call it -3.5 (4 less wins, 3 more losses). 2. In his first year at Charlotte, Albin will almost certainly finish 1-11, down from 5-7 last year. Call that -4. 3. In his first year at Ohio, Smith could end up anywhere from 7-6 to 10-4, down from 11-3. That could be anywhere from -3.5 (4 less wins, 3 more losses) to -1. Both have some dropoff in their first year, but hopefully both drops will be short-lived. I think Smith and Albin are both fine coaches, and I hope both have a better 2d year than first year. Now, back to the task at hand. Beat Buffalo, and hope the tiebreakers shake out in a good way, and win all remaining games. Albin was also head coach for a month before the season started, did not get to hire his own staff and had two who had mailed it in knowing they were retiring. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,584 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/21/2025 4:27:51 PM  Smith may want to make changes after his first year, too, or Albin may, at Charlotte. Either way, I expect both to do better their second year than their first. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,948 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/21/2025 5:50:51 PM  I'm pretty sure Smith already has more wins than any first-year Ohio coach since the 1800s. We're also three scores from being second behind JMU (based on SoS) in the playoff picture. Just FYI. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,584 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/21/2025 11:10:24 PM  That's ironic, considering that Ohio may not even make the MACC game. I wonder if they would have made the playoffs, had they beaten Ball State and WMU? “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,948 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/21/2025 11:32:04 PM  L.C. wrote: That's ironic, considering that Ohio may not even make the MACC game. I wonder if they would have made the playoffs, had they beaten Ball State and WMU? Probably not. But those two plus Rutgers would've put them in a position to advance if JMU faltered. We would also have to win the next two, which are no givens. All of this came or comes down to play or two. Missed kick here, etc. very close to special season. Every loss so far except OSU by 6 points or less. Not hard to fathom sitting at 10-1 right now. Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 307 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/22/2025 3:45:53 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: L.C. wrote: That's ironic, considering that Ohio may not even make the MACC game. I wonder if they would have made the playoffs, had they beaten Ball State and WMU? Probably not. But those two plus Rutgers would've put them in a position to advance if JMU faltered. We would also have to win the next two, which are no givens. All of this came or comes down to play or two. Missed kick here, etc. very close to special season. Every loss so far except OSU by 6 points or less. Not hard to fathom sitting at 10-1 right now. ^ What you just described is one part of why this season kinda hurts. 1 or 2 plays away from winning games, or in the case of the game at Ball State, if that 2nd Half wasn't a collapse. Lack of execution held this team back from what they could've realized. I'm echoing what others are saying here. Back to Top Bobcat1996 General User Member Since: 1/2/2017 Post Count: 1,147 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/22/2025 7:09:47 PM  Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Last Edited: 11/22/2025 7:15:13 PM by Bobcat1996 Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,674 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/22/2025 10:30:53 PM  Interesting stat of the night with a Charlotte flavor: Charlotte's kicker last year was one of only 2 in the nation without a missed attempt, FGA and XPA. He transferred to Cincinnati and has been money for UC this season until night v. BYU on national TV, missing on 3 FGA through the first 3 qtrs. Back to Top mid70sbobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 786 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/22/2025 10:31:56 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Not to be disrespectful but "Put up, or shut up". You have posted 1,218 times the same stuff. So please tell us all WHY he is in Charlotte. And I'll bet my last dollar you do not know Julie Cromer at all. Your third hand info is just that. My belief is they have better veterinary clinics in Charlotte and that is why he left. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,584 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/23/2025 9:06:14 AM  bobcatsquared wrote: Interesting stat of the night with a Charlotte flavor: Charlotte's kicker last year was one of only 2 in the nation without a missed attempt, FGA and XPA. He transferred to Cincinnati and has been money for UC this season until night v. BYU on national TV, missing on 3 FGA through the first 3 qtrs. In the same vein, Nebraska also has a former Charlotte kicker, their backup kicker last year. He has been 42-42 on extra points, and 11-11 under 40 yards, plus 2-5 over 40. In the opening game of the year, Cincinnati at Nebraska, there wasn't a missed kick on either side. Isn't the portal wonderful? Get a good kicker like Spetic, and he's gone for big bucks. Get two, like Charlotte had, and both are gone for big bucks. But, find a kicker like Peacock, and he probably won't be going anywhere near the portal.... “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,584 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/23/2025 9:08:30 AM  Bobcat1996 wrote: I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. ... Even if he disliked Cromer intensely, he may regret not having more patience. Cromer was never going to be at Ohio long, and he could easily have outlasted her. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,478 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/24/2025 8:59:58 AM  STVCastle wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: L.C. wrote: That's ironic, considering that Ohio may not even make the MACC game. I wonder if they would have made the playoffs, had they beaten Ball State and WMU? Probably not. But those two plus Rutgers would've put them in a position to advance if JMU faltered. We would also have to win the next two, which are no givens. All of this came or comes down to play or two. Missed kick here, etc. very close to special season. Every loss so far except OSU by 6 points or less. Not hard to fathom sitting at 10-1 right now. ^ What you just described is one part of why this season kinda hurts. 1 or 2 plays away from winning games, or in the case of the game at Ball State, if that 2nd Half wasn't a collapse. Lack of execution held this team back from what they could've realized. I'm echoing what others are saying here. I get it, I play this game mentally too. But you have to also consider the same in reverse with WVU & Miami wins. Even BG & EMU we could've blown. I just don't feel like this team was on the brink of greatness. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,744 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/24/2025 10:09:28 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: STVCastle wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: L.C. wrote: That's ironic, considering that Ohio may not even make the MACC game. I wonder if they would have made the playoffs, had they beaten Ball State and WMU? Probably not. But those two plus Rutgers would've put them in a position to advance if JMU faltered. We would also have to win the next two, which are no givens. All of this came or comes down to play or two. Missed kick here, etc. very close to special season. Every loss so far except OSU by 6 points or less. Not hard to fathom sitting at 10-1 right now. ^ What you just described is one part of why this season kinda hurts. 1 or 2 plays away from winning games, or in the case of the game at Ball State, if that 2nd Half wasn't a collapse. Lack of execution held this team back from what they could've realized. I'm echoing what others are saying here. I get it, I play this game mentally too. But you have to also consider the same in reverse with WVU & Miami wins. Even BG & EMU we could've blown. I just don't feel like this team was on the brink of greatness. While most on here thought we would do well this year with Parker coming back and quite a few defensive backfield returnees, we lost a lot almost everywhere else. Think of our losses in the defensive line and linebackers, running backs, wide receivers, kicking game and offensive line. Some of those holes were filled okay, others not so well. You also have to look at the coaches we lost. While some would say we came out ahead there, others might disagree. Continuity, at least, was lost. I’m pretty sure that maybe aside from the NIU game, we really didn’t play a complete game in all phases. Some might disagree with that assessment, but I really didn’t see it. While we had, I believe, 4 all MAC players who were transfers last year, we may only have one this year. I think it was a rebuilding year and if we win 8 or 9 games, that’s not too bad under the circumstances. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,297 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/24/2025 12:32:01 PM  Bobcat1996 wrote: . . . .Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. I now have a second very reliable source who confirms what the first source told me that Cromer created a very hostile work environment. This second source also added that she was not a very efficient administrator. HOWEVER, that does not excuse your buddy Albin from his very rash decision to cut bait and run. Just a little more patience, like two weeks or so, and he could have gotten, per President Gonzalez, the same at Ohio as he was offered by UNCC. You seem unable to assign any blame for this fiasco to Tim. To me this was a cut off your nose to spite your face move. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,478 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/24/2025 1:35:21 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: I get it, I play this game mentally too. But you have to also consider the same in reverse with WVU & Miami wins. Even BG & EMU we could've blown. I just don't feel like this team was on the brink of greatness. While most on here thought we would do well this year with Parker coming back and quite a few defensive backfield returnees, we lost a lot almost everywhere else. Think of our losses in the defensive line and linebackers, running backs, wide receivers, kicking game and offensive line. Some of those holes were filled okay, others not so well. You also have to look at the coaches we lost. While some would say we came out ahead there, others might disagree. Continuity, at least, was lost. I’m pretty sure that maybe aside from the NIU game, we really didn’t play a complete game in all phases. Some might disagree with that assessment, but I really didn’t see it. While we had, I believe, 4 all MAC players who were transfers last year, we may only have one this year. I think it was a rebuilding year and if we win 8 or 9 games, that’s not too bad under the circumstances. Please don't mistake my comment for saying this season was a disappointment. I agree, the results are right in line with what we could have reasonably expected. I was just saying I am not comfortable going along with a narrative that we were a couple plays away from the college football playoff. I think we are what we are, a 7 or 8 win team. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,948 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/25/2025 1:06:03 PM  Last year, we get two field goals by Spetic, one 46 yards, to beat mediocre CMU team by two points on the road. This year we lose to mediocre Ball State team by six after missing one FG and turning down two others and turning it over on downs. Last year, we get embarrassed by Miami on the road and they advance to MAC title. This year, we lose to WMU after leading in fourth quarter and they (likely) advance to MAC title. (As for JMU, they needed a 4th quarter score to beat 1-10 Georgia State and a iffy Wazzu at home.…like WVU) It's all about the clutch. Agree we are probably an 8 win team, but we were looking like that last year too until the Toledo game anyway. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,409 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/28/2025 4:13:02 PM  I'm watching the Ohio-Buffalo game and the announcers mention that Ohio is one of only 12 teams in FBS to have the same starting 5 on the offensive line the entire season. According to Bobcat1996 the non-conference schedule of three P4 teams would lead to unrecoverable injuries. Albin then was wise to book a train to Charlotte instead of enduring a murders row in Athens. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Fiami @ Peden with 25,086 fans 2023 10-7 near shutout of Iowa State @ Solich Field 2025 17-10 defeat of WVU @ Peden in front of 26,740 Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,297 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 1:25:54 AM  TWT wrote: I'm watching the Ohio-Buffalo game and the announcers mention that Ohio is one of only 12 teams in FBS to have the same starting 5 on the offensive line the entire season. According to Bobcat1996 the non-conference schedule of three P4 teams would lead to unrecoverable injuries. Albin then was wise to book a train to Charlotte instead of enduring a murders row in Athens. Not the only thing he said that made no sense! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BobcatBurner General User Member Since: 4/12/2025 Post Count: 91 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 11:29:27 AM  Bobcat1996 wrote: Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Michael — why do you continue to support the program when your friend Tim was hurt so bad. Why don’t you just continue to roam the sideline in Charlotte instead like you did this year? I am legitimately concerned for your mental wellbeing. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,948 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 3:08:50 PM  BobcatBurner wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Michael — why do you continue to support the program when your friend Tim was hurt so bad. Why don’t you just continue to roam the sideline in Charlotte instead like you did this year? I am legitimately concerned for your mental wellbeing. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,697 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 6:11:04 PM  BobcatBurner wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Michael — why do you continue to support the program when your friend Tim was hurt so bad. Why don’t you just continue to roam the sideline in Charlotte instead like you did this year? I am legitimately concerned for your mental wellbeing. I’m lost….who is Michael? Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 1,113 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 7:26:41 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: BobcatBurner wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: Big Willy wrote: Bobcat1996 wrote: STVCastle wrote: I asked this question the moment Albin left for Charlotte: "Does he really think he's stepping into a better situation there?" Now I'll ask this question again... And the obvious answer to it is "No." Some of you have ZERO idea on why Coach Albin left for Charlotte! So why don't you tell us. I have mentioned before on this message board, but many good ole boys on this message board don't want to hear why Coach Albin is now in NC. Ask the former AD who is now in Baton Rouge why Coach Albin is no longer in Athens? She won't provide the truth. This is the same AD who hired Coach Smith before Christmas 2024. Coach Smith was working without a contract until October 2024 when current AD Slade Larscheid got the deal done. This was reported by USA Today in early October 2025. Many posters think the former AD was the best thing since sliced bread. Some posters on this message board have NO clue how the former AD treated employees. Michael — why do you continue to support the program when your friend Tim was hurt so bad. Why don’t you just continue to roam the sideline in Charlotte instead like you did this year? I am legitimately concerned for your mental wellbeing. I’m lost….who is Michael? Michael is either a highly misogynistic man or Mrs.Albin. Back to Top lovebobcat General User Member Since: 12/23/2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 536 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/29/2025 11:47:45 PM  Hey guys, who cares Back to Top OUbobcat9092 General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Location: Fairfax, VA Post Count: 1,229 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/30/2025 1:11:34 PM  Charlotte blanked 27-0 by Tulane to finish the season 1-11. Their only win was over FCS Monmouth. Bring Back Men's Track & Field Back to Top STVCastle General User Member Since: 5/22/2025 Post Count: 307 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 11/30/2025 1:21:17 PM  At this trajectory, Albin won't last past 3 seasons at the most. But like lovebobcat said, who cares? He made his choice. Let's move on. 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