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boydhallbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 10:39:55 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
6,800 in the building on a Tuesday in this era is outstanding. Accurate? Lots of arenas across the landscape look so bad I wonder if they are only letting in friends and family due to Covid. I know IUPUI is awful, but I briefly tuned into their game last night against UIC since it was close at the end. There couldn't have been 50 people in the stands.


Still, that's tickets sold, not butts in seats.


There were at least 6,800 butts in seats. I estimated as I looked around the crowd that the attendance was around 7,000, so 6,800 is probably dead on. In addition to a nice student section there were lots of townies and other non-students there. I was totally blown away with the size of the crowd. I had expected a crowd that would be not much better than the ones over the break period. I guess the lack of pretzels was not the mass turnoff that some would have predicted! ;-)


I actually thought the townie attendance was down last night. The student turnout was unbelievable! Would love to see them have more energy, but it was awesome just seeing how many came out!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 11:01:42 AM 
boydhallbobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
6,800 in the building on a Tuesday in this era is outstanding. Accurate? Lots of arenas across the landscape look so bad I wonder if they are only letting in friends and family due to Covid. I know IUPUI is awful, but I briefly tuned into their game last night against UIC since it was close at the end. There couldn't have been 50 people in the stands.


Still, that's tickets sold, not butts in seats.


There were at least 6,800 butts in seats. I estimated as I looked around the crowd that the attendance was around 7,000, so 6,800 is probably dead on. In addition to a nice student section there were lots of townies and other non-students there. I was totally blown away with the size of the crowd. I had expected a crowd that would be not much better than the ones over the break period. I guess the lack of pretzels was not the mass turnoff that some would have predicted! ;-)


I actually thought the townie attendance was down last night. The student turnout was unbelievable! Would love to see them have more energy, but it was awesome just seeing how many came out!


I think we just need a solid student leader in the section and I'm willing to step up to the plate. I posted a little recap post in the O-Zone section if anyone would like to view and give feedback.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 11:07:22 AM 
boydhallbobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
6,800 in the building on a Tuesday in this era is outstanding. Accurate? Lots of arenas across the landscape look so bad I wonder if they are only letting in friends and family due to Covid. I know IUPUI is awful, but I briefly tuned into their game last night against UIC since it was close at the end. There couldn't have been 50 people in the stands.


Still, that's tickets sold, not butts in seats.


There were at least 6,800 butts in seats. I estimated as I looked around the crowd that the attendance was around 7,000, so 6,800 is probably dead on. In addition to a nice student section there were lots of townies and other non-students there. I was totally blown away with the size of the crowd. I had expected a crowd that would be not much better than the ones over the break period. I guess the lack of pretzels was not the mass turnoff that some would have predicted! ;-)


I actually thought the townie attendance was down last night. The student turnout was unbelievable! Would love to see them have more energy, but it was awesome just seeing how many came out!


Tuesday night is High School basketball. Many basketball fans and HS students are out due to this.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 11:52:53 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
There was a lady right behind me that has something against Carter. Every time he had the ball she kept yelling for him not to shoot.


Sounds very similar to my experience at the Kent game. Except it wasn't a lady and this "fan" would let out a loud "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" just as Carter was about to release an attempt from 3-pt. line. Loud enough that Carter had to hear it. I wasn't going to say anything and my son was intimidated by this fan sitting directly behind us.

Last Edited: 1/12/2022 11:58:05 AM by bobcatsquared

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 12:08:08 PM 
Tough game. Every win is a good win, missing a couple of previous starters.

I do have to gripe for a minute over the ESPN+ broadcast. The audio was crappy as usual, no time graphic on the screen was a bummer. Sure, at 6 or 7 dollars a month, it's a low cost option to see lots of games. But it should still have better production value. Am I being too picky here? And don't give me any of that "get off my lawn!" BS. That was already worn out ad nauseum in the gangsta rap thread.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 1:15:59 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
There was a lady right behind me that has something against Carter. Every time he had the ball she kept yelling for him not to shoot.


Sounds very similar to my experience at the Kent game. Except it wasn't a lady and this "fan" would let out a loud "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" just as Carter was about to release an attempt from 3-pt. line. Loud enough that Carter had to hear it. I wasn't going to say anything and my son was intimidated by this fan sitting directly behind us.



I saw that guy. Dashing.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 1:26:03 PM 
greencat wrote:
Tough game. Every win is a good win, missing a couple of previous starters.

I do have to gripe for a minute over the ESPN+ broadcast. The audio was crappy as usual, no time graphic on the screen was a bummer. Sure, at 6 or 7 dollars a month, it's a low cost option to see lots of games. But it should still have better production value. Am I being too picky here? And don't give me any of that "get off my lawn!" BS. That was already worn out ad nauseum in the gangsta rap thread.


It was noted by Russ/Rob that the time graphic was an issue last night. I took it as them implying that it's not a regular issue. Yes? No?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 1:52:56 PM 
Typically the graphics include the time, centered between the two teams' scores. Graphics were also missing team fouls, which I missed more than the time.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 2:36:54 PM 
Kudos to coaching staff for game plan. Called Carter's number repeatedly in first minutes to go at Reece, second on team in pts (11.7), rebounds (6.1), 3pt% (42.9) and first in fg% (55.7), knowing that he would be pulled with 2 fouls. First foul about a minute and a half into game, second foul a little over two minutes into game and he sits for the rest of the half. Picked up his third 10 seconds into second half. Game stats: 7 minutes, 3 points, 2 boards, 5 fouls. We outrebounded them by 10. Game plan, and execution, are especially key with reduced roster. This team wins a lot of different ways.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 2:52:44 PM 
GroverBall wrote:
Kudos to coaching staff for game plan. Called Carter's number repeatedly in first minutes to go at Reece, second on team in pts (11.7), rebounds (6.1), 3pt% (42.9) and first in fg% (55.7), knowing that he would be pulled with 2 fouls. First foul about a minute and a half into game, second foul a little over two minutes into game and he sits for the rest of the half. Picked up his third 10 seconds into second half. Game stats: 7 minutes, 3 points, 2 boards, 5 fouls. We outrebounded them by 10. Game plan, and execution, are especially key with reduced roster. This team wins a lot of different ways.


The Bobcats seemed to have more offense when Reece was actually on the floor--seems like they went stale when he sat just when they should have started blowing it open. Wasn't he the one who tried a coast to coast slam only to miss and hurt himself?

Last Edited: 1/12/2022 2:55:06 PM by MonroeClassmate

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 5:24:04 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
Kudos to coaching staff for game plan. Called Carter's number repeatedly in first minutes to go at Reece, second on team in pts (11.7), rebounds (6.1), 3pt% (42.9) and first in fg% (55.7), knowing that he would be pulled with 2 fouls. First foul about a minute and a half into game, second foul a little over two minutes into game and he sits for the rest of the half. Picked up his third 10 seconds into second half. Game stats: 7 minutes, 3 points, 2 boards, 5 fouls. We outrebounded them by 10. Game plan, and execution, are especially key with reduced roster. This team wins a lot of different ways.


The Bobcats seemed to have more offense when Reece was actually on the floor--seems like they went stale when he sat just when they should have started blowing it open. Wasn't he the one who tried a coast to coast slam only to miss and hurt himself?



I believe he was the player that tried to dunk but injured himself. Didn't look very good at first but he seemed alright after. I also agree, Carter did an amazing job guarding Reece and shut him down pretty much the whole game.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 9:45:34 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Typically the graphics include the time, centered between the two teams' scores. Graphics were also missing team fouls, which I missed more than the time.


Both the time and the shot clock time were missing.

The shot clock is something hoops fans are really used to seeing.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/12/2022 10:07:01 PM 
greencat wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Typically the graphics include the time, centered between the two teams' scores. Graphics were also missing team fouls, which I missed more than the time.


Both the time and the shot clock time were missing.

The shot clock is something hoops fans are really used to seeing.


For what it's worth, my wife and weren't able to go to the women's game today, and settled for watching most of it on the ESPN3 (via ESPN+). There was no shot clock graphic, which was irritating.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/15/2022 12:15:29 AM 
Interesting post on the BG thread:

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For the last "normal(ish)" year of college athletics here are the audit numbers for both OU & BGSU...

https://ohioauditor.gov/auditsearch/Rep ... _FINAL.pdf

https://ohioauditor.gov/auditsearch/Rep ... 0-Wood.pdf


My Key takeaways...

* Thanks to the Bill Frack money we get quite a bit more actual revenue than OU to our basketball program. OU lists their institutional support dollars as revenue, BG audits all of their's as non-sport specific, but actual revenue, BG is a couple hundred thousand higher.

* BG shows more revenue even though they're clearly cooking the books by realizing $0 in basketball revenue from concessions, parking, etc. There's our answer why you can NOT go to the University and purchase a parking pass any longer. That money has to get funneled through the Falcon club and they give you a "Free" parking pass. This is why, so they can take money away from basketball since the Frack money largely finances the program.

* BG gives up, by comparison, $100k in revenue by NOT being willing to play better opponents on the road.

* This is basically offset by spending less on guarantees because we're not willing to play better opponents at home either

* We spent 3x what OU spent on "Equipment", more on travel (to play lesser competition), and more on recruiting than they did (although this year is less than the year guest posted).

* This is the big one. We spend almost the exact same on Coaching and support staff salaries as OU. We spend plenty to get upper echelon coaching by MAC standards. And we don't get that Return on our Investment.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/15/2022 10:40:53 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
shabamon wrote:
6,800 in the building on a Tuesday in this era is outstanding. Accurate? Lots of arenas across the landscape look so bad I wonder if they are only letting in friends and family due to Covid. I know IUPUI is awful, but I briefly tuned into their game last night against UIC since it was close at the end. There couldn't have been 50 people in the stands.


Still, that's tickets sold, not butts in seats.


There were at least 6,800 butts in seats. I estimated as I looked around the crowd that the attendance was around 7,000, so 6,800 is probably dead on. In addition to a nice student section there were lots of townies and other non-students there. I was totally blown away with the size of the crowd. I had expected a crowd that would be not much better than the ones over the break period. I guess the lack of pretzels was not the mass turnoff that some would have predicted! ;-)


I didn't want to turn this into a pissing contest because I only watched on espn3, but the overestination of crowd size on this board is bordering on delusional. This is not a complaint about reporting tickets sold vs butts in seats; that's pretty standard. After finally seeing some pics of the student side, I can say with great confidence that the real number was more like 3500-4000 tops. Other than the student section, the 100 level was very sparsely populated. You understand there are only 3000 seats below the ring and 10000 above? The 100 level was maybe 1/3 full. Lets be generous and say there were 2000 below the ring due to the full student sections and two band sections... It was not even close to another 4800 above. by our new standard, which is very low, it was a nice turnout for a tuesday, and a great turnout by MAC tuesday standards. Not arguing that at all. But if there were 6800 in house, I will eat my hat.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/15/2022 12:54:50 PM 
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I didn't want to turn this into a pissing contest ........ You understand there are only 3000 seats below the ring and 10000 above? The 100 level was maybe 1/3 full. Lets be generous and say there were 2000 below the ring due to the full student sections and two band sections... It was not even close to another 4800 above.



IN all these years I have often wondered....and avoiding the pissing contest....I have never realized this proportion. So ....below the concourse there are 3K seats? Above the Concourse there are roughly 10K? I know Alan has constantly hammered home the attendance #s but I never paid much attention. I think Boals acknowledging the "presence" was interesting. Seems he thought it was palpable. THanks for the insight into the numbers.




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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 15 Thread: Bowling Green
   Posted: 1/15/2022 9:04:22 PM 
bornacatfan wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:


I didn't want to turn this into a pissing contest ........ You understand there are only 3000 seats below the ring and 10000 above? The 100 level was maybe 1/3 full. Lets be generous and say there were 2000 below the ring due to the full student sections and two band sections... It was not even close to another 4800 above.



IN all these years I have often wondered....and avoiding the pissing contest....I have never realized this proportion. So ....below the concourse there are 3K seats? Above the Concourse there are roughly 10K? I know Alan has constantly hammered home the attendance #s but I never paid much attention. I think Boals acknowledging the "presence" was interesting. Seems he thought it was palpable. THanks for the insight into the numbers.





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   Posted: 1/17/2022 6:08:01 AM 
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