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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:00 PM
New York Times, December 29, 2019 issue. I don't know how to post the link on here. Very interesting article about one college which added football and another college that dropped football. Both schools have prospered since.
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Posted: 1/1/2020 11:37 PM
It’s interesting. Northeastern was FCS and infamously won at Ohio in their final season. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/sports/dropping-footba...
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Posted: 1/4/2020 12:40 PM
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It’s interesting. Northeastern was FCS and infamously won at Ohio in their final season. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/sports/dropping-footba...
It wasn't just a loss for Ohio. It was a flat-out embarrassment: 31-0. That was in 2002, seven years before they dropped the program.

As for the article, it's largely a matter of having a small school in a major city that's dominated by pro sports and few more prominent universities vs a small school basically in the boonies. And Anna Maria is in D3 so it's not saddled with scholarships. Northeastern was 1AA and was burdened with scholarships while facing dwindling attendance at games. Just dropping the program helped the bottom line. They attract students by focusing on what they're good at academically.
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Posted: 1/4/2020 1:10 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
It’s interesting. Northeastern was FCS and infamously won at Ohio in their final season. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/sports/dropping-footba...
It wasn't just a loss for Ohio. It was a flat-out embarrassment: 31-0. That was in 2002, seven years before they dropped the program.

As for the article, it's largely a matter of having a small school in a major city that's dominated by pro sports and few more prominent universities vs a small school basically in the boonies. And Anna Maria is in D3 so it's not saddled with scholarships. Northeastern was 1AA and was burdened with scholarships while facing dwindling attendance at games. Just dropping the program helped the bottom line. They attract students by focusing on what they're good at academically.
It also helped Anna Maria quietly move away from its "female school" reputation. It's a good article, but it is comparing apples to oranges as you point out.
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Posted: 1/4/2020 5:58 PM
Here's another article, this one from last month:
https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20191203/jacksonville...

FCS school Jacksonville State, who played in the non-scholarship Pioneer league, made the decision to give up football entirely. FCS is rough - they don't get much revenue, and they have many of the same expenses. Even without having the expenses of scholarships, Jacksonville State found it to be too expensive. It's no wonder that so many FCS schools try to escape up to FBS, where they get a lot more revenue (bowl money, conference money, higher attendance, bigger paychecks from "money games"), as well as the benefit of visibility.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 7:47 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
Here's another article, this one from last month:
https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20191203/jacksonville...

FCS school Jacksonville State, who played in the non-scholarship Pioneer league, made the decision to give up football entirely. FCS is rough - they don't get much revenue, and they have many of the same expenses. Even without having the expenses of scholarships, Jacksonville State found it to be too expensive. It's no wonder that so many FCS schools try to escape up to FBS, where they get a lot more revenue (bowl money, conference money, higher attendance, bigger paychecks from "money games"), as well as the benefit of visibility.
Was Jacksonville in the same non-scholarship Pioneer league as VALPO? Asking for a friend.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 12:09 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Here's another article, this one from last month:
https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20191203/jacksonville...

FCS school Jacksonville State, who played in the non-scholarship Pioneer league, made the decision to give up football entirely. FCS is rough - they don't get much revenue, and they have many of the same expenses. Even without having the expenses of scholarships, Jacksonville State found it to be too expensive. It's no wonder that so many FCS schools try to escape up to FBS, where they get a lot more revenue (bowl money, conference money, higher attendance, bigger paychecks from "money games"), as well as the benefit of visibility.
Was Jacksonville in the same non-scholarship Pioneer league as VALPO? Asking for a friend.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 12:57 AM
It was Jacksonville University, not Jacksonville State, who played in the Div I non scholarship Pioneer League with Valpo. They did drop their program. Jacksonville State, from Alabama, plays in the OVC.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 6:43 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
It was Jacksonville University, not Jacksonville State, who played in the Div I non scholarship Pioneer League with Valpo. They did drop their program. Jacksonville State, from Alabama, plays in the OVC.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 8:01 AM
Sorry, my error, I should have said Jacksonville University.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 7:16 PM
Didn't that loss spur Boeh into sending out the infamous "football letter" to alumni? Or maybe it was later that season?


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Posted: 1/7/2020 2:11 PM
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Didn't that loss spur Boeh into sending out the infamous "football letter" to alumni? Or maybe it was later that season?
I remember reading a letter in The Post along those lines.

Such a letter was a bit later in the season IIRC. Distinctly remember first seeing it while thumbing through in The Front Room in old Baker.
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