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Topic:  RE: Arkley, OT

Topic:  RE: Arkley, OT
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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/14/2020 11:20:58 AM 
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Travel budget. Insurance. No way on earth he could make it on a solo subscription service.

Our official Ohio athletics Youtube videos get literally dozens of views. If Ohio didnít play a game this fall, outside of this board no one would blink.The market is not there.

Guys in markets like Pittsburgh and Boston couldnít make a go of it on their own websites. ESPN...DISNEY...dropped team beat writers. The Athletic is on borrowed VC money time.

Weíre headed to a world where sports writing is a hobby you do on the side from your couch.

Itís okay. The world will survive if it doesnít get coachspeak pablum after every game. The bubble was gonna burst. It just happened in a weird way.


Nonsense, you're preaching corporate propaganda that discourages startups. That is their goal, to eliminate competition.

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I didn't major in Journalism, so I'm not going to pretend to understand the intricacies of the business. However, I did major in Finance, so I will pretend to do some numbers.

On a pure revenue basis (no costs)

If he charged $5 a month
100 annual subscribers=$6,000
500 annual subscribers=$30,000
1,000 annual subscribers=$60,000
5,000 annual subscribers=$300,000

I have no clue what Arkley's salary was at the Messenger, and my point wasn't to suggest he'd immediately be able to make as much money as he way making... He'd need to build it up like any business... Realistically, the 1,000 subscriber number gives you some room for costs and puts you at a comfortable livings (especially in SWO)

Obviously, you would aim for more and 1,000 subscribers is a lot considering Ohio is a mid-major and not all Ohio University alums are like the diehards on this board. But that is where a business needs to get creative. Offering single articles for 99 cents or some kind of discount for college kids or casual fans is the route I would personally take (again, not a J-School guy)

Not sure he would be able to take a lot of road-trips either, but was the Messenger really sending him a lot of places? Get creative. I flew Frontier and Jet Blue to the Bahamas and stayed in an Air-BnB for 1/2 the price of the Atlantis Resort... Took bus from there to the game for 50 cents... (paid $6 for 12 bud lights at game, but that is neither here nor there)

...

It's worth a shot. Worst-case, he does it and it just becomes a side hussle. That's better than nothing IMO.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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Pete Chouteau
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/14/2020 7:51:07 PM 
Do you actually think there's even 500 of us that would put forward $60 a year?

We are not big enough to be small potatoes.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/16/2020 6:01:54 PM 
Imagine how quickly someone could sink your operation with a single libel suit. No corporate lawyer on retainer.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/17/2020 3:20:07 PM 
While I don't think the Dispatch, unlike the PD and Messenger, has hit rock bottom yet, it still has its share of mistakes you didn't see until recently.
From today's article on the Columbus Association of the Performing Arts laying off some of it's workforce:

"On Monday, CAPA temporarily laid about 30 of its 100 or so employees."

Made me wonder about the 70 or so who weren't laid. Also, how is this done temporarily?

Last Edited: 4/17/2020 3:23:44 PM by bobcatsquared

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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/17/2020 3:59:48 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
While I don't think the Dispatch, unlike the PD and Messenger, has hit rock bottom yet, it still has its share of mistakes you didn't see until recently.
From today's article on the Columbus Association of the Performing Arts laying off some of it's workforce:

"On Monday, CAPA temporarily laid about 30 of its 100 or so employees."

Made me wonder about the 70 or so who weren't laid. Also, how is this done temporarily?


Frankly I'm more interested in how it's done permanently.

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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/17/2020 4:21:37 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
While I don't think the Dispatch, unlike the PD and Messenger, has hit rock bottom yet, it still has its share of mistakes you didn't see until recently.
From today's article on the Columbus Association of the Performing Arts laying off some of it's workforce:

"On Monday, CAPA temporarily laid about 30 of its 100 or so employees."

Made me wonder about the 70 or so who weren't laid. Also, how is this done temporarily?


Frankly I'm more interested in how it's done permanently.



And to add insult to injury, those who didn't get laid had their pay cut by 20-30%. Maybe that's how CAPA afforded to get the 30 employees laid.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/17/2020 4:38:59 PM 
Pete Chouteau wrote:
Do you actually think there's even 500 of us that would put forward $60 a year?

We are not big enough to be small potatoes.


He would certainly need to expand his topic beyond Athens and OU - but a professional MAC or State of Ohio beat writer could garner the needed subscribers.
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MedinaCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/18/2020 7:35:21 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Pete Chouteau wrote:
Do you actually think there's even 500 of us that would put forward $60 a year?

We are not big enough to be small potatoes.


He would certainly need to expand his topic beyond Athens and OU - but a professional MAC or State of Ohio beat writer could garner the needed subscribers.


He could also hitch his wagon to the Joe Burrow train, similar to what Brian Windhorst did with Lebron James. Not comparing Burrow to James, but Arkley could expand and focus on a few niches that would enable him to cobble together a decent living.

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SBH
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/22/2020 4:11:34 PM 
Yep. See today's Dayton Daily News:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/here-comes-joe-coo... /
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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: Arkley, OT
   Posted: 4/22/2020 5:36:09 PM 
SBH wrote:
Yep. See today's Dayton Daily News:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/here-comes-joe-coo... /


Nice


I've seen crazier things happen.

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