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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/20/2020 6:59:46 PM 
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/20/2020 10:26:38 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.

Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?

Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.

The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?

What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/20/2020 11:48:59 PM 
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.

Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?

Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.

The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?

What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.



No LC had we tested earlier, we could have identified the hot spots, we could have implemented social distancing earlier. What we should all do is be still for 20 days and the sick will emerge, there are still states like Oklahoma who are pretty lax. Every president has a failure and this was Trump’s, the testing was not perfect, just like the transcripts. What happened in Washington was a travesty, seven first responders got it due to a lack of testing and when they went to take patients from the nursing home to the emergency room, they infected others. 3m filled a 100 million mask order to Taiwan because trump failed to implement his emergency production powers to get mask for American health care workers, companies tried to 3D print the mask and they were sued by the likes of 3m. Let’s pray that it does not get much worst. Italy warned us and we thought we were far superior to them. Crazy


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/21/2020 10:25:38 AM 
allen wrote:
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.

Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?

Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.

The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?

What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.



No LC had we tested earlier, we could have identified the hot spots, we could have implemented social distancing earlier. What we should all do is be still for 20 days and the sick will emerge, there are still states like Oklahoma who are pretty lax. Every president has a failure and this was Trump’s, the testing was not perfect, just like the transcripts. What happened in Washington was a travesty, seven first responders got it due to a lack of testing and when they went to take patients from the nursing home to the emergency room, they infected others. 3m filled a 100 million mask order to Taiwan because trump failed to implement his emergency production powers to get mask for American health care workers, companies tried to 3D print the mask and they were sued by the likes of 3m. Let’s pray that it does not get much worst. Italy warned us and we thought we were far superior to them. Crazy

I guess we will have to disagree, allen. Had the testing been better, yes, it would have spread slower. However, had it spread slower, people wouldn't agree to social distancing. Maybe there would have been few enough cases that we would have tried to have March Madness, but then we'd be right back where we are now. We would ultimately have needed to get to the same point before we got the same result, and there are a lot of possible paths we could have taken to get here.

If you question my point, think back to Feb. 1, when they cancelled the Miami-CMU game. Suppose that, instead, they had cancelled the entire rest of the basketball season at that point. Would that have been accepted? Hardly. People would have thought it was a crazy over-reaction. It took a certain number of cases, and a certain amount of time passing, and a certain amount of awareness before it became possible.

In any case, it's not clear that even now social distancing is going to be enough, since young people don't agree with it. If the young people don't comply, it can't work. The US isn't like some of the dictatorships. If people don't comply, there is not a lot we can do about it.

In my opinion, since a vaccine will not be available for 18 months, in the long run, approximately the same number of people will get this, sooner or later, regardless of what we do, and regardless of what we might have done. The only real question is whether the cases will come so fast that they overwhelm the hospital system, in which case more people will die than should have died. Since we can still prevent that, nothing we have done to this point critically changes what happens in the future.

As I posted on another thread, on a brighter note, a drug that the Chinese announced success with back in early February has been tested in France, and it worked there, too, in a small case study. The drug, chloroquine, is a 20 year old malaria drug that is now available as a generic, and which can easily and quickly manufactured in quantity. This is exciting because it could be given inexpensively to anyone that tests positive. Even better, it might turn out to also be useful to give it prophylactically to anyone with known exposure, such as the front line medical staff, or anyone with a known exposure even before they show symptoms.

Last Edited: 3/21/2020 4:59:26 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/21/2020 9:03:04 PM 
L.C. wrote:
allen wrote:
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.

Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?

Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.

The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?

What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.



No LC had we tested earlier, we could have identified the hot spots, we could have implemented social distancing earlier. What we should all do is be still for 20 days and the sick will emerge, there are still states like Oklahoma who are pretty lax. Every president has a failure and this was Trump’s, the testing was not perfect, just like the transcripts. What happened in Washington was a travesty, seven first responders got it due to a lack of testing and when they went to take patients from the nursing home to the emergency room, they infected others. 3m filled a 100 million mask order to Taiwan because trump failed to implement his emergency production powers to get mask for American health care workers, companies tried to 3D print the mask and they were sued by the likes of 3m. Let’s pray that it does not get much worst. Italy warned us and we thought we were far superior to them. Crazy

I guess we will have to disagree, allen. Had the testing been better, yes, it would have spread slower. However, had it spread slower, people wouldn't agree to social distancing. Maybe there would have been few enough cases that we would have tried to have March Madness, but then we'd be right back where we are now. We would ultimately have needed to get to the same point before we got the same result, and there are a lot of possible paths we could have taken to get here.

If you question my point, think back to Feb. 1, when they cancelled the Miami-CMU game. Suppose that, instead, they had cancelled the entire rest of the basketball season at that point. Would that have been accepted? Hardly. People would have thought it was a crazy over-reaction. It took a certain number of cases, and a certain amount of time passing, and a certain amount of awareness before it became possible.

In any case, it's not clear that even now social distancing is going to be enough, since young people don't agree with it. If the young people don't comply, it can't work. The US isn't like some of the dictatorships. If people don't comply, there is not a lot we can do about it.

In my opinion, since a vaccine will not be available for 18 months, in the long run, approximately the same number of people will get this, sooner or later, regardless of what we do, and regardless of what we might have done. The only real question is whether the cases will come so fast that they overwhelm the hospital system, in which case more people will die than should have died. Since we can still prevent that, nothing we have done to this point critically changes what happens in the future.

As I posted on another thread, on a brighter note, a drug that the Chinese announced success with back in early February has been tested in France, and it worked there, too, in a small case study. The drug, chloroquine, is a 20 year old malaria drug that is now available as a generic, and which can easily and quickly manufactured in quantity. This is exciting because it could be given inexpensively to anyone that tests positive. Even better, it might turn out to also be useful to give it prophylactically to anyone with known exposure, such as the front line medical staff, or anyone with a known exposure even before they show symptoms.



That’s some some serious MAGA koolaid with faux anecdotal research. We have to see this with a clear lens, the Chinese were using a drug called redemsevir made by Gilead and a Japanese flu drug was also effective. We can’t be falling for a con man’s hunches. We are in the middle of a pandemic, no time for worshipping Trump’s silly talking points. I love you LC, but it is time to think critical.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/nigeri...
What was being studied
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/ncov-e...
The new drug showing promise.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/03/18/japane... /


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/21/2020 10:41:13 PM 
allen wrote:
L.C. wrote:
allen wrote:
L.C. wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
allen wrote:
Michigan’s cases went up by 300% yesterday, New York’s cases went up 115% and New Jersey’s (where we have an insider who said it is a hoax to get federal money) cases went up 165% yesterday. If we all stay home and follow the guidelines for 14 days most that are sick will be able to get tested and quarantine and we can stop the exponential spreading of the virus.


Considering we went months without testing, every day that we do test will show tremendous growth in this virus. With global travel, there is no way this virus just showed up here in the past month. When this is all over many deaths will be able to be traced back to this virus and our lack of testing and action.

Just to be clear, even with testing the cases would have come. Even with testing, the cases had to get to a certain level before people would take it seriously, and accept the restrictions necessary to stop it. Even with testing, how are you going to stop the stupidity of teens partying in mass groups for Spring Break, and then bringing the cases back and infecting many communities across the country?

Yes, we could have handled this much better, but in the end, sadly, the result would have been very much the same. It had to be. I think it was Italy, combined with the fact that our cases were ten days behind there that was the wake up call to all American, not just the politicians.

The key is where we go from here. Can we stop the stupidity? Can we maintain social distances and keep the economy running? Can we wash our hands often enough, and learn to not touch our mouth, nose, and eyes? Can we build additional hospitals where needed, fast enough to keep the deaths in the 1-2% range instead of 6-10%?

What we do from here out is much, much more important that what we have done to this point. We need to cut that partisan hate and bickering, and work together. We need to stop the ageist animosity, too. We CAN defeat this, but only if we work together.



No LC had we tested earlier, we could have identified the hot spots, we could have implemented social distancing earlier. What we should all do is be still for 20 days and the sick will emerge, there are still states like Oklahoma who are pretty lax. Every president has a failure and this was Trump’s, the testing was not perfect, just like the transcripts. What happened in Washington was a travesty, seven first responders got it due to a lack of testing and when they went to take patients from the nursing home to the emergency room, they infected others. 3m filled a 100 million mask order to Taiwan because trump failed to implement his emergency production powers to get mask for American health care workers, companies tried to 3D print the mask and they were sued by the likes of 3m. Let’s pray that it does not get much worst. Italy warned us and we thought we were far superior to them. Crazy

I guess we will have to disagree, allen. Had the testing been better, yes, it would have spread slower. However, had it spread slower, people wouldn't agree to social distancing. Maybe there would have been few enough cases that we would have tried to have March Madness, but then we'd be right back where we are now. We would ultimately have needed to get to the same point before we got the same result, and there are a lot of possible paths we could have taken to get here.

If you question my point, think back to Feb. 1, when they cancelled the Miami-CMU game. Suppose that, instead, they had cancelled the entire rest of the basketball season at that point. Would that have been accepted? Hardly. People would have thought it was a crazy over-reaction. It took a certain number of cases, and a certain amount of time passing, and a certain amount of awareness before it became possible.

In any case, it's not clear that even now social distancing is going to be enough, since young people don't agree with it. If the young people don't comply, it can't work. The US isn't like some of the dictatorships. If people don't comply, there is not a lot we can do about it.

In my opinion, since a vaccine will not be available for 18 months, in the long run, approximately the same number of people will get this, sooner or later, regardless of what we do, and regardless of what we might have done. The only real question is whether the cases will come so fast that they overwhelm the hospital system, in which case more people will die than should have died. Since we can still prevent that, nothing we have done to this point critically changes what happens in the future.

As I posted on another thread, on a brighter note, a drug that the Chinese announced success with back in early February has been tested in France, and it worked there, too, in a small case study. The drug, chloroquine, is a 20 year old malaria drug that is now available as a generic, and which can easily and quickly manufactured in quantity. This is exciting because it could be given inexpensively to anyone that tests positive. Even better, it might turn out to also be useful to give it prophylactically to anyone with known exposure, such as the front line medical staff, or anyone with a known exposure even before they show symptoms.



That’s some some serious MAGA koolaid with faux anecdotal research. We have to see this with a clear lens, the Chinese were using a drug called redemsevir made by Gilead and a Japanese flu drug was also effective. We can’t be falling for a con man’s hunches. We are in the middle of a pandemic, no time for worshipping Trump’s silly talking points. I love you LC, but it is time to think critical.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/nigeri...
What was being studied
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/ncov-e...
The new drug showing promise.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/03/18/japane... /

This was the recent French study that triggered the demand for choloquine
https://yournews.com/2020/03/19/1514340/french-study-find... /

Here is the earlier Chinese study:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0

Yes, the Chinese were using both chloroquine and redemsevir, as well as five other compounds. Both chloroquine and redemsevir were highly effective in vitro. Note, however that Redemsevir was also effective in vitro against SARS and Ebola, but failed in vivo against both, so the fact that it worked in vitro did not necessarily mean that it would work in vivo. The French combined the hydrocholoroquine with azithromycin, and showed it was highly effective, but the sample size was small, only 6 people. In this urgent time, that was enough to stimulate a lot of interest in it, especially since it was consistent with the earlier Chinese research. Even if it ultimately turns out to be an effective treatment, that does not mean it's a good idea to self-medicate with random dosages, however.

In any case, the 6 patient study will not be the final word. There are 20 studies currently going on in China on chloroquine, and more about to begin in England. It won't be long until we have more data.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32173110/?from_term=chlor...
Andrew Cortegiani, et al wrote:
Conclusions: There is rationale, pre-clinical evidence of effectiveness and evidence of safety from long-time clinical use for other indications to justify clinical research on chloroquine in patients with COVID-19. However, clinical use should either adhere to the Monitored Emergency Use of Unregistered Interventions (MEURI) framework or be ethically approved as a trial as stated by the World Health Organization. Safety data and data from high-quality clinical trials are urgently needed.


You didn't answer the question I posed, allen. Suppose that instead of cancelling the CMU-Miami game, they had cancelled the entire rest of the basketball season at that point. Do you think that would have been accepted?

To be clear, allen, the only place I disagree with most people here is on the attempts to politicize this. This is NOT a political problem, it is a health problem. We are all in this together. It is simply wrong to say that "If Trump was not an idiot, things would be fine". Regardless of whether one believes that Trump is an idiot or not, and regardless of what steps were taken, ultimately we always end up in the same place, with a health crisis. COVID19 is growing in every place on earth. Some places are doing better than others, but it is not a fight that can be "won" until an effective and safe vaccine is developed, tested, distributed, and administered in large quantities, and that is going to take 18 months. Thus, this going to be a long battle, and working together will be essential.

Last Edited: 3/22/2020 12:14:50 PM by L.C.


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   Posted: 3/22/2020 6:10:40 PM 
Here's a list of the countries with the most cases per 1m population. Once they go over 200cases/1m, many of these end up with overcrowded hospitals and a very high death rate:

San Marino 5158 (death rate 11.4%)
Faeroe Islands 2354
Iceland 1665
Andorra 1462
Luxembourg 1275
Vatican City 1248
Italy 978
Liechtenstein 970
Switzerland 864
Spain 612 (death rate 6.1%)
Monaco 586
Gibralter 445
Norway 417
Austria 396
St. Barth 304
Germany 297
Belgium 293
Iran 258 (death rate 7.8%)
Estonia 246
France 245 (death rate 4.2%)
Netherlands 245 (death rate 4.3%)
Denmark 241
Malta 204
Brunei 201
Montserrat 200
Slovenia 199
Bahrain 196
Sweden 191
Channel Islands 184
Ireland 183
S. Korea 174
Qatar 171
Guam 160
Portugul 157
Guadeloupe 140
Saint Martin 129
Israel 124
Finland 113
Czechia 105
Martinique 99
US 98

On a state by state basis, here are the states with the highest reported cases, but sorted based on cases per 1m population, to be comparable to the above:
NY: 15777 cases => 811
WA: 1793 cases => 235
NJ: 1914 cases => 215
LA: 837 cases => 179
MI: 1037 cases => 104
IL: 1049 cases => 83
CO: 476 cases => 83
MA: 529 cases => 76
MS: 207 cases => 70
WI: 381 cases => 65
CT: 223 cases => 63
NV: 190 cases => 62
GA: 600 cases => 57
TN: 376 cases => 55
CA: 1585 cases => 40
MD: 244 cases => 40
FL: 830 cases => 39
PA: 481 cases => 38
OH: 352 cases => 30
IN: 201 cases => 30
NC: 300 cases => 29
VA: 221 cases => 26
TX: 618 cases => 21

Are we close to "herd immunity" anywhere? To achieve herd immunity, you need about 70% of the people to have been infected. The highest place so far in San Marino, with 0.5% of the people infected, so we are far, far away.

Overall the situation in the US is better that in most of Europe, however, New York State already has an infection rate high enough to fill all their hospitals. It is urgent to increase their number of beds immediately or they could start having a much higher death rate. Washington State and New Jersey are not far behind. Washington already has a high death rate, but only because many of their early cases were in a Senior center.

Ohio, by contrast, still has a low number of reported cases compared to population. Within a week or so we should have a much better idea of how accurate than number is.



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   Posted: 3/30/2020 1:29:02 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
According to an epidemiologist who was on the radio this morning,,he expects,worst case, the number of corona cases to double every 6 days, till the end of March,then drop off dramatically.

That includes clusters in areas like Westchester,NY.

In the US that comes out to:

March 10 687 cases (positive test result,symptoms or not)

March 16 1374 cases

March 20 2748 cases

March 26 5496 cases

Of the 687, 679 are classified as "mild condition".

That's not a lot of people.
If you figure a population of 300 million that's 0.000018 % of the population.


Got to imagine this epidemiologist feels rather foolish now as we approach 150,000 before April, and our death toll will be likely ending the month at about half of what the epidemiologist thought the total cases would be come late March. Now there's some level of evidence that this is not only affecting the elderly, but rather people across the population spectrum.
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   Posted: 3/30/2020 2:41:33 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
allen wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
Weird...fear mongering and panic because of a small threat disease during an election year. Where have I heard this before?



It’s a false flag, let’s ignore it. The cdc just sent out new test and they are beautiful just like the transcript. Who cares if it spreads? I am going to wear gas mask on the senate floor and be a true lackey, oops I got quarantined.


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I just think it's funny that it's taking a widespread infectious virus to remind people to wash their freaking hands and not lick handrails on a stairwell.


If you truly believe this virus is spread by licking handrails or physically touching someone, well then I have no clue what to te you.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/31/2020 5:10:11 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:

What seems to be in question, is exactly how severe the threat is.


Question answered... unfortunately.

You have mentioned your wife is a nurse. Here's hoping she continues to have the protective gear she needs as she treats the growing numbers in NJ. While you mentioned the virus was not an issue (earlier) at her hospital, I fear it is now.

God Bless her and all those on the front line. True heroes.

Last Edited: 3/31/2020 5:10:54 PM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/31/2020 10:53:36 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:

What seems to be in question, is exactly how severe the threat is.


Question answered... unfortunately.

You have mentioned your wife is a nurse. Here's hoping she continues to have the protective gear she needs as she treats the growing numbers in NJ. While you mentioned the virus was not an issue (earlier) at her hospital, I fear it is now.

God Bless her and all those on the front line. True heroes.



Amen, God bless our healthcare professionals.


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