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Topic:  $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years

Topic:  $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 2/28/2020 2:24:58 PM 
$26Million to Academics and $8 million to Administrative units
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RPO R6V
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 2/29/2020 12:57:45 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
$26Million to Academics and $8 million to Administrative units


Waiting for the "how much will the athletics budget be cut?" comment.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 2/29/2020 3:25:25 PM 
RPO R6V wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
$26Million to Academics and $8 million to Administrative units


Waiting for the "how much will the athletics budget be cut?" comment.


Gotta keep paying to go to Potato Bowls.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/1/2020 10:54:13 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
$26Million to Academics and $8 million to Administrative units


But we're not in a budget crisis.

https://www.athensnews.com/news/campus/ou-academic-colleg...

And forget that Jeff and Frank are 1 and 2, here's that data base that shows where all the money is going in terms of salaries.

http://projects.thepostathens.com/SpecialProjects/the-pos...

Last Edited: 3/1/2020 6:14:49 PM by Alan Swank

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MonroeClassmate
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/2/2020 9:57:31 PM 
I am a sinner...

I am coveting the incomes of many on this list..non-teaching of course. Mind blown, I had no idea that administration jobs pay SO HIGH and that there are SO MANY of them.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/2/2020 11:08:05 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
I am a sinner...

I am coveting the incomes of many on this list..non-teaching of course. Mind blown, I had no idea that administration jobs pay SO HIGH and that there are SO MANY of them.



Check this out - just one administrative unit - university advancement. I'd love to see an organizational chart.

https://www.ohio.edu/advancement/staff
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 1:02:27 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
I am a sinner...

I am coveting the incomes of many on this list..non-teaching of course. Mind blown, I had no idea that administration jobs pay SO HIGH and that there are SO MANY of them.



Check this out - just one administrative unit - university advancement. I'd love to see an organizational chart.

https://www.ohio.edu/advancement/staff


Only counted 106 or so. Of which 90+ were either directors or assistant directors. In 15 years 1,000 “administrative” jobs created.
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 7:10:14 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:


Check this out - just one administrative unit - university advancement. I'd love to see an organizational chart.

https://www.ohio.edu/advancement/staff


And their job description and background.

As I've posted,I work with FDU in Teaneck,N.J.

"Top Heavy "doesn't begin the describe the ratio between
Administrative and "Faculty".

To be fair,its also amazing how little "teaching" a number of the
full time professors do.

Last Edited: 3/3/2020 7:10:39 AM by rpbobcat

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 8:33:45 AM 
Here's another recent administrative department.

https://www.ohio.edu/diversity/staff-directory
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 10:15:36 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
I am a sinner...

I am coveting the incomes of many on this list..non-teaching of course. Mind blown, I had no idea that administration jobs pay SO HIGH and that there are SO MANY of them.



Check this out - just one administrative unit - university advancement. I'd love to see an organizational chart.

https://www.ohio.edu/advancement/staff


Only counted 106 or so. Of which 90+ were either directors or assistant directors. In 15 years 1,000 “administrative” jobs created.


Sorry if this is too simplistic, but you chose a department whose job is to solicit money. If they bring in more than they cost, isn't this department worth it?
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 10:47:11 AM 
shabamon wrote:


Sorry if this is too simplistic, but you chose a department whose job is to solicit money. If they bring in more than they cost, isn't this department worth it?


It depends on how much more they bring in,then they cost.

Also,can they accomplish the same with less staff ?

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/3/2020 10:53:34 AM 
shabamon wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
I am a sinner...

I am coveting the incomes of many on this list..non-teaching of course. Mind blown, I had no idea that administration jobs pay SO HIGH and that there are SO MANY of them.



Check this out - just one administrative unit - university advancement. I'd love to see an organizational chart.

https://www.ohio.edu/advancement/staff


Only counted 106 or so. Of which 90+ were either directors or assistant directors. In 15 years 1,000 “administrative” jobs created.


Sorry if this is too simplistic, but you chose a department whose job is to solicit money. If they bring in more than they cost, isn't this department worth it?


Yes and no. It depends on what your expected return on investment is. What is an expected yield? I once worked in a business that had gross margins of over 65%. Of the money that OU gets, how much of it is raised versus that which falls out of the sky (the Patton money).

Here's an org chart for part of student affairs.

https://www.ohio.edu/student-affairs/sites/ohio.edu.stude...


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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: $34 Million to be cut in next 3 years
   Posted: 3/11/2020 3:34:35 PM 
Boals and Solich should be making in the range of the deans on the list, about 300k. We do not make money from athletics.
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