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Announcer today said Shea Taylor has been their best defender (although he sat out today's game) and Kaden Schmitz has been getting a lot of snaps at linebacker. I recall a couple of younger linebackers also following Albin down to Charlotte, Bowman and Startz. Who else am I'm missing? Back to Top ohio9704 General User Member Since: 2/11/2006 Post Count: 1,553 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/11/2025 9:12:41 PM  https://forums.ninernation.net/c/charlotte-49er-football/17 If you want to read up on where their fanbase is with Tim. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,666 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/12/2025 9:20:00 AM  ohio9704 wrote: https://forums.ninernation.net/c/charlotte-49er-football/17 If you want to read up on where their fanbase is with Tim. quote from that forum: "I’m not optimistic but it has nothing to do with Tim. We’ve been a loser program for hoops and football for my entire adult life. It’s a cultural problem, not a coach problem." Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/12/2025 9:26:45 AM  I think that's right. Albin is a good coach. But man did he pick an awful job. Played his hand here terribly; ended up with a small raise, sub-par resources, in a tougher conference, at a program with zero history of success or fan support. I cant blame him for wanting to test himself at a different level, and trying to maximize his earnings. But it's very unclear how Charlotte presented those things, and there is no doubt that with patience and success here, he'd have ended up with better options eventually. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,666 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/12/2025 10:55:56 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: I think that's right. Albin is a good coach. But man did he pick an awful job. Played his hand here terribly; ended up with a small raise, sub-par resources, in a tougher conference, at a program with zero history of success or fan support. I cant blame him for wanting to test himself at a different level, and trying to maximize his earnings. But it's very unclear how Charlotte presented those things, and there is no doubt that with patience and success here, he'd have ended up with better options eventually. They hired a young rah-rah coach (Will Healy) to rally fan support and interest in the program but his coaching didn't live up to his hype and he was terminated in middle of a season. They need a coach that can be the face of the program like Healy but also coach the team. A tough combination to find. Eddie George at BGSU is the exception. He rebuilt TSU which is in a bad part of a big city, so that was not a piece of cake. Now he is going to get it done at BG. Next stop for Eddie? NFL? Titans? Last Edited: 10/12/2025 10:56:58 AM by greencat Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,492 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/12/2025 1:55:47 PM  Eddie George (and Pudge?) could be one and gone if BG ends up with a winning record. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/17/2025 1:48:06 PM  Charlotte fired their AD today. Funniest outcome would be them hiring Cromer. But this probably ain't good news for Albin. Gonna have to have success quick, as ADs often want to put their stamp on things with hires in key sports. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,666 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/17/2025 2:45:53 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Charlotte fired their AD today. Funniest outcome would be them hiring Cromer. But this probably ain't good news for Albin. Gonna have to have success quick, as ADs often want to put their stamp on things with hires in key sports. Chancellor Sharon L. Gaber: “He played a pivotal role in many important advances for our athletics department, including the move to the American Conference. His hiring of head football coach Tim Albin has also set us on a path toward success. ...The old passive aggressive kiss of death = dead man walking status. If her statement had been any more passive-aggressive, Lumberg from Office Space could have written it for her. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,183 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/17/2025 3:49:15 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Charlotte fired their AD today. Funniest outcome would be them hiring Cromer. But this probably ain't good news for Albin. Gonna have to have success quick, as ADs often want to put their stamp on things with hires in key sports. I saw this on their board, and my take is that despite the official pronouncement this is a fire-the-guy-who-hired-the-bad-football-and-men's-basketball-coach move. I'm not saying that I consider TA a bad football coach. It's just that at least some of the natives appear restless in Charlotte, and I've seen this act before where the AD is fired to placate vocal alumni. I think most of the posters on their board are willing to give TA some time, but there are references there to "deep pocket" alumni who at least one poster thinks drove the decision. There are several posts saying that his move shortens Albin's leash, maybe to just two years rather than three to have a winning record. There are also a lot of posts expressing astonishment at the timing. Apparently, the AD's contract was fairly recently renewed, and UNCC has to pay him through the 2030 fiscal year. At the very least there are interesting times ahead at Charlotte. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,827 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/19/2025 8:39:47 AM  The craziest thing is they fired Hill in the middle of Homecoming week when he had a bunch of time scheduled with donors. Then they get absolutely killed by Temple. It is a full on disaster. I started off poking fun at all of this because I deep down figured Albin would turn it around, but now I have no idea. They are paying two former coaches, a former AD, and Albin’s buyout. How do they even get out of this? Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 1,063 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/19/2025 10:25:57 AM  Mike Coleman wrote: The craziest thing is they fired Hill in the middle of Homecoming week when he had a bunch of time scheduled with donors. Then they get absolutely killed by Temple. It is a full on disaster. I started off poking fun at all of this because I deep down figured Albin would turn it around, but now I have no idea. They are paying two former coaches, a former AD, and Albin’s buyout. How do they even get out of this? Drop football and try again in a few years like UAB? Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,990 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/19/2025 11:40:54 AM  AD firing had little to do with the Albin hiring. There was internal issues with the way Biff was fired which impacted donor pledges for NIIL. This was always a honeymoon year for Albin ad that hasn't changed. Three future games to keep an eye on. ECU this Noveber and the ECU and App St games next year. Those are the ones that matter most to students and alumni (many applied to all three schools). Needs to show team is on right track by those games next year. Program has always been poor, so fans have limited expectations, but want some equality vs. instate rivals. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,827 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/19/2025 8:56:04 PM  cc-cat wrote: AD firing had little to do with the Albin hiring. There was internal issues with the way Biff was fired which impacted donor pledges for NIIL. This was always a honeymoon year for Albin ad that hasn't changed. Three future games to keep an eye on. ECU this Noveber and the ECU and App St games next year. Those are the ones that matter most to students and alumni (many applied to all three schools). Needs to show team is on right track by those games next year. Program has always been poor, so fans have limited expectations, but want some equality vs. instate rivals. Thanks for the insight. I read where UNCC will pay Hill $420,000 per year through 2030. That’s a pretty big chunk of change, so some Charlotte boosters must be holding quite a bit of NIL money on the sidelines for the school to make that move. Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 3,287 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/19/2025 9:00:40 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: cc-cat wrote: AD firing had little to do with the Albin hiring. There was internal issues with the way Biff was fired which impacted donor pledges for NIIL. This was always a honeymoon year for Albin ad that hasn't changed. Three future games to keep an eye on. ECU this Noveber and the ECU and App St games next year. Those are the ones that matter most to students and alumni (many applied to all three schools). Needs to show team is on right track by those games next year. Program has always been poor, so fans have limited expectations, but want some equality vs. instate rivals. Thanks for the insight. I read where UNCC will pay Hill $420,000 per year through 2030. That’s a pretty big chunk of change, so some Charlotte boosters must be holding quite a bit of NIL money on the sidelines for the school to make that move. I really gotta get one of these gigs where they pay you a couple million dollars just to go away. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,183 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 10:13:56 AM  M.D.W.S.T wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: cc-cat wrote: AD firing had little to do with the Albin hiring. There was internal issues with the way Biff was fired which impacted donor pledges for NIIL. This was always a honeymoon year for Albin ad that hasn't changed. Three future games to keep an eye on. ECU this Noveber and the ECU and App St games next year. Those are the ones that matter most to students and alumni (many applied to all three schools). Needs to show team is on right track by those games next year. Program has always been poor, so fans have limited expectations, but want some equality vs. instate rivals. Thanks for the insight. I read where UNCC will pay Hill $420,000 per year through 2030. That’s a pretty big chunk of change, so some Charlotte boosters must be holding quite a bit of NIL money on the sidelines for the school to make that move. I really gotta get one of these gigs where they pay you a couple million dollars just to go away. It's quite the scam, but that's what college athletics has become. I think over the next decade we are due for a paradigm shift. I don't have any idea what direction that will take, but I just don't see the current one lasting too much longer. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 10:32:43 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: It's quite the scam, but that's what college athletics has become. What's the scam, exactly? Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,183 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 11:48:44 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's quite the scam, but that's what college athletics has become. What's the scam, exactly? It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 12:55:16 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. Getting paid based on a contract you signed is literally the exact opposite of a scam. I think there are all manner of inefficient markets. College football headcoaches are unquestionably one of those. But the schools are the ones choosing who to hire, and choosing to pay people not to work. Fail to see what's dishonest about that or where the 'scam' comes in. You think James Franklin wouldn't prefer to still be at Penn State? Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,183 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 1:12:36 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. Getting paid based on a contract you signed is literally the exact opposite of a scam. I think there are all manner of inefficient markets. College football headcoaches are unquestionably one of those. But the schools are the ones choosing who to hire, and choosing to pay people not to work. Fail to see what's dishonest about that or where the 'scam' comes in. You think James Franklin wouldn't prefer to still be at Penn State? You are using too narrow of a definition of scam. It's a societal level scam, not a scam perpetuated by an individual or one institution. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 1:33:15 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. Getting paid based on a contract you signed is literally the exact opposite of a scam. I think there are all manner of inefficient markets. College football headcoaches are unquestionably one of those. But the schools are the ones choosing who to hire, and choosing to pay people not to work. Fail to see what's dishonest about that or where the 'scam' comes in. You think James Franklin wouldn't prefer to still be at Penn State? You are using too narrow of a definition of scam. It's a societal level scam, not a scam perpetuated by an individual or one institution. Oh, I see. My fault for assuming you were using the word scam correctly. Makes perfect sense now that you've redefined the word scam to make your first post make sense. Honestly man, I have no idea what you're talking about. I said nothing about this being perpetuated by an "individual or institution" -- and my definition of scam is in no way tied to an individual or institution. In fact, I referred to "college football headcoaches" plural. Last Edited: 10/20/2025 1:38:23 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,183 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 1:51:31 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. Getting paid based on a contract you signed is literally the exact opposite of a scam. I think there are all manner of inefficient markets. College football headcoaches are unquestionably one of those. But the schools are the ones choosing who to hire, and choosing to pay people not to work. Fail to see what's dishonest about that or where the 'scam' comes in. You think James Franklin wouldn't prefer to still be at Penn State? You are using too narrow of a definition of scam. It's a societal level scam, not a scam perpetuated by an individual or one institution. Oh, I see. My fault for assuming you were using the word scam correctly. Makes perfect sense now that you've redefined the word scam to make your first post make sense. Honestly man, I have no idea what you're talking about. I said nothing about this being perpetuated by an "individual or institution" -- and my definition of scam is in no way tied to an individual or institution. In fact, I referred to "college football headcoaches" plural. Whatever! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/20/2025 2:29:16 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Whatever! Sorry for scamming you! Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,484 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/21/2025 8:21:15 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's quite the scam, but that's what college athletics has become. What's the scam, exactly? It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. An institution such as Penn State has multiple options to avoid paying $57,000,000 in dead money for James Franklin not to coach. They just chose not to exercise any of them. 1) They could have let Franklin coach out the remaining years on the contract. Voila: NO DEAD MONEY 2) They could use annual contracts. Sure, they'd probably have to take a MUCH bigger budget hit each year (bigger salary in exchange for little/no security), but they wouldn't have any dead money 3) [Somewhat less sarcastic] they could trying to negotiate paying him less money each year for more years (e.g. instead of 8 million/year for 7 years, 4 million/year for 20 years, numbers made up). This wouldn't reduce the total amount of dead money, but it would reduce the annual impact...until they fire their next coach in less than 20 years Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,990 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/22/2025 9:58:24 AM  limited scamming. Penn state is not going to pay him remotely that much. as is normal any compensation due is offset by earnings from a new job. so for example if he is due $12 a year and gets a coaching position paying $8 million they only owe $4 million that year. additionally he has a clause that requires him to vigorously pursue employment and to prove that he is doing so. he has already stated he wants to coach and is rumored a candidate for multiple jobs. l Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 4,374 Status: Offline     RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half    Posted: 10/22/2025 10:20:22 AM  mf279801 wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: It's quite the scam, but that's what college athletics has become. What's the scam, exactly? It's a legal scam, but getting paid $57 million for not working when you were lousy at your last job is not exactly what I'd call making an honest living. I know you believe that the market rules all and is somewhat sacrosanct, so I guess our opinions will differ. No big deal. An institution such as Penn State has multiple options to avoid paying $57,000,000 in dead money for James Franklin not to coach. They just chose not to exercise any of them. 1) They could have let Franklin coach out the remaining years on the contract. Voila: NO DEAD MONEY 2) They could use annual contracts. Sure, they'd probably have to take a MUCH bigger budget hit each year (bigger salary in exchange for little/no security), but they wouldn't have any dead money 3) [Somewhat less sarcastic] they could trying to negotiate paying him less money each year for more years (e.g. instead of 8 million/year for 7 years, 4 million/year for 20 years, numbers made up). This wouldn't reduce the total amount of dead money, but it would reduce the annual impact...until they fire their next coach in less than 20 years I'd add: 4) They -- and other college football programs -- could actually use program revenue to pay their coaches and run their operations in a sustainable way instead of using donor money to increase coaching salaries. Doing so 1) artificially inflates the market rates going to coaches, and 2) gives donors outsized power in coaching decisions. There's a reason college coaches negotiate such aggressive guarantees and buyouts -- because there's basically no job security or patience amongst elite college football programs. Donors paying for coaches is a big part of that. It's also a very big part of how schools pay the buyouts. 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