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Posted: 12/11/2025 10:53 AM
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Kudos to Michigan. Total transparency. Action immediate.

Shame on Ohio. Total boondoggle of the situation with Smith. A coverup. Nobody needs specifics. What should be DEMANDED from players. recruits, staff & fans is an outline of the situation. Is it health, marriage, NCAA violations, inappropriate affair etc --- something. Not speculation that keeps dragging on.
Shame on OU!
Not so fast. Turns out they knew about is since mid-Fall and were sitting on it to see if they beat OSU and went to the playoffs. Also, continued to sit on it until after signing day and "reportedly" only went public when the girls' parents threatened to go nuclear on them.
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Posted: 12/11/2025 11:02 AM
Alaska Cat wrote:expand_more
Kudos to Michigan. Total transparency. Action immediate.

Shame on Ohio. Total boondoggle of the situation with Smith. A coverup. Nobody needs specifics. What should be DEMANDED from players. recruits, staff & fans is an outline of the situation. Is it health, marriage, NCAA violations, inappropriate affair etc --- something. Not speculation that keeps dragging on.
Shame on OU!
Yeah, looks like just the opposite, they purposefully sat on it to benefit them.
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Posted: 12/11/2025 2:17 PM
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Yeah, looks like just the opposite, they purposefully sat on it to benefit them.
They ran an almost certainly half-assed investigation this summer designed to sweep it under the rug.

All that changed is that yesterday the woman laid out details. And most likely, Moore did something in the interim that made her change her story from the prior investigation.
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Posted: 12/11/2025 3:15 PM
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Yeah, looks like just the opposite, they purposefully sat on it to benefit them.
They ran an almost certainly half-assed investigation this summer designed to sweep it under the rug.

All that changed is that yesterday the woman laid out details. And most likely, Moore did something in the interim that made her change her story from the prior investigation.
Where can one find the details that were laid out? Still searching.
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Posted: 12/11/2025 3:21 PM
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Yeah, looks like just the opposite, they purposefully sat on it to benefit them.
They ran an almost certainly half-assed investigation this summer designed to sweep it under the rug.

All that changed is that yesterday the woman laid out details. And most likely, Moore did something in the interim that made her change her story from the prior investigation.
Where can one find the details that were laid out? Still searching.
https://nypost.com/2025/12/11/sports/fired-michigan-coach... /
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Posted: 12/12/2025 9:02 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Yeah, looks like just the opposite, they purposefully sat on it to benefit them.
They ran an almost certainly half-assed investigation this summer designed to sweep it under the rug.

All that changed is that yesterday the woman laid out details. And most likely, Moore did something in the interim that made her change her story from the prior investigation.

The AD (now former) admitted they delayed action on this until after signing day. Call it what you want, they knew it was going on. We have a few OHIO connections there inside those walls. They knew it was going down.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 9:23 AM
Wish I didn't read all the details on his arraignment this morning.

The details are just sad. Getting caught up with your subordinate is one thing, getting fired over it, threatening suicide and then going to their house and attacking that person is just a full scale mental break.

Hard to feel bad for someone who gets themselves into that position in the first place, but man oh man my stomach hurts for the fallout. Literally may have ruined his entire life over this. Truly hope not and he gets some help. I've never rooted for Michigan in my entire life. I've never spent a single minute thinking about Moore. Now we know so much about his personal life and this absolute spiral that may cost a 39 year old man his family and life as he knew it.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 9:45 AM
Michigan’s interim president issued the most bizarre statement, basically asking anyone and everyone on campus for help…while at the same time self-praising their “swift” action.

Clowns.

https://president.umich.edu/news-communications/messages-... /
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Posted: 12/12/2025 9:53 AM
I'm old enough to remember Wednesday when a couple of folks here thought Michigan was somehow an example of how to handle this that OU should aspire to.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 10:26 AM
Mike Coleman wrote:expand_more
Michigan’s interim president issued the most bizarre statement, basically asking anyone and everyone on campus for help…while at the same time self-praising their “swift” action.

Clowns.

https://president.umich.edu/news-communications/messages-... /
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Posted: 12/12/2025 10:31 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Michigan’s interim president issued the most bizarre statement, basically asking anyone and everyone on campus for help…while at the same time self-praising their “swift” action.

Clowns.

https://president.umich.edu/news-communications/messages-... /
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My youngest daughter got her undergraduate degree from UMich, and after her sophomore year she stopped going to football games. She said Michigan football was a cult, and the cult mentality was getting scary to her. Never thought I'd say this, but I think it's even a bigger cult than the one 70 miles up the road in Cowtown.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 10:40 AM
I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 10:47 AM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
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Posted: 12/12/2025 4:47 PM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Sparty also lives up there so its somewhat of a house divided. Ohio has Cincy but all of their "fans" are mainly bucknuts
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Posted: 12/12/2025 5:20 PM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Ohio State isn't so much as a cult as it is the largest professional sports team in Ohio that everyone loves, at least in my opinion. Michigan is a different kind of weird.

My family all grew up as Michigan fans - my dad's best friend played football there in the 70s, peak Bo Schembechler - so I've been around it forever. They have a higher than thou aura to them and act as if they are untouchable even in the overwhelming face of them being completely shitty (late in Lloyd Carr's tenure up until they hired Jim Harbaugh was always a fun time with the fam). They always cried foul at the SEC for cheating and then turned around and did it themselves to win a national championship, but acted like they did nothing wrong. They're brainwashed into thinking they're better than everybody at anything.

They love to talk about the history of Michigan and being a Michigan Man. Watch, they'll mess up this hire somehow instead of getting the right guy, they'll get someone who ticks the Michigan Man boxes. Because the last time they swung for the fences outside of their little bubble (RichRod) it failed miserably.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 5:23 PM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Sparty also lives up there so its somewhat of a house divided. Ohio has Cincy but all of their "fans" are mainly bucknuts
In the ten years that I lived in Cincinnati, I actually didn't meet many Ohio State fans. Cincy is a weird melting pot because there are so many schools within driving distance. Once UC started getting bigger you could feel the shift more towards them and away from OSU, and literally right across the river is UK country. A little IU sprinkled in during bball season, even with UC/X right down the road.
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Posted: 12/12/2025 5:25 PM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Sparty also lives up there so its somewhat of a house divided. Ohio has Cincy but all of their "fans" are mainly bucknuts
In the ten years that I lived in Cincinnati, I actually didn't meet many Ohio State fans. Cincy is a weird melting pot because there are so many schools within driving distance. Once UC started getting bigger you could feel the shift more towards them and away from OSU, and literally right across the river is UK country. A little IU sprinkled in during bball season, even with UC/X right down the road.
And those are just the college teams. When you lived in Cincinnati, were the Bengals/Reds consistently relevant?
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Posted: 12/12/2025 5:40 PM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Sparty also lives up there so its somewhat of a house divided. Ohio has Cincy but all of their "fans" are mainly bucknuts
In the ten years that I lived in Cincinnati, I actually didn't meet many Ohio State fans. Cincy is a weird melting pot because there are so many schools within driving distance. Once UC started getting bigger you could feel the shift more towards them and away from OSU, and literally right across the river is UK country. A little IU sprinkled in during bball season, even with UC/X right down the road.
And those are just the college teams. When you lived in Cincinnati, were the Bengals/Reds consistently relevant?
Bengals for the most part yes, Reds not really. For the Bengals it was during the peak Marvin Lewis/Andy Dalton years so they were always in contention but not consistently great. The Reds kinda dropped off right before I left, but I'll never forget them blowing through the NL Central in 2012 and going up 2-0 on the road against the Giants in the NLDS and then farting away the next three at home in Cincinnati. Giants went on to win the World Series that year and the Reds never fully recovered.
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Posted: 12/13/2025 10:34 AM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
Within the state's general population, I'd say no. Within the university administration, I'd definitely say it's worse than Columbus. OSU has recently forced out two Hall of Fame coaches who embarrassed it. That's a pretty big contrast to how Michigan handled Harbaugh, Moore and you can throw Juwan Howard in too. I think they had some serious scandals with the hockey coach also and fought doing anything about it until the last minute.
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Posted: 12/13/2025 10:38 AM
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I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Ohio State isn't so much as a cult as it is the largest professional sports team in Ohio that everyone loves, at least in my opinion. Michigan is a different kind of weird.

My family all grew up as Michigan fans - my dad's best friend played football there in the 70s, peak Bo Schembechler - so I've been around it forever. They have a higher than thou aura to them and act as if they are untouchable even in the overwhelming face of them being completely shitty (late in Lloyd Carr's tenure up until they hired Jim Harbaugh was always a fun time with the fam). They always cried foul at the SEC for cheating and then turned around and did it themselves to win a national championship, but acted like they did nothing wrong. They're brainwashed into thinking they're better than everybody at anything.

They love to talk about the history of Michigan and being a Michigan Man. Watch, they'll mess up this hire somehow instead of getting the right guy, they'll get someone who ticks the Michigan Man boxes. Because the last time they swung for the fences outside of their little bubble (RichRod) it failed miserably.
Sums it up pretty well. OSU loathes being called a football factory which is why they turned Tressel into the ncaa and then whacked him. Then a few years later, shoved Meyer out the door. Michigan is so obsessed with their holier than thou self-image that they just can't conceive of being the bad guys and doing wrong things and could never, ever remotely be a football factory. It just doesn't compute in their institutional dna.
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Posted: 12/13/2025 5:53 PM
OUPride wrote:expand_more
I doubt very much it's a bigger cult than in Columbus.
It is hard to believe, isn't it?
Ohio State isn't so much as a cult as it is the largest professional sports team in Ohio that everyone loves, at least in my opinion. Michigan is a different kind of weird.

My family all grew up as Michigan fans - my dad's best friend played football there in the 70s, peak Bo Schembechler - so I've been around it forever. They have a higher than thou aura to them and act as if they are untouchable even in the overwhelming face of them being completely shitty (late in Lloyd Carr's tenure up until they hired Jim Harbaugh was always a fun time with the fam). They always cried foul at the SEC for cheating and then turned around and did it themselves to win a national championship, but acted like they did nothing wrong. They're brainwashed into thinking they're better than everybody at anything.

They love to talk about the history of Michigan and being a Michigan Man. Watch, they'll mess up this hire somehow instead of getting the right guy, they'll get someone who ticks the Michigan Man boxes. Because the last time they swung for the fences outside of their little bubble (RichRod) it failed miserably.
Sums it up pretty well. OSU loathes being called a football factory which is why they turned Tressel into the ncaa and then whacked him. Then a few years later, shoved Meyer out the door. Michigan is so obsessed with their holier than thou self-image that they just can't conceive of being the bad guys and doing wrong things and could never, ever remotely be a football factory. It just doesn't compute in their institutional dna.
So because OSU showed accountability and held their coaches to account, it’s a bad thing? And in the same post you claim they hate being known as a football factory? Make up your mind here! And guess what they moved on from Tressel and had even more success. They moved on from Meyer and have found even greater success. Fact is, since Michigan hired Harbaugh, they have had 11 coaches either arrested for criminal offenses or banned by the NCAA. And yet, they claim it’s all a witch hunt.
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