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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 1:00:50 PM 
When Frank first came to Athens the team didn't have a meeting room, rehab pools or an IPF. Tickets were $10 to $12 dollars and there was no family pack. You've got to respect the time and effort he put in the university to improve the program and the 100+ wins he gave the school.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 1:02:06 PM 
Campus Flow wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
mid70sbobcat wrote:

Solich was a "mediocre" coach?

He won over 75% of his games at Nebraska in his 6 years. And in 5 of those 6 years they were ranked in top 20 end of season. I imagine fans in Lincoln are still pissed he was fired as he did a good job following Tom Osborne.

He turned around a hapless program here in Athens.



Yep, he was mediocre. He lost 19 games in 6 years at a Nebraska program that had lost 3 games in the 5 years before he took over. He was fired because the team got worse, at a rapid pace. He took over a program that had won 95% of their games, and in his 6 years in charge success was suddenly winning 75% of games. He underperformed Bo Pellini at Nebraska. Is Bo Pellini an excellent coach?


Tom Osborn feasted on an era of no scholarship limits and non-qualifiers in addition to building his program in the Big 8 where Oklahoma was the only competition. Nebraska's pull back was inevitable.


Okay. He wasn't the best Nebraska coach in the post-Osborne era. That a pull-back was inevitable doesn't suddenly make a 75% win percentage at Nebraska some excellent result. After taking over for Callahan and a 1-10 first season, Pellini never won fewer than 9 games and won 10 games three times. He went 403 in bowl games. His output at Nebraska -- where a pull back was inevitable -- was better than Solich's output at OU.

Anybody naming a field after Pellini? Is Nebraska pining for the Pellini era?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 1:03:29 PM 
Campus Flow wrote:
When Frank first came to Athens the team didn't have a meeting room, rehab pools or an IPF. Tickets were $10 to $12 dollars and there was no family pack. You've got to respect the time and effort he put in the university to improve the program and the 100+ wins he gave the school.


Of course. But the bar being set isn't one of respect. He absolutely deserves respect and leveled up the program.

But the idea that he's a legend and should be the model for every coach that follows strikes me as a bit outlandish.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 1:12:31 PM 
We don't have rehab pools now. 2 of the three pools are inoperable. 1 pool for football, cross country, track, baseball, etc. AD trying to raise funds to replace them. Feel free to donate.

Last Edited: 9/25/2022 6:44:18 PM by SBH

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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 4:30:45 PM 
That says it all SBH. That is another difference in the world we live downwind in the FBS.I wonder how many rehab pools are operational in Columbus or at UC?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 7:03:30 PM 
ExCat21 wrote:
@CampusFlow

Your real answer here is not having enough restaraunts, malls, etc to attract top talent. And no players-only dining hall hurts too.

To get better recruits we have to beat P5s at home as well (in front of visiting recruits) That helped us in the past get better talent.

I really think we should look at transfer portal for DEs, CBs and safeties to improve in the short-term.

JMHO.

Also, remember the fact that SE Ohio is not the area of the state that produces the most Division 1 talent, which means that most recruits have to be recruited from a distance away. Contrast that, for example, with NIU, which is not only close to Chicago, but which has no G5 competition in Illinois, nor G5 competition in nearby states of Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

In my opinion, the only way to compare coaches is to compare winning percentages at a given school. By that measure, Peden was clearly the coaching legend at Ohio, with a far higher win percentage than anyone else. Warwick Ford, Art Jones, and Frank Remsburg also have better winning percentages than Solich, but none coached 10 games. Not one of the other coaches in Ohio history, however, have a better career win percentage than Solich. Solich, in addition to having a better winning percentage than most Ohio coaches, also did quite a bit to improve the facilities, and he should get some credit for that, too.

I think it's very possible that Albin will be the next Brian Burke, a decent coach who followed Hess, but who couldn't win at as high a rate as Hess. He was shown the door, so that Ohio could forge a new path. I don't expect Albin to win at as high a rate as Solich, so I think his time will be short, and Ohio will once again take a new path. Ironically, at Nebraska, Solich played the role of Burke. He was not able to win as often as Osborne, so Nebraska went a different direction.

The one recommendation I would make goes back to one thing I think Ohio did right in the coaching search that led them to Solich. They included some players on the search team. Players often have a different perspective than administrators, and I think it may be helpful for them to be heard.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Okay. He wasn't the best Nebraska coach in the post-Osborne era. That a pull-back was inevitable doesn't suddenly make a 75% win percentage at Nebraska some excellent result. After taking over for Callahan and a 1-10 first season, Pellini never won fewer than 9 games and won 10 games three times. He went 403 in bowl games. His output at Nebraska -- where a pull back was inevitable -- was better than Solich's output at OU.

Anybody naming a field after Pellini? Is Nebraska pining for the Pellini era?

I don't think anyone would argue that Pelini wasn't a good coach. However, Pelini also came with a lot of baggage.

Last Edited: 9/25/2022 7:08:07 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 7:30:07 PM 
Let's cut to the chase: Albin should be canned if we don't go 6-6 this year.

As to the Solich discussion, he had a basic chemistry to ensure he went 6-6 scheduling wise. If he did what Sean Lewis did at Kent going 6-6 every year, I'd have more respect for what Solich did in terms of getting to 6-6. We throw him on a high ledge because he was here 17 years, brought stability. Problem is, he was a lot like Doug Collins in the NBA. You bring him in to build, but if you wanna win and elevate the program, you had to get someone else. It was like watching same old song and dance every November. Find ways to lose games when it mattered, and win games when nothing mattered.

That said our guys didn't make the newspapers for a lot of stupidity, and the loyalty back to the program from his guys is pretty solid. Will give them that in it built a program that felt more family than ever.

Last Edited: 9/26/2022 10:03:27 AM by Buckeye to Bobcat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 7:38:21 PM 
L.C. wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
@CampusFlow

Your real answer here is not having enough restaraunts, malls, etc to attract top talent. And no players-only dining hall hurts too.

To get better recruits we have to beat P5s at home as well (in front of visiting recruits) That helped us in the past get better talent.

I really think we should look at transfer portal for DEs, CBs and safeties to improve in the short-term.

JMHO.

Also, remember the fact that SE Ohio is not the area of the state that produces the most Division 1 talent, which means that most recruits have to be recruited from a distance away. Contrast that, for example, with NIU, which is not only close to Chicago, but which has no G5 competition in Illinois, nor G5 competition in nearby states of Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

In my opinion, the only way to compare coaches is to compare winning percentages at a given school. By that measure, Peden was clearly the coaching legend at Ohio, with a far higher win percentage than anyone else. Warwick Ford, Art Jones, and Frank Remsburg also have better winning percentages than Solich, but none coached 10 games. Not one of the other coaches in Ohio history, however, have a better career win percentage than Solich. Solich, in addition to having a better winning percentage than most Ohio coaches, also did quite a bit to improve the facilities, and he should get some credit for that, too.

I think it's very possible that Albin will be the next Brian Burke, a decent coach who followed Hess, but who couldn't win at as high a rate as Hess. He was shown the door, so that Ohio could forge a new path. I don't expect Albin to win at as high a rate as Solich, so I think his time will be short, and Ohio will once again take a new path. Ironically, at Nebraska, Solich played the role of Burke. He was not able to win as often as Osborne, so Nebraska went a different direction.

The one recommendation I would make goes back to one thing I think Ohio did right in the coaching search that led them to Solich. They included some players on the search team. Players often have a different perspective than administrators, and I think it may be helpful for them to be heard.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Okay. He wasn't the best Nebraska coach in the post-Osborne era. That a pull-back was inevitable doesn't suddenly make a 75% win percentage at Nebraska some excellent result. After taking over for Callahan and a 1-10 first season, Pellini never won fewer than 9 games and won 10 games three times. He went 403 in bowl games. His output at Nebraska -- where a pull back was inevitable -- was better than Solich's output at OU.

Anybody naming a field after Pellini? Is Nebraska pining for the Pellini era?

I don't think anyone would argue that Pelini wasn't a good coach. However, Pelini also came with a lot of baggage.


If I am recalling correctly, Burke coached for about 6 seasons and finished just a couple wins below .500. Albin likely won't match that level after 2 seasons.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 8:18:17 PM 
SBH wrote:
We don't have rehab pools now. 2 of the three pools are inoperable. 1 pool for football, cross country, track, baseball, etc. AD trying to raise funds to replace them. Feel free to donate.


The university has to fundraise to fix its rehab pools? This is a maintenance issue. If the university had the basketball practice facility with a few more rehab pools this would be less of a factor across the athletic department.

I don't understand how the AD can get on the radio and say the NCAA tournament run in 2021 was worth 91 million to the university yet the university can't find the money for a basketball practice facility. It doesn't make sense to be so cheap.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/25/2022 8:22:36 PM 
ExCat21 wrote:
@CampusFlow

Your real answer here is not having enough restaraunts, malls, etc to attract top talent. And no players-only dining hall hurts too.

To get better recruits we have to beat P5s at home as well (in front of visiting recruits) That helped us in the past get better talent.

I really think we should look at transfer portal for DEs, CBs and safeties to improve in the short-term.

JMHO.


Oxford has less restaurants and malls than what you can find in Athens and they have the top recruiting class for 2023. Further who has cared about a mall since 1990?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 6:47:18 AM 
Campus Flow wrote:
SBH wrote:
We don't have rehab pools now. 2 of the three pools are inoperable. 1 pool for football, cross country, track, baseball, etc. AD trying to raise funds to replace them. Feel free to donate.


The university has to fundraise to fix its rehab pools? This is a maintenance issue. If the university had the basketball practice facility with a few more rehab pools this would be less of a factor across the athletic department.

I don't understand how the AD can get on the radio and say the NCAA tournament run in 2021 was worth 91 million to the university yet the university can't find the money for a basketball practice facility. It doesn't make sense to be so cheap.


When people, including me ,were talking about buying out Albin, O.U. was touting having a substantial surplus.

I would think fixing/replacing the rehab pools would be a good use for a small portion of the surplus.
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   Posted: 9/26/2022 8:57:31 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Campus Flow wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
mid70sbobcat wrote:

Solich was a "mediocre" coach?

He won over 75% of his games at Nebraska in his 6 years. And in 5 of those 6 years they were ranked in top 20 end of season. I imagine fans in Lincoln are still pissed he was fired as he did a good job following Tom Osborne.

He turned around a hapless program here in Athens.



Yep, he was mediocre. He lost 19 games in 6 years at a Nebraska program that had lost 3 games in the 5 years before he took over. He was fired because the team got worse, at a rapid pace. He took over a program that had won 95% of their games, and in his 6 years in charge success was suddenly winning 75% of games. He underperformed Bo Pellini at Nebraska. Is Bo Pellini an excellent coach?


Tom Osborn feasted on an era of no scholarship limits and non-qualifiers in addition to building his program in the Big 8 where Oklahoma was the only competition. Nebraska's pull back was inevitable.


Okay. He wasn't the best Nebraska coach in the post-Osborne era. That a pull-back was inevitable doesn't suddenly make a 75% win percentage at Nebraska some excellent result. After taking over for Callahan and a 1-10 first season, Pellini never won fewer than 9 games and won 10 games three times. He went 403 in bowl games. His output at Nebraska -- where a pull back was inevitable -- was better than Solich's output at OU.

Anybody naming a field after Pellini? Is Nebraska pining for the Pellini era?


If Pellini was not an abusive asshole, he would still be there.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 10:28:23 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Campus Flow wrote:
SBH wrote:
We don't have rehab pools now. 2 of the three pools are inoperable. 1 pool for football, cross country, track, baseball, etc. AD trying to raise funds to replace them. Feel free to donate.


The university has to fundraise to fix its rehab pools? This is a maintenance issue. If the university had the basketball practice facility with a few more rehab pools this would be less of a factor across the athletic department.

I don't understand how the AD can get on the radio and say the NCAA tournament run in 2021 was worth 91 million to the university yet the university can't find the money for a basketball practice facility. It doesn't make sense to be so cheap.


When people, including me ,were talking about buying out Albin, O.U. was touting having a substantial surplus.

I would think fixing/replacing the rehab pools would be a good use for a small portion of the surplus.


My understanding is that a healthy part of that surplus came from Covid relief aid and the Cares Act.

Given that we laid off faculty members recently, and tried to burn our CFO at the stake because she got a 33k bonus, we should probably be pretty thoughtful about how we spend money. And buying out a coach who is free to fire in a year seems like a silly investment, especially given that he oversees a program that loses money and hasn't won anything of note in 30 years. A one year head start seems like a bad use of money. Of alums want it, they should've paid for it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 10:46:00 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
Campus Flow wrote:
SBH wrote:
We don't have rehab pools now. 2 of the three pools are inoperable. 1 pool for football, cross country, track, baseball, etc. AD trying to raise funds to replace them. Feel free to donate.


The university has to fundraise to fix its rehab pools? This is a maintenance issue. If the university had the basketball practice facility with a few more rehab pools this would be less of a factor across the athletic department.

I don't understand how the AD can get on the radio and say the NCAA tournament run in 2021 was worth 91 million to the university yet the university can't find the money for a basketball practice facility. It doesn't make sense to be so cheap.


When people, including me ,were talking about buying out Albin, O.U. was touting having a substantial surplus.

I would think fixing/replacing the rehab pools would be a good use for a small portion of the surplus.


My understanding is that a healthy part of that surplus came from Covid relief aid and the Cares Act.

Given that we laid off faculty members recently, and tried to burn our CFO at the stake because she got a 33k bonus, we should probably be pretty thoughtful about how we spend money. And buying out a coach who is free to fire in a year seems like a silly investment, especially given that he oversees a program that loses money and hasn't won anything of note in 30 years. A one year head start seems like a bad use of money. Of alums want it, they should've paid for it.


+1 Agree. And this is where good athletic departments shine through on these kind of things, where trying to buy out a coach early is a stupid use of resources, especially at a school with limited resources.

Confident Cromer will make the right call and do what is necessary, and don't feel like she's out to burn money at all.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 10:52:50 AM 
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If Pellini was not an abusive asshole, he would still be there.


Yep, makes sense. Just pointing out that there's a lot of folks insisting that Solich was as good as Nebraska could have done, but Pellini did better.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 11:14:24 AM 
I'm in the camp of Solich was really good and did about as well as he could with what he had to work with at Ohio. But there sure was a whole bunch left on the table after 16 years. No MAC titles. Never had a #1 recruiting class in the conference. Failed to establish dominance in one of the worst divisions in the FBS. Those things are all true.

Now, had he done all of what he did in the MAC West, I'd be a little more forgiving. Going up against perennial title winners in CMU, NIU, Toledo and WMU every season isn't easy. But the MAC East was god awful for years and years and years. Even then Akron, Buffalo, Miami and BG all won MAC titles. The only schools that didn't win a title in the Solich era: EMU, Kent State and Ohio. That sounds ridiculous typing it out given how consistent Solich's teams were. Consistent doesn't always mean great (Wisconsin is having this same issue right now).

And you know what, that's ok! If that's the best Ohio could do given the resources it has, then so be it. Until this university and AD receives a large donation predicated towards building a powerhouse football program, this is what Ohio is.

Did Solich make Ohio a better program? Yes. Could he have done better? Also, yes. Both of these things can be true.

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As for Albin, I don't really see the need to try an reinvent the wheel or continue what Solich did with a worse coach. He doesn't really have any excuse for the lack of in game coaching acumen or recruiting misses given that he's been on this staff under Frank for so long. These are just as much his guys as they were Frank's. It would be an awesome story to see him turn it around and cement himself as a good coach, I just don't see it happening.

The program is stale and needs new blood that has nothing to do with Solich or Nebraska. Spare me the Scott Frost talk. And I like Frost as a coach.

Last Edited: 9/26/2022 11:15:52 AM by GoCats105

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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/26/2022 11:38:27 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:


My understanding is that a healthy part of that surplus came from Covid relief aid and the Cares Act.

Given that we laid off faculty members recently, and tried to burn our CFO at the stake because she got a 33k bonus, we should probably be pretty thoughtful about how we spend money. And buying out a coach who is free to fire in a year seems like a silly investment, especially given that he oversees a program that loses money and hasn't won anything of note in 30 years. A one year head start seems like a bad use of money. Of alums want it, they should've paid for it.


If you read my post, my only reference to buying out Albin was that,
when I made that suggestion, O.U. was touting a relatively large surplus.

The "buy out ship" sailed ,after last season, when O.U. decided to keep Albin for at least another year.

I don't recall O.U.'s Board specifically saying the surplus was related to Covid aid.

But, regardless of where the surplus came from, I agree with you that O.U. should be "pretty thoughtful" in how they spend money.

In my opinion, repairing/replacing rehab pools is a "pretty thoughtful" way
to spend money.







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   Posted: 9/26/2022 2:07:15 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:


If Pellini was not an abusive asshole, he would still be there.


Yep, makes sense. Just pointing out that there's a lot of folks insisting that Solich was as good as Nebraska could have done, but Pellini did better.

Just a reminder for you, but when Nebraska fired Solich, they also fired Pelini. I Wonder what the next few years might have been like, had they left Solich-Pelini together? My suspicion is that that Nebraska would not have have fallen off the cliff, and that team might have been in place for a few years.


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   Posted: 9/26/2022 4:26:36 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:


If Pellini was not an abusive asshole, he would still be there.


Yep, makes sense. Just pointing out that there's a lot of folks insisting that Solich was as good as Nebraska could have done, but Pellini did better.

Just a reminder for you, but when Nebraska fired Solich, they also fired Pelini. I Wonder what the next few years might have been like, had they left Solich-Pelini together? My suspicion is that that Nebraska would not have have fallen off the cliff, and that team might have been in place for a few years.


Yeah and Bo was passed up and frustrated at many places because he couldn’t get a chance. His history has shown why.
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   Posted: 9/28/2022 12:25:17 AM 
I don’t know if Tim is necessarily a bad coach I just think it’s time to move on from the Frank Solich era.
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   Posted: 9/28/2022 8:33:30 AM 
TB is already ahead of last years W-L record.
Now there are 8 games left.
I believe he will keep his job if he can reach a 6-6 year.
However, I have doubts that we will win 4 more games due to our awful defense.
I keep reminding myself that we had little choice but to promote TB based on when Frank retired. If his contract is only guaranteed for 2 years then the AD made a wise decision.





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   Posted: 9/28/2022 10:11:33 AM 
71 BOBCAT wrote:
TB is already ahead of last years W-L record.
Now there are 8 games left.
I believe he will keep his job if he can reach a 6-6 year.
However, I have doubts that we will win 4 more games due to our awful defense.
I keep reminding myself that we had little choice but to promote TB based on when Frank retired. If his contract is only guaranteed for 2 years then the AD made a wise decision.





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Albin was a horrible hire but under the circumstances they were over a barrel.

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   Posted: 9/28/2022 9:47:41 PM 
ohiocatfan1 wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
TB is already ahead of last years W-L record.
Now there are 8 games left.
I believe he will keep his job if he can reach a 6-6 year.
However, I have doubts that we will win 4 more games due to our awful defense.
I keep reminding myself that we had little choice but to promote TB based on when Frank retired. If his contract is only guaranteed for 2 years then the AD made a wise decision

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Albin was a horrible hire but under the circumstances they were over a barrel.



The real mistake was the contract. In hind sight the AD should have told Frank you cannot retire but we will put you on a medical leave and you may pick who you want to be acting head coach. And we will name the field after you for this final act to help OHIO football. Oh, and if your pick does really well, that person may be able to interview for the opening.

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   Posted: 9/28/2022 10:55:31 PM 
ohiocatfan1 wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
TB is already ahead of last years W-L record.
Now there are 8 games left.
I believe he will keep his job if he can reach a 6-6 year.
However, I have doubts that we will win 4 more games due to our awful defense.
I keep reminding myself that we had little choice but to promote TB based on when Frank retired. If his contract is only guaranteed for 2 years then the AD made a wise decision.





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Albin was a horrible hire but under the circumstances they were over a barrel.



He was a horrible hire, but he was the best hire for the situation. That's what I take from this comment.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Shall Coach Albin Remain?
   Posted: 9/29/2022 7:40:48 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
ohiocatfan1 wrote:
71 BOBCAT wrote:
TB is already ahead of last years W-L record.
Now there are 8 games left.
I believe he will keep his job if he can reach a 6-6 year.
However, I have doubts that we will win 4 more games due to our awful defense.
I keep reminding myself that we had little choice but to promote TB based on when Frank retired. If his contract is only guaranteed for 2 years then the AD made a wise decision

GO BOBCATS


Albin was a horrible hire but under the circumstances they were over a barrel.



The real mistake was the contract. In hind sight the AD should have told Frank you cannot retire but we will put you on a medical leave and you may pick who you want to be acting head coach. And we will name the field after you for this final act to help OHIO football. Oh, and if your pick does really well, that person may be able to interview for the opening.


We're sorry, Frank. You might have a life threatening, irreversible heart condition, but you simply cannot retire. Our football program is more important.

Does that sound about right?




Last Edited: 9/29/2022 7:41:19 AM by SBH

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