If that's true, and I have no doubt it is, that's just sad.

Don't kid yourself - many back in your/our day couldn't as well (Adams throws most off).

When I was in Grammar School, us dinosaurs had to memorize all the Presidents.

I'm sure OCF had to also.
Of course,when he was in Grammar School,in the 1 room school house,there were only 7 or so. :-)

I would say as a percentage of the population in their day of 18 - 22 year olds, this group would be at or near the bottom of that list. One reason, at least in Ohio, very little time is spent on social studies through third grade. In fact, social studies isn't even one of the state performance index indicators until high school. Sad.

Thank you Alan - the truth always comes out.

I was talking to a woman who teaches high school U.S. History from the French and Indian War through WWI.

She said they barely mention either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution anymore.

I don't think "random post from Facebook" should be considered a source of Truth.

Literally nobody else has reported that she was carrying a gun. This doesn't pass the smell test, honestly. Hundreds of videos, hundreds of publications. Just this lady who mentions a gun.

I'm sorry - I read it as Alan's wife's acquaintance as the one who observed - perhaps I'm wrong.

I'm very interested to see the high school history curriculum that includes the French Indian War but "barely mentions the Declaration of Independence or Constitution".

I think your reading is right, but that's my point. Why should we trust what Alan's wife's acquaintance posted on Facebook over the videos and media coverage provided?

This was an eyewitness account offered by the father of a visiting perspective student. He was there from the get go. The "press" was not.

Ideally, the best course of action would have been to just ignore the woman and provide her with as little attention as possible. Anyone familiar with her knows she does this to invoke a reaction so she can spend the next few weeks saying, "See! This is how intolerant and ignorant the left is these days!" She's doing this for the clicks and the page views and she got exactly the reaction she wanted.

I also think the students who showed up to protest her presence on campus were completely in their rights to do so. That said, I do wish that people would have refrained from throwing water/TP at her though. Even though it's pretty harmless, it can be construed as an assault... and that's what all these online posters are calling it now. But out of the 400 people or so that showed up, only a few resorted to throwing things at her. And yet since a couple bad apples threw stuff in a crowd of 400 people at a university of 25,000 students, somehow this is now representative of the university as a whole??

Reading some of the comments on the OUPD facebook post or the university page is kind of ridiculous. They are being bombarded by people all across the country. There are people on there calling OU students terrorists... Seriously? Terrorists? Because a couple people threw some water at her direction or threw a couple rolls of TP at her? Lots of people are overreacting to this.

The "press" also has to verify information they publish from sources, where as the father of a visiting perspective student does not.

Don't you find it odd that with literally hundreds of cameras and video from a dozen different angles, nobody has any footage of this person with a gun? But your wife's friend's husband witnessed that?

All I'm suggesting is that we use the appropriate amount of skepticism when it comes to second/third hand accounts involving social media.

A longtime acquaintance of my wife's posted this today. This is a first hand account by a parent who was accompanying his child on a college visit. I have copied and pasted it as posted except I've changed the names of the three individuals identified because to are minors. This account paints a very different story than has been reported by various media outlets.

"For those wondering about Ohio university’s recent appearance in the national news thanks to the gun girl visit, here is a first hand account.

Sam Jones wrote this about his personal account of this event yesterday...

'Her story.... is an absolute lie. We were there. I almost posted about it yesterday but didn’t want this sideshow to distract from my daughter’s visit. However seeing it on the news.... I want to set the record straight.

Jane, Sue and I were standing outside trying to decide which way we were supposed to go when this “woman” showed up. She got out of her car with her security guards and a camera person and walked towards the entrance of Baker Hall, where we were. She put a microphone in Jane's face and tried to ask her “Why gay people had special rights.” Jane knew who she was... I didn’t.... and ignored her. (She didn’t want to go viral!) I then watched her walk over to an African American student who was sitting on a bench and she asked him, “Do you ever thank white people for the fact that you aren’t a slave?” The boy just started at her in shock and then went inside. She then walked over to a group of kids that appeared to be LGBT students and asked them, “why they thought queers should have special rights?” She continued these type of questions to more students until a crowd started to gather in defense of what she was doing. They were truly sticking up for their fellow students who were just going about their day until this pig showed up to bother them!

It was only AFTER provoking everyone by picking on minority and LGBT looking students that she pulled out the assault weapon and walked around campus with a crowd of students following her.... obviously angry. She then goes to twitter and posts “This is what happens when a Trump support go to college.”

It had NOTHING to do with her support of Trump and NOTHING to do with gun rights! Nothing. I support gun rights! She wasn’t there to promote the 2nd Amendment or ask students presidential trivia! (Her story) She just said hateful and nasty things to get everyone riled up and then walked around for a couple hours until the crowd was big enough for her “story.”
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(And yes, in case you’re wondering, Jane and Sue practically tackled me to prevent me from going over to confront her after I heard what she said to the boy sitting on the bench!)'"

So I heard back from the father. Bad info and thanks to Shame for asking for proof. That doesn't happen too much anymore. Quote in response to my direct question about the gun - "No I did not. When we saw the crowd following her someone said she was carrying one around and that that was her thing. My pointwas that she didn't have one before alll lthe ruckus and that people weren't upset about a gun or her gun rights. They were upset at the things she was saying. I'm sorry if it came across wrong. The post was shared too many times before I could clafify that part."

The good part, his daughter has chosen to attend OU.

She then walked over to a group of kids that appeared to be LGBT students and asked them, “why they thought queers should have special rights?”

Wow. This is really offensive.

Any insight into how she identified LGBT(Q+) students?

Washington, Jefferson, and Roosevelt. It's right there on Mount Rushmore.

Close but it's actually Lincoln (penny), Jefferson (nickel) and Roosevelt (dime) which make Washington the fourth president (quarter).

So, Kennedy fifth?