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ExCat21
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  Message Not Read  College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/10/2020 12:41:30 PM 
Now article speaking on college football's attendance decline. The Big10, the MAC and Sunbelt have positive increase percentages.

My guess of why this is happening is because of the super conferences. When conferences re-aligned and added two more teams.....that means there will be more bottom feeders in the conference. So schools like Tennessee and South Carolina in football will take a backseat to Texas A&M and Missouri. Hence their attendance will decline.

What this article does mention that I think was an awesome idea was BYUs Athletic Director. He stated they added Food Trucks to their entertainment experience which helped in a season where they went 7-6.

I would love to see food truck park at OU. And not just the Burtito Buggy. What are your thoughts?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-f... /
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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 1:24:00 AM 
ExCat21 wrote:
Now article speaking on college football's attendance decline. The Big10, the MAC and Sunbelt have positive increase percentages.

My guess of why this is happening is because of the super conferences. When conferences re-aligned and added two more teams.....that means there will be more bottom feeders in the conference. So schools like Tennessee and South Carolina in football will take a backseat to Texas A&M and Missouri. Hence their attendance will decline.

What this article does mention that I think was an awesome idea was BYUs Athletic Director. He stated they added Food Trucks to their entertainment experience which helped in a season where they went 7-6.

I would love to see food truck park at OU. And not just the Burtito Buggy. What are your thoughts?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-f... /


All sports have declining attendance.
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Ted Thompson
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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 8:06:55 AM 
BTC, I anecdotally see it in high school as well. Do the numbers back that up?


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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 9:05:18 AM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
BTC, I anecdotally see it in high school as well. Do the numbers back that up?


One contributing factor is the decline of the local high school as the center of the community - by that I mean you used to see parents and grandparents in the stands who graduated from that high school. With increased mobility, in some cases, the majority of the parents of current students in a given high school.graduated in another town or state. Those parents just don't have the affinity for the local school.

Another is a lack of kids playing. I was talking with a local official just the other day and he mentioned he had several games this year where the high school didn't have enough kids to field a jv basketball team. I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.

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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 10:21:04 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
. . . I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.


Yes, this sort of thing is getting out of hand, IMHO. Let kids just play ball by themselves at the local park, the vacant lot down the street or their backyard. Organized sports for kids should not start until maybe about fourth grade, and then it should be somewhat low key. And, it should be on the kid's own initiative. I've heard of too many cases where the parent's push a kid into a sport that the child never wanted to play in the first place.


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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 10:40:32 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:
BTC, I anecdotally see it in high school as well. Do the numbers back that up?


One contributing factor is the decline of the local high school as the center of the community - by that I mean you used to see parents and grandparents in the stands who graduated from that high school. With increased mobility, in some cases, the majority of the parents of current students in a given high school.graduated in another town or state. Those parents just don't have the affinity for the local school.

Another is a lack of kids playing. I was talking with a local official just the other day and he mentioned he had several games this year where the high school didn't have enough kids to field a jv basketball team. I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.



Is it the lack of kids playing or lack of kids playing multiple sports? I was talking with a varsity girls basketball coach and he was telling me how numbers were down in that sport. A big part he thought was reduction in multiple sport athletes and addition of other sports like lacrosse. At the youth level, the numbers appear to be fine but then these athletes don't show up in high school.


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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/11/2020 12:17:59 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:
BTC, I anecdotally see it in high school as well. Do the numbers back that up?


One contributing factor is the decline of the local high school as the center of the community - by that I mean you used to see parents and grandparents in the stands who graduated from that high school. With increased mobility, in some cases, the majority of the parents of current students in a given high school.graduated in another town or state. Those parents just don't have the affinity for the local school.

Another is a lack of kids playing. I was talking with a local official just the other day and he mentioned he had several games this year where the high school didn't have enough kids to field a jv basketball team. I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.



Is it the lack of kids playing or lack of kids playing multiple sports? I was talking with a varsity girls basketball coach and he was telling me how numbers were down in that sport. A big part he thought was reduction in multiple sport athletes and addition of other sports like lacrosse. At the youth level, the numbers appear to be fine but then these athletes don't show up in high school.



My son's swim coach believes that as kids get farther into high school they have a lot of other interests that take priority, such as theater, band, choir, jobs and even dating. Many of the practices and rehearsals are scheduled at the same time, so kids make their choices.

Plus participating in sports can be expensive. My son's high school had a $95 fee per kid for each sport. They had a maximum per family, but many families can't afford several hundred dollars in participation fees every year.


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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/12/2020 7:31:15 AM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
BTC, I anecdotally see it in high school as well. Do the numbers back that up?


Overall yes, obviously there are areas with strong participation rates and solid attendance numbers, but definitely a decline in our region and across the state.
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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/12/2020 8:52:38 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
. . . I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.


Yes, this sort of thing is getting out of hand, IMHO. Let kids just play ball by themselves at the local park, the vacant lot down the street or their backyard. Organized sports for kids should not start until maybe about fourth grade, and then it should be somewhat low key. And, it should be on the kid's own initiative. I've heard of too many cases where the parent's push a kid into a sport that the child never wanted to play in the first place.



I would counter with, like so many things in life, balance and moderation are key here. My son is in his final year of preschool and played rec soccer last spring and is again this year in our local athletic association. Practice is once a week for an hour along with one game a week that takes about an hour, including halftime and post-game treats.

It's only 2 hours out of the week so he's hardly facing burnout or fatigue. Gives him physical activity, some basic structure, and the chance to make friends in the community before starting Kindergarten.

Totally agree to the other part about parents forcing kids into things they may not want to do. Our only rule is if they start a season, they have to finish it out and this is only after we affirm about 100 times they really want to do ______________.


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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/12/2020 9:29:50 AM 
It's possible that attendance might take a bigger hit than usual this year, and fall 100%. The year after that, though, attendance should be up.


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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/12/2020 7:18:22 PM 
Talk to me when idiots are done pricing.

It's one thing I've always taken pride in with Ohio. We have always had affordable pricing and comes down to what folks want to do with their discretionary income. Not as crazy as the idiots in Columbus.....
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  Message Not Read  RE: College Football Attendance Declining
   Posted: 3/13/2020 11:21:29 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
. . . I honestly think that we are putting kids into organized sports too young that they lose interest before they get to junior high or high school. I ran into a mother the other day who had her daughter in kindergarten basketball.


Yes, this sort of thing is getting out of hand, IMHO. Let kids just play ball by themselves at the local park, the vacant lot down the street or their backyard. Organized sports for kids should not start until maybe about fourth grade, and then it should be somewhat low key. And, it should be on the kid's own initiative. I've heard of too many cases where the parent's push a kid into a sport that the child never wanted to play in the first place.



I would counter with, like so many things in life, balance and moderation are key here. My son is in his final year of preschool and played rec soccer last spring and is again this year in our local athletic association. Practice is once a week for an hour along with one game a week that takes about an hour, including halftime and post-game treats.

It's only 2 hours out of the week so he's hardly facing burnout or fatigue. Gives him physical activity, some basic structure, and the chance to make friends in the community before starting Kindergarten.

Totally agree to the other part about parents forcing kids into things they may not want to do. Our only rule is if they start a season, they have to finish it out and this is only after we affirm about 100 times they really want to do ______________.



Agree. That's what I see with my grandsons, ages 5 and 7.

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