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Topic: RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Topic: RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

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Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 1:44:16 PM

Alan - We've known each other at least digitally for decades, and by now you should know 2 things about me. 1 I would hope you'd learned a thing or 2 about my character enough to refrain from making the hints you're making. 2 You've definitely observed that I won't hold back by my genuine thoughts and an angry mob will never silence me.

BLSS - I am no expert on the set up of any and all orgs surrounding the University. I just know the Black Alumni Reunion was an official university event. I acknowledge the university files and may monitor other extracurricular groups of all kinds, but I don't think they are planning parties for the Korean Culture Club.

Again, any group can gather for whatever reason they feel binds them together. But a public institution making those decisions and distinctions is not something I like to see happen. You've asked who is harmed...no there is no tangible direct harm on the event taking place. But I do think society at large is indeed harmed when people find it appropriate to assemble on the basis of race. My buddy greencat jumped right in and shouted about all the horrible white clubs that USED to exist, are you using that behavior you abhor to justify this current behavior you adore? How does that make sense?

To get into the details of this decision, I actually think it is another case of "malicious compliance" where they strive to create the headline to make the legislation look bad and induce rage (mission accomplished). I personally took the spirit of the directive from the federal government to be centered on admissions, scholarships, aid and other direct benefits. I highly doubt social gatherings would have jeopardized anything, but I suppose time will tell.

As the angry responses will continue to flow in, I should mention that I am not going to take the bait on all these rabbit trails. I am far from a blind supporter of Trump but if you want to attach everything he says or does to me that is your right, but I am not gonna waste my time with anything other than the conversation at hand.

Andrew Ruck
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greencat
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 3:07:26 PM

#1) I'm not "your buddy"

#2) My statement "How many other groups could attack our nation's capitol and get pardoned?" seems to go unchallenged and stands without question. Say hello to your "J6 choir" for all of us.

Turdhats
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 3:39:43 PM

greencat wrote:

There have been "all white" groups in this country forever.

Besides the restricted country clubs and the like, in 2023, there were 165 active white nationalist groups across the United States.

Those poor white gentiles... they are soooooooooooooo discriminated against. How many other groups could attack our nation's capitol and get pardoned?

Turdhats
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 3:41:50 PM

greencat wrote:

Sorry I missed your response earlier.

I have family that have the same response as Andrew when pushed.

Last Edited: 3/7/2025 3:58:05 PM by Turdhats

Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 4:29:50 PM

greencat wrote:

My statement "How many other groups could attack our nation's capitol and get pardoned?" seems to go unchallenged and stands without question. Say hello to your "J6 choir" for all of us.

Your statement is stupid and irrelevant, and part of why I made my last point in my last post.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 4:37:30 PM

Not making any comment on the desirability of canning DEI one way or the other, I would just like to point out that nobody is preventing an African American organization on campus, or a group of organizations, from sponsoring this year's Black Alumni Reunion. What is coming into question, as Andrew pointed out, is whether this is an appropriate event for the University to be funding since the invites to this reunion go to people with a particular skin color.

Any ethnic or racial group on campus still has the right of free association and can put together any kind of meeting or reunion that they care to. I suppose that I could arrange for an Icelandic Alumni Reunion. Over the years there have been probably 30 to 40 Icelandic students study at Ohio, and my late mother was the unofficial and unpaid advisor to virtually all of them. Nothing prevents me, other than lack of funds, from sponsoring a reunion of those grads. Such a reunion would be at the opposite end of the melanin-production gradient of the human species.

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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 4:41:59 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

greencat wrote:

My statement "How many other groups could attack our nation's capitol and get pardoned?" seems to go unchallenged and stands without question. Say hello to your "J6 choir" for all of us.

Your statement is stupid and irrelevant, and part of why I made my last point in my last post.

The statement "How many other groups could attack our nation's capitol and get pardoned?" blows everything you say and stand for out of the water.

--> GAME - SET - MATCH <--

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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 5:17:03 PM

All supporters of trump support him blindly and unquestioningly.

Otherwise, they would not support him at all.

Turdhats
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/7/2025 5:24:08 PM

greencat wrote:

All supporters of trump support him blindly and unquestioningly.

Otherwise, they would not support him at all.

I got you. As someone born/raised and lived all my 40+ years in southern ohio. I know dog whistles.

giacomo
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 8:32:13 AM

The right wants �freedom� unless they don�t like it.

BillyTheCat
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 9:22:33 AM

giacomo wrote:

The right wants �freedom� unless they don�t like it.

+1

And when you look at the historic racial diversity on our campus, every homecoming is white homecoming! The canceling the women's event at OU L is just as outrageous, pandering to the OHIO legislature, the Attorney General and their threats.

Deciduous Forest Cat
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 10:06:37 AM

As far as I can tell, all alumni were invited to celebrate with EBN at Ohio University. I know I got the emails and others have confirmed the same with me.

Do I belong there? I don't know. Would I love to go and learn something about another's experience and challenges? Absolutely. Should the university also sponsor a white alum network event? I suppose they could. Is there any such need for it? What would be the point? But if it existed I hope all could be included and share unique experiences. Why should a public University be threatened with loss of funding that would affect everybody because they sponsor something that is an absolute positive?

If I may editorialize here, I would not do well with the type of people who would RSVP positively to an All-white event. The robes and burning crosses would turn me off, and I would be shot on sight. But I would go down swinging and cursing.

if the EBN network event isn't for me, I sure wasn't offended by the idea that it exists, or that the University sponsors it. I'm glad they sponsor it.

I stand by my original comment.

Last Edited: 3/8/2025 10:07:39 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat

JimLurker34
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 10:28:15 AM

greencat wrote:

giacomo wrote:

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/athens/citing-dei-c... /

This is sick. What a clown we have in the White House.

It's what 49% voted for (and 100% of uneducated hillbillies).

You are aware that their are black hillbillies?

Turdhats
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 10:44:20 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Sorry for jumping on again.
But this is better than what I could have said.

Alan Swank
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 11:37:19 AM

https://www.dispatch.com/story/opinion/letters/2025/03/08... /

giacomo
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 1:10:25 PM

Very good opinion piece and right on the money. There will be fallout as many donors may decide to not donate to Ohio University in the future.

Alan Swank
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 1:27:08 PM

giacomo wrote:

Very good opinion piece and right on the money. There will be fallout as many donors may decide to not donate to Ohio University in the future.

You are absolutely correct. Having worked in institutional advancement, I've seen first hand where university decisions have had profound effects on initial giving as well as continued giving. Those who tend to give were very involved when they were students on their respective campuses. When the legs get cut off of what they identified with and were a part of, their hands go in their pockets.

BillyTheCat
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 2:19:04 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

giacomo wrote:

Very good opinion piece and right on the money. There will be fallout as many donors may decide to not donate to Ohio University in the future.

Our institution is getting really good at stepping on their own dick for nothing. People just forgetting about banning the 110, the wrestling team, about any group on campus.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/8/2025 10:02:15 PM

The writer's best point in that piece is that OU admins jumped high before anyone asked them, and that a party has nothing to do with race-based decision making. As I stated before, I really don't think this was a necessary reaction to the federal government statements. But otherwise the dramatization is thick. Reaching to suggest they'll change the name of Templeton-Blackburn and saying "black alumni are no longer welcome on campus." Come on. As part of her childish rants she even says "OU needs to hear from and see alumni of all races..." does she realize the irony in her statement?

Acting like this somehow means the right is against freedom is predictable. Public officials dictating the actions of public institutions is NOT a contradiction to the personal freedom the right champions. Just like when they claimed a years long narrative that the right was "banning books" when in reality they just didn't want inappropriate content included in public school libraries and no one ever suggested banning them. To suggest any of this is an attack of minority groups right to assemble in their personal lives is way off base.

greencat - You're so clearly closed off and unstable regarding politics it is hard to even know where to begin. The statement "All supporters of trump support him blindly and unquestioningly" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, and everything that is wrong with political discourse. But you already declared yourself the winner, so I guess that is it. Congratulations.

DCF - If white people are invited, great...I really don't care. It is still called the Black Alumni Reunion and seems to be a bizarre thing for the University to put on. Imagine if your High School did it, wouldn't it be weird? Should your kid's preschool have a black kids only day? I just think it's all weird and counterproductive.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 9:08:15 AM

Since the blindly loyal mrs. trump ^ ^ doesn't think book bans exist...

https://pen.org/banned-books-list-2025 /

Andrew Ruck
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 5:53:34 PM

I point out no one was calling for book bans, and instead for removal of certain books in public school libraries, and you post a list of books removed from public school libraries as proof books are being banned. Did you even read what I wrote? Or what the website you provided says?

Let me explain this for you, even though I'm breaking my vow to avoid dumb political rabbit trails. Millions of books exist. The average school library has certain size limitations and therefore not all books are included. Are those chosen not to be included automatically considered banned? I wrote a fun book for my kids years ago, can I now go around and tell people that my book has been banned because they chose not to include it?

And the idea that there aren't books that exist that shouldn't be available to kids is asinine. Of course there are countless that are not appropriate for a SCHOOL.

Andrew Ruck
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Alan Swank
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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 5:58:28 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Andrew - I appreciate what you've said here but at this point, we're all just expressing opinions but I'm going to pull rank/experience here. In my 34 years in the yearbook business visiting and teaching in more than half of the states in the US, I saw first hand how some school boards on both the far left and far right actually dictated content and practice in the schools they served. Now we have a legistlator in Ohio that wants school board candidates to run as partisans. In this super charged climate, the thought of candidates running as a member of a party scares the heck out of me. I've seen first hand how bad that can be in the states that have partisan school board elections. Somehow Brenner believes that putting a letter after a school board candidate's name will better inform the voters. That's painting with a very wide brush. You're no more a right wing nut job than I am a left wing radical. My bet is that we aren't too far apart on either side of the middle.

The point is, this sweeping set of rule changes, guidelines and threats is scaring the hell out of many people hence the responses we're seeing on this board and other social media sites. Cancelling a thirty year tradition is just the latest action that ads to that fear.

Last Edited: 3/9/2025 7:25:56 PM by Alan Swank

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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 6:20:12 PM

61% of the (R) party as of 2022 opposed the separation of church and state.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/republicans-ch... /

It is probably more by now.

You'll notice that none of them EVER condemn anything the (R) now stands for? Even the J6 insurrection and more recently the pardons? The support for putin. The transphobia. The xenophobia. The selling out of our government to a racist from South Africa. Putting an anti-vaxxer in charge of the nation's healthcare.

There is not enough bandwidth to post a complete list.

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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 7:52:37 PM

School districts are beginning to pull the Bible from their shelves and not simply the to kill
a mockingbirds of literature so there�s that

Last Edited: 3/9/2025 7:57:48 PM by cc-cat

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RE: OHIO University cancels Black Alumni Weekend

Posted: 3/9/2025 9:15:51 PM

In case any one on this thread needs a local Metin or two to keep there membership active. Here is a list of local chapters.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map /

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