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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/3/2020 7:29:32 PM 
Expect our cuts any day. Sad and tough day in an industry that in many ways looked promising

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/3/2020 10:29:44 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Expect our cuts any day. Sad and tough day in an industry that in many ways looked promising

https://amp.freep.com/amp/3075445001


I would expect anything less than the 15% that Nellis took to cause quite the commotion.

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SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/4/2020 8:43:34 AM 
What exactly had "looked promising" in mid-major college athletics?

Last Edited: 5/4/2020 8:43:52 AM by SBH

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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/4/2020 11:35:11 AM 
With 140 hourly workers losing their jobs at the end of the month, not cutting the salaries of some of the highest paid employees would be a tough sell.


We will get by.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/4/2020 12:16:36 PM 
SBH wrote:
What exactly had "looked promising" in mid-major college athletics?



A job in athletics at a government institution is one you never thought would be in jeopardy. That's the promising aspect. Now, was that misguided thoughts? Sure, but it's still a thought on how many looked at Athletics career wise.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/8/2020 2:53:50 PM 
Oddly, some will be more secure in their jobs. No way programs will be able to do buyouts on any head coaches.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/8/2020 3:27:24 PM 
. wrote:
Oddly, some will be more secure in their jobs. No way programs will be able to do buyouts on any head coaches.


I will say this, and have had a couple off the record conversations on this topic; Some AD's are going to be willing to let their coaches hang themselves out to dry if they can fire them for cause. That way they can turn around and pull a WMU to go get a cheaper coach. So don't be shocked to watch that happen with a few institutions, as I think there will be a round 2 of firings to happen.
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ou79
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/8/2020 9:34:50 PM 
Interestingly, West Virginia University just announced salary cuts for the head coaches of football, mbb and wbb. I think 10% each. In another story along these lines, Oklahoma State just agreed with a home for home game in mbb with Oral Roberts University in an effort to cut costs. Of course in that case Okie State could dress in Iba arena on campus and be at Mabee Center in about 45 minutes. Plus, a ton of OSU alumni live in Tulsa and Mabee Center seats 10,500 comfortably. However, I think you will see P-5 teams be willing to make these types of deals in the near future to save $$$. Point is even in the Big-12 efforts are being made to cut costs. ORU plays OSU annually in every sport and has home/home deals except for mbb. The move now in mbb is to save OSU $$$. Previously ORU playing at OSU in mbb was a money game for ORU. The last time OSU played in Mabee Center was 1997.

Last Edited: 5/8/2020 9:44:20 PM by ou79

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/9/2020 10:09:01 AM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
. wrote:
Oddly, some will be more secure in their jobs. No way programs will be able to do buyouts on any head coaches.


I will say this, and have had a couple off the record conversations on this topic; Some AD's are going to be willing to let their coaches hang themselves out to dry if they can fire them for cause. That way they can turn around and pull a WMU to go get a cheaper coach. So don't be shocked to watch that happen with a few institutions, as I think there will be a round 2 of firings to happen.


Under this scenario what would be some examples of cause?

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cbus cat fan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/9/2020 11:30:29 AM 
A lot of these cuts in the big time athletic conferences, especially the Big 12 are window dressing to say the least. Imagine you are an employee of some Big 12 school like West Virginia or Oklahoma State, and you are on furlough wondering if you will get your job back. The fact that Mike Leach might only make 4.5 million, instead of his contracted 5 million dollar, or Neal Brown might only make 10% of his multi million dollar salary is of little consolation to you. Power Conferences will make window dressing cuts to athletics, for non-Power Conferences it is a totally different equation.
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   Posted: 5/9/2020 2:30:15 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
A lot of these cuts in the big time athletic conferences, especially the Big 12 are window dressing to say the least. Imagine you are an employee of some Big 12 school like West Virginia or Oklahoma State, and you are on furlough wondering if you will get your job back. The fact that Mike Leach might only make 4.5 million, instead of his contracted 5 million dollar, or Neal Brown might only make 10% of his multi million dollar salary is of little consolation to you. Power Conferences will make window dressing cuts to athletics, for non-Power Conferences it is a totally different equation.

The furloughs at West Virginia are through July 26, the last full week before the pandemic unemployment insurance bonus is scheduled to run out. Rightly or wrongly, it seems that this was timed for the school to shift costs to the feds during that window.
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Jeff McKinney
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/10/2020 7:52:53 PM 
Some of these cuts and furloughs I'm reading about don't seem large enough to deal with the problems.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/10/2020 8:30:23 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Some of these cuts and furloughs I'm reading about don't seem large enough to deal with the problems.


At some places, its just window dressing to appease some faculty.
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Hits keep comin
   Posted: 5/10/2020 9:47:57 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
A lot of these cuts in the big time athletic conferences, especially the Big 12 are window dressing to say the least. Imagine you are an employee of some Big 12 school like West Virginia or Oklahoma State, and you are on furlough wondering if you will get your job back. The fact that Mike Leach might only make 4.5 million, instead of his contracted 5 million dollar, or Neal Brown might only make 10% of his multi million dollar salary is of little consolation to you. Power Conferences will make window dressing cuts to athletics, for non-Power Conferences it is a totally different equation.

I was startled when I read this, but checked, and it is incorrect. Neal Brown will make 90% of his multi-million dollar salary.

I do agree that a 10% cut is just window dressing.


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