I stopped in to read about the Bobcats and I can't believe actually read through this thread. Isn't there like 4,023 other platforms to about this on? I recommend Twit-ter for one.

Alan brings up an interesting point; the truth. When Jesus uttered those famous words he was living in a system where the Pharisees had lost their popularity because of their hypocrisy. Jesus challenged them many times while only butting heads with the Sadducces once. They Pharisees didn't much like the Sadducees and they refused to be challenged by the likes of Jesus or anyone else. The Romans certainly weren't going to challenged and they had horrendously evil ways of dealing with those who did. The point being if you don't let others state their facts, you end up paying a price in the end. Joseph Stalin thought he had the upper hand on squelching faith in the USSR when he famously asked, how many divisions does the pope have? I am sure old Uncle Joe is even more miserable in hell than one might otherwise expect knowing the Russian Orthodox Patriarch has more power and influence in Russia than any bishop or cardinal does in any western country.

The problem with the those who refuse to accept anyone's opinion but the self appointed media's hand picked stars is that eventually some of their theories are going to be proven wrong. Dr. Fauci warned this might happen and has stated he may be wrong on occasion. He has on numerous occasions stating in February that the virus was nothing to be worried about, and then in early March saying lock downs wouldn't be necessary. Senator Rand Paul caused a stir in the Senate Health care hearing the other days when he not only took on the good doctor, but brought up the Swedish model which has been mocked by much of the health care elites.

Yet Stockholm's chief Epidemiologist says the city will be at herd immunity in about one month. This means if there is a second wave, they will be by and large protected, he said. He concluded that short of a vaccine this is the only way to root out the virus, keep the vulnerable protected and the healthy out and about in public. Again, a theory but not any less valuable than permanent lock downs. You can find plenty of credible people online who say wearing a mask in a cold meat packing plant is wise, but far less wise in the summer heat where the virus has a hard time surviving for more than a couple of minutes with direct contact. The long and short of it that for whatever reason, some in the media have picked their favorites and anyone who doesn't toe their line is uncaring, unsafe and unscientific, no matter the credentials they may possess.

The Corona Virus task force studies done at Fort Detrick (Maryland Research Facility.) Virus can last hours in a meat packing plant, only two minutes in summer sun. Pretty common knowledge stuff, which is why Germany is opening schools and youth sports.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200424-usa-coronavirus-covi...

Germany isn't opening schools and youth sports because sunlight acts as a disinfectant. That's a factor, but it's not why. The biggest factor is that they have rapid response testing available to every single student, every single day. Students take a swab test, the results are emailed to them, and if they fail they have to quarantine for 2 weeks.

Testing and masks have been the key component of countries who have been able to re-open faster than the US. It's truly baffling to me how poorly we've handled the testing component of this crisis. I've been looking daily for rapid response testing kits under the assumption that, inevitably, any company looking to re-open safely would need them, as has been the case in other countries. But they're not available and apparently we've decided to skip the whole "trace" part of this.

The Corona Virus task force studies done at Fort Detrick (Maryland Research Facility.) Virus can last hours in a meat packing plant, only two minutes in summer sun. Pretty common knowledge stuff, which is why Germany is opening schools and youth sports.
https://www.france24.com/en/20200424-usa-coronavirus-covi...

"Freedom and Guns"
"We need to get over this, well it's my rights attitude."

If in November you guys run on that sort of a platform (the two slogans mentioned above,) you won't win a single swing state and probably will have to settle for winning about 9 states, all centered on the West Coast and the coastal Northeast. Those two slogans might well win us Minnesota for the first time since 1972.

Why is this in football and not general discussion?

Because a couple people got angry and made it into politics and taking "sides"?

The right side, in this case, with regarding public health, is taking care of the majority of citizens -- not worrying about an election, or what one party or the other has to say.

I think I am going to keep checking this thread to see whose analysis of football I will disregard during the year. Keep posting!

I think I am going to keep checking this thread to see whose analysis of football I will disregard during the year. Keep posting!

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Testing and masks have been the key component of countries who have been able to re-open faster than the US. It's truly baffling to me how poorly we've handled the testing component of this crisis. I've been looking daily for rapid response testing kits under the assumption that, inevitably, any company looking to re-open safely would need them, as has been the case in other countries. But they're not available and apparently we've decided to skip the whole "trace" part of this.

There are quick tests now for active infections. One, by Abbott, was reviewed in the Wall Street Journal. It gives results in only 15 minutes, but has a very high false negative rate, 25-48%. That, by the way, is the one Trump uses to determine who he will meet.

Another Quick Result test for Covid19 swabs is made in Athens, by Quidel. I don't know how accurate it is, but they have a good reputation.

I'd like to make a motion to make a screen name change from "Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame" to "Siberian Train Conductor."

As I understand it, the false negative rate is largely about user error. In other words, they're not providing a sufficient 'sample.'

It's clear progress has been made in the biotech space creating the quick tests, but access to them is extremely limited. Re-opening would be a whole lot easier if they were so plentiful that we could test every child headed into school, every employee heading into work, etc. That sort of testing volume's just not there, and it's very unclear to me that anything's even being done to accomplish it at a federal level.