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   Posted: 10/1/2025 7:26:48 PM 
Charlotte just lost their starting QB for the rest of the season. It may be ugly but it’s going to get uglier.
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   Posted: 10/3/2025 7:16:04 PM 
Timmy’s on ESPN2 tonight and I’m gonna be honest, Charlotte is ass. I’m not being mean just because he left either.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half
   Posted: 10/3/2025 7:45:50 PM 
Cats5 wrote:
Timmy’s on ESPN2 tonight and I’m gonna be honest, Charlotte is ass. I’m not being mean just because he left either.


Do yourself a favor and switch over to WKU v. Delaware or the high school game on the CW. Better football.
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   Posted: 10/3/2025 8:15:35 PM 
cbarber357 wrote:
Cats5 wrote:
Timmy’s on ESPN2 tonight and I’m gonna be honest, Charlotte is ass. I’m not being mean just because he left either.


Do yourself a favor and switch over to WKU v. Delaware or the high school game on the CW. Better football.


That’s what I’m about to do. It’s honestly just sad now.
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   Posted: 10/3/2025 10:03:53 PM 
He's lost that team. 2 fumbles on 2 series, and the player responsible for the 2nd rolled his eyes on national TV during Timmy's coaching moment.
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   Posted: 10/4/2025 10:49:54 AM 
I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half
   Posted: 10/4/2025 11:24:28 AM 
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I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.


Completely agree with this. Albin leaving was one of the oddest coaching moves in recent memory.

The marginal gains he made in salary increase, better conference and bigger/warmer metro area to live in will be negated by the difficulty he'll face in turning around the Charlotte program at his current age.

Factor in that the 49ers lack resources compared to their peers in the American and it's likely he'll never re-achieve the level of success he had at Ohio.

He obviously believes in himself and wanted another challenge but that's a tough situation.

But maybe his quality of life will be better...
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   Posted: 10/4/2025 1:38:39 PM 
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I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.


Completely agree with this. Albin leaving was one of the oddest coaching moves in recent memory.

The marginal gains he made in salary increase, better conference and bigger/warmer metro area to live in will be negated by the difficulty he'll face in turning around the Charlotte program at his current age.

Factor in that the 49ers lack resources compared to their peers in the American and it's likely he'll never re-achieve the level of success he had at Ohio.

He obviously believes in himself and wanted another challenge but that's a tough situation.

But maybe his quality of life will be better...


He might and he might not. But he deserves more than this season to show progress. His first year at Ohio... weird situation to be sure... was a clunker too

Last Edited: 10/4/2025 1:39:11 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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   Posted: 10/4/2025 1:41:54 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.


All that may be true, but Ohio has been good lately because of some very good/great QB’s as well. Can we keep that going?
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   Posted: 10/6/2025 8:40:25 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.

His success was indeed based on the culture at Ohio, but remember that Albin had a part in the building of that culture. Remember also that you can't build a winning culture overnight. It wasn't until 2009 that Ohio became a consistent winner. (In his first four years at Ohio, Solich was 23-26). Even some hardcore fans like Green Jinx fell off the bandwagon, and took years to return.

Can Albin win at Charlotte? I have no idea, but I do know that the situation is very different now than in 2005. In 2005 Solich arrived to find a lot of talent recruited by Knorr, and was able to coach it up. In today's world, that doesn't happen, because the old talent all hops into the portal. Then you buy new talent, (if you have enough NIL), and try to blend it into your culture (if you have one). Was leaving a bad decision? No doubt, as he gave up a sure thing for a risky situation. He obviously disliked Cromer, but he could have outlasted her.

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He might and he might not. But he deserves more than this season to show progress. His first year at Ohio... weird situation to be sure... was a clunker too


Exactly. He will get more than just this year, but, in today's world, patience is short. Charlotte didn't give their last coach 3 full years. Albin probably will get 2-3 years to show progress, tops. The same was true at Ohio. If he hadn't won in 2022, he'd have probably been gone.

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All that may be true, but Ohio has been good lately because of some very good/great QB’s as well. Can we keep that going?

You've got to give Isphording credit for that. Since he arrived, QBs have always shown improvement from their first year until their last. That, in turn, has to be a selling point to recruits. I think that unless someone steals him, Ohio will continue to have good QBs. Start with good recruits, and coach them up, and you have success.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half
   Posted: 10/6/2025 10:09:01 AM 
L.C. wrote:


colobobcat66 wrote:
All that may be true, but Ohio has been good lately because of some very good/great QB’s as well. Can we keep that going?

You've got to give Isphording credit for that. Since he arrived, QBs have always shown improvement from their first year until their last. That, in turn, has to be a selling point to recruits. I think that unless someone steals him, Ohio will continue to have good QBs. Start with good recruits, and coach them up, and you have success.


Tim Carpenter.

Hype.

I think we're gonna be okay for a while. Though having them on the roster, we probably won't land many (any) big recruits at the position - and hopefully we don't need them anyway.

L.C. wrote:


Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
He might and he might not. But he deserves more than this season to show progress. His first year at Ohio... weird situation to be sure... was a clunker too


Exactly. He will get more than just this year, but, in today's world, patience is short. Charlotte didn't give their last coach 3 full years. Albin probably will get 2-3 years to show progress, tops. The same was true at Ohio. If he hadn't won in 2022, he'd have probably been gone.



Biff didn't even get TWO full years at Charlotte. They fired him after game 10 in year two. He won 3 games both seasons, and that looks like the ceiling for Tim at the moment.

On his way out he was quite critical of the lack of financial support and resources. Presumably, the same obstacles Tim is facing/will face.

He's only 60, so presumably he would make his way back to the MAC as a coordinator or something, but that would make the move make even less sense. No need to rehash all the ways we thought this was an all-time dumb move, but at this rate - I would be stunned to see him get to year three. He's not exactly Mr. Charisma and going to charm the pants off people to extend his time. One of the numerous reasons I don't see him suddenly wooing recruits. Should've cashed a couple more $800K checks in Athens and moved to Lake Norman as a 65 year old retiree / beloved OU figure. Closed a lot of doors on himself. I'm sure he's wondering what another 10 win season with Navarro would have done as far as better opportunities than one of the worst teams in the American.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Albin trailing 14-3 at the half
   Posted: 10/6/2025 10:25:25 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
. . . I'm sure he's wondering what another 10 win season with Navarro would have done as far as better opportunities than one of the worst teams in America.
. Corrected that for you! ;-)

Last Edited: 10/6/2025 10:25:45 AM by OhioCatFan

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   Posted: 10/6/2025 10:37:04 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
...He's only 60, so presumably he would make his way back to the MAC as a coordinator or something, but that would make the move make even less sense. No need to rehash all the ways we thought this was an all-time dumb move, but at this rate - I would be stunned to see him get to year three. He's not exactly Mr. Charisma and going to charm the pants off people to extend his time. One of the numerous reasons I don't see him suddenly wooing recruits. Should've cashed a couple more $800K checks in Athens and moved to Lake Norman as a 65 year old retiree / beloved OU figure. Closed a lot of doors on himself. I'm sure he's wondering what another 10 win season with Navarro would have done as far as better opportunities than one of the worst teams in the American.

If Tim's tenure ends badly, he won't be the first person to have quit a job because he disliked his boss, only to regret it later. At least Cromer, before she left town, made the right choice for a successor coach, and didn't throw out the culture to replace it with someone from outside.

Now, the Bobcats need to get over Ball State, and get the season back on track. The MAC is even enough that it's hard to go undefeated in MAC play, but losing two will make it hard to get to the MACC.

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   Posted: 10/6/2025 12:16:53 PM 
In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU

Biggest mid-major disappointment vs expectations this season?

So-called "Liberty" now ranked #123 with the only win over a 1aa team.

Last Edited: 10/6/2025 12:22:06 PM by greencat
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   Posted: 10/6/2025 12:59:21 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Tim Carpenter.

Hype.

I think we're gonna be okay for a while. Though having them on the roster, we probably won't land many (any) big recruits at the position - and hopefully we don't need them anyway.


I'd like to introduce you to Levi Davis, senior QB of Olentangy Orange.
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   Posted: 10/6/2025 1:07:55 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Tim Carpenter.

Hype.

I think we're gonna be okay for a while. Though having them on the roster, we probably won't land many (any) big recruits at the position - and hopefully we don't need them anyway.


I'd like to introduce you to Levi Davis, senior QB of Olentangy Orange.


He's the guy I am most excited for. All-State in Football, Basketball, and Track. Currently leading a 7-0 Olentangy Orange team. I'm glad he's graduating early to enroll at OU.
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   Posted: 10/6/2025 1:11:48 PM 
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In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU


I mean, the bottom 10 includes 4 MAC teams -- Ball State, Kent, Akron, and UMass.

So, sure MTSU is bad. But it's not like the MAC is some beacon that they should have been desperate to join.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
greencat wrote:
In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU


I mean, the bottom 10 includes 4 MAC teams -- Ball State, Kent, Akron, and UMass.

So, sure MTSU is bad. But it's not like the MAC is some beacon that they should have been desperate to join.


But, it's those four deplorable football programs that drag the MAC down in terms of conference ranking. If we dropped KSU, Akron, UMass and Ball State (how did we ever lose to them!), the MAC as a conference would be ranked higher, instead of next to last, above only hapeless C-USA.

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   Posted: 10/6/2025 3:25:31 PM 
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I could be wrong, but I think Tim reached the zenith of his career at Ohio. He didn't realize that his success here was based on the culture Frank established and the fine set of assistant coaches. He made a disasterous decision when he left like he did.


Albin became really arrogant (or maybe he always was we just didn't see it) when he was named HC. At many of the caravan events he was hanging with his buddies while Coach Boals was shaking hands and thanking everyone for attending. Reminded me of Jim Christian. Thought he was a little to big for his current job so he left and it ended up in an epic faceplant.
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OhioCatFan wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
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In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU


I mean, the bottom 10 includes 4 MAC teams -- Ball State, Kent, Akron, and UMass.

So, sure MTSU is bad. But it's not like the MAC is some beacon that they should have been desperate to join.


But, it's those four deplorable football programs that drag the MAC down in terms of conference ranking. If we dropped KSU, Akron, UMass and Ball State (how did we ever lose to them!), the MAC as a conference would be ranked higher, instead of next to last, above only hapeless C-USA.


Yeah, all conferences would have better averages if you drop their lowest ranked 4 teams.

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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
greencat wrote:
In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU


I mean, the bottom 10 includes 4 MAC teams -- Ball State, Kent, Akron, and UMass.

So, sure MTSU is bad. But it's not like the MAC is some beacon that they should have been desperate to join.


But, it's those four deplorable football programs that drag the MAC down in terms of conference ranking. If we dropped KSU, Akron, UMass and Ball State (how did we ever lose to them!), the MAC as a conference would be ranked higher, instead of next to last, above only hapeless C-USA.


Yeah, all conferences would have better averages if you drop their lowest ranked 4 teams.



But then you might wreck the basketball status of the league.

A school that sucks in football might be good in hoops.
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   Posted: 10/7/2025 10:33:21 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
greencat wrote:
In the new USA Today ranking of all D-1 FBS teams one through 136....

Charlotte at 130 is now ranked higher than "too good for the MAC" MTSU at 135

ROTFLMAO @ MTSU


I mean, the bottom 10 includes 4 MAC teams -- Ball State, Kent, Akron, and UMass.

So, sure MTSU is bad. But it's not like the MAC is some beacon that they should have been desperate to join.


But, it's those four deplorable football programs that drag the MAC down in terms of conference ranking. If we dropped KSU, Akron, UMass and Ball State (how did we ever lose to them!), the MAC as a conference would be ranked higher, instead of next to last, above only hapeless C-USA.


If you are using that logic in the past, Ohio would have been dropped for years of lousy football ( 1983-1995, 21-83-6 in the MAC).

Last Edited: 10/7/2025 10:47:06 AM by colobobcat66
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   Posted: 10/11/2025 3:00:38 PM 
Charlotte could only muster 178 yards today vs 2-3 Army. Lost 7-24. Move to 1-5.
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M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Charlotte could only muster 178 yards today vs 2-3 Army. Lost 7-24. Move to 1-5.



Going winless vs D-1 teams is a real possibility for Albin now.

Where is that troll who was on here pestering us over "stealing our coach" - ??
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   Posted: 10/11/2025 7:04:41 PM 
greencat wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Charlotte could only muster 178 yards today vs 2-3 Army. Lost 7-24. Move to 1-5.



Going winless vs D-1 teams is a real possibility for Albin now.

Where is that troll who was on here pestering us over "stealing our coach" - ??





Or, the one who thought we'd never be able to negoitate our non-conference schedule and blamed the AD and for Tim's sick dog.

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