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Topic:  Fire Sale
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/25/2023 8:29:11 AM 
According to an article by Bret Schrotenboer of USA Today, there's
been a "mass exodus" of University of Colorado football players, into
the transfer portal.

The exodus has been facilitated by Dion Sanders.

The article quotes him as saying to his "inherited" players "We're going to
try to make you quit."

As of Monday, 16 players have jumped ship.

According to the article, Sanders brought in a bunch of transfer players
to "win now" and needed to make room.

If you google "bret schrotenboer usa today" the article is there.
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/25/2023 9:42:27 AM 
Any defensive tackles?
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bobcatsquared
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/25/2023 10:56:53 AM 
I was listening to sports radio discussing this topic over the weekend. Some of these pundits are already putting Colorado and Deion in the national title game this season.
Instead, I think it's going to take a couple or 3 years, if ever, for Colorado to get back into the national discussion for top teams.

Last Edited: 4/25/2023 10:57:18 AM by bobcatsquared

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/25/2023 12:26:51 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
According to an article by Bret Schrotenboer of USA Today, there's
been a "mass exodus" of University of Colorado football players, into
the transfer portal.

The exodus has been facilitated by Dion Sanders.

The article quotes him as saying to his "inherited" players "We're going to
try to make you quit."

As of Monday, 16 players have jumped ship.

According to the article, Sanders brought in a bunch of transfer players
to "win now" and needed to make room.

If you google "bret schrotenboer usa today" the article is there.


In the day of the transfer portal, you want to run off as many players as you can when you take over a bad program. back in the old days, you had to be selective due to the limits of new players. Today, it's a different era.
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M.D.W.S.T
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/25/2023 1:16:07 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
According to an article by Bret Schrotenboer of USA Today, there's
been a "mass exodus" of University of Colorado football players, into
the transfer portal.

The exodus has been facilitated by Dion Sanders.

The article quotes him as saying to his "inherited" players "We're going to
try to make you quit."

As of Monday, 16 players have jumped ship.

According to the article, Sanders brought in a bunch of transfer players
to "win now" and needed to make room.

If you google "bret schrotenboer usa today" the article is there.


Not remotely surprised.

I'm guessing the talent level between one of the worst teams in FBS and the best team in the FCS isn't far off enough for Sanders to care much about alienating inherited players.

You're buying Deion the personality, not the coach, and this is what comes a long with it.

Kinda wild Lemonious-Craig is jumping ship though, 168 yards and two touchdowns in the spring game.
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BryanHall
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/26/2023 8:02:22 AM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
According to an article by Bret Schrotenboer of USA Today, there's
been a "mass exodus" of University of Colorado football players, into
the transfer portal.

The exodus has been facilitated by Dion Sanders.

The article quotes him as saying to his "inherited" players "We're going to
try to make you quit."

As of Monday, 16 players have jumped ship.

According to the article, Sanders brought in a bunch of transfer players
to "win now" and needed to make room.

If you google "bret schrotenboer usa today" the article is there.


Not remotely surprised.

I'm guessing the talent level between one of the worst teams in FBS and the best team in the FCS isn't far off enough for Sanders to care much about alienating inherited players.

You're buying Deion the personality, not the coach, and this is what comes a long with it.

Kinda wild Lemonious-Craig is jumping ship though, 168 yards and two touchdowns in the spring game.


How different is any of this from what Harbaugh did at Michigan? I heard he was making 5th year players try out for their scholarships. We got a couple of good players out of that--Heitzman and I can't remember the defensive players name.

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/26/2023 12:27:32 PM 
BryanHall wrote:
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
According to an article by Bret Schrotenboer of USA Today, there's
been a "mass exodus" of University of Colorado football players, into
the transfer portal.

The exodus has been facilitated by Dion Sanders.

The article quotes him as saying to his "inherited" players "We're going to
try to make you quit."

As of Monday, 16 players have jumped ship.

According to the article, Sanders brought in a bunch of transfer players
to "win now" and needed to make room.

If you google "bret schrotenboer usa today" the article is there.


Not remotely surprised.

I'm guessing the talent level between one of the worst teams in FBS and the best team in the FCS isn't far off enough for Sanders to care much about alienating inherited players.

You're buying Deion the personality, not the coach, and this is what comes a long with it.

Kinda wild Lemonious-Craig is jumping ship though, 168 yards and two touchdowns in the spring game.


How different is any of this from what Harbaugh did at Michigan? I heard he was making 5th year players try out for their scholarships. We got a couple of good players out of that--Heitzman and I can't remember the defensive players name.



It's not! And you are correct, that is exactly what what Harbaugh did.
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/26/2023 1:07:02 PM 
Relying solely on the transfer portal for talent is certainly a choice. Ask Texas State and Jake Spavital how that worked out.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2930680-texas-state-i...

I've seen differing reports, but the number of players who have left Colorado since Sanders was hired is somewhere between 50-70 players.

Last Edited: 4/26/2023 1:10:48 PM by GoCats105

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/26/2023 1:15:51 PM 
Colorado was absolutely horrible last year and in the past several years. This was not an X and O issue, this is a severe talent issue. Dion was hired to win games, not massage players and parents feelings!!!! Just look at their scores, they weren't even in any games!
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/26/2023 2:06:52 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Colorado was absolutely horrible last year and in the past several years. This was not an X and O issue, this is a severe talent issue. Dion was hired to win games, not massage players and parents feelings!!!! Just look at their scores, they weren't even in any games!


I don't think anyone is disputing that they needed a desperate change across the board. They were awful. And this is going to get worse before it gets better, especially with the September schedule they have and the top portion of the PAC 12 looking really solid this year.

But man that seems like A LOT of players.
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Bobcat Jerry
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/29/2023 3:30:00 PM 
Here in Colorado this is an exciting time for University of Colorado football. Sensitivity and "touchy feely" is out.
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mf279801
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 4/30/2023 4:36:59 PM 
Bobcat Jerry wrote:
Here in Colorado this is an exciting time for University of Colorado football. Sensitivity and "touchy feely" is out.


I think the real question is "are wins in?"
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 5/1/2023 1:21:59 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
Bobcat Jerry wrote:
Here in Colorado this is an exciting time for University of Colorado football. Sensitivity and "touchy feely" is out.


I think the real question is "are wins in?"


Yes, guaranteed they more than double the win total from last season!
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 5/1/2023 3:04:59 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
mf279801 wrote:
Bobcat Jerry wrote:
Here in Colorado this is an exciting time for University of Colorado football. Sensitivity and "touchy feely" is out.


I think the real question is "are wins in?"


Yes, guaranteed they more than double the win total from last season!


That's a high bar. I'll predict they triple their win total from last season. Speaking about going out on a limb.


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bobcat 2000
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Sale
   Posted: 5/4/2023 3:45:14 PM 
a much better way to make the team better is take the players you got and whip theri butts into good palying shape. it starts with an intensive yaer round weight training program. then re work the plays and practice to get the most out of palyers. of course recruit new and better talent but dont just throw the current players under the bus to do so.
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