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Posted: 7/31/2020 10:53 AM
How come we haven't heard much about the MAC schedule (unless I'm missing it)? ACC, SEC, Big 10 all coming out. Once again, we look bush league. Of course, it's a money thing as we need those conference to be sustainable. But the MAC needs to get their voice out there. And, for that matter, so does the NCAA.

Please, NCAA, let this be the year that you say you're making changes (for a single year) to the bowl system. Hell, make it a bubble. 16 teams, four weeks. All conference winners get in, at large bids for the remainder, no other bowl games. Seems pretty straight-forward and the perfect year to give it a go.
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Posted: 8/1/2020 11:07 PM
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
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Posted: 8/3/2020 2:16 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
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Posted: 8/3/2020 5:00 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
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Posted: 8/3/2020 7:40 PM
The G5 schools aren't doing anything for legal purposes. If it looks like their hand was forced by the P5 schools, they can win that argument in court seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Would rather ensure they can still get paid for those games even though clearly they weren't going to make any attempt either to play the game
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Posted: 8/4/2020 12:45 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
The G5 schools aren't doing anything for legal purposes. If it looks like their hand was forced by the P5 schools, they can win that argument in court seven days a week and twice on Sunday. Would rather ensure they can still get paid for those games even though clearly they weren't going to make any attempt either to play the game
Ohio should try to get paid in crypto
I've seen crazier things happen.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 2:49 PM
Sun Belt has authorized its teams to play eight conference games and up to four OOC games.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 4:33 PM
Kevin Finnegan wrote:expand_more
How come we haven't heard much about the MAC schedule (unless I'm missing it)? ACC, SEC, Big 10 all coming out. Once again, we look bush league. Of course, it's a money thing as we need those conference to be sustainable. But the MAC needs to get their voice out there. And, for that matter, so does the NCAA.

Please, NCAA, let this be the year that you say you're making changes (for a single year) to the bowl system. Hell, make it a bubble. 16 teams, four weeks. All conference winners get in, at large bids for the remainder, no other bowl games. Seems pretty straight-forward and the perfect year to give it a go.
At this point we are playing, all our non-league contest are totally dependent upon the big boys and the little boys/other conferences. Not sure what you are looking for?
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Posted: 8/5/2020 8:56 AM
UConn cancels season.
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Posted: 8/5/2020 9:06 AM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Sun Belt has authorized its teams to play eight conference games and up to four OOC games.
The American Athletic Conference is expected to do the same today.
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Posted: 8/5/2020 9:09 AM
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UConn cancels season.
As a new independent, UConn was going to have a really hard time filling out its schedule if it had played.
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Posted: 8/5/2020 9:12 AM
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UConn cancels season.
Colorado State may be next. this behavior/approach by the staff may be more common than the NCAA wants to let on. And could prove devastating.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29599225...
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Posted: 8/5/2020 9:26 AM
and Idaho

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/04/idaho-football-play...

common theme: players concern for their health and distrust of administration and ncaa taking advantage of players with no power/leverage.
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Posted: 8/6/2020 2:07 PM
Kevin Finnegan wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
I suspect those contracts could be in "renegotiation" as we speak, but the money is still there or there wouldn't be a season. TV ratings will probably be up and advertisers might be forced to cough up more dough since fans can't be in the stands. I say that not just because the fans who would be in the stands will be watching but because there is just a high demand right now for live entertainment and college football will probably clean up TV-wise as long as it happens.
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Posted: 8/6/2020 2:13 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
I suspect those contracts could be in "renegotiation" as we speak, but the money is still there or there wouldn't be a season. TV ratings will probably be up and advertisers might be forced to cough up more dough since fans can't be in the stands. I say that not just because the fans who would be in the stands will be watching but because there is just a high demand right now for live entertainment and college football will probably clean up TV-wise as long as it happens.
Well if more schools are projecting like Wisconsin is projecting, their may not be as much money as we all think.

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/129102671478571...

There's a reason D2 and D3 Fall Championships just got cancelled. There just simply won't be enough money to pay for all this.

The NBA spent $75 million on their bubble in Orlando between all the testing, quarantining of players and facilities. I'm afraid that some of these Group of Five schools just simply won't be able to do it financially, including Ohio.
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Posted: 8/6/2020 2:16 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
I suspect those contracts could be in "renegotiation" as we speak, but the money is still there or there wouldn't be a season. TV ratings will probably be up and advertisers might be forced to cough up more dough since fans can't be in the stands. I say that not just because the fans who would be in the stands will be watching but because there is just a high demand right now for live entertainment and college football will probably clean up TV-wise as long as it happens.
Well if more schools are projecting like Wisconsin is projecting, their may not be as much money as we all think.

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/129102671478571...

There's a reason D2 and D3 Fall Championships just got cancelled. There just simply won't be enough money to pay for all this.

The NBA spent $75 million on their bubble in Orlando between all the testing, quarantining of players and facilities. I'm afraid that some of these Group of Five schools just simply won't be able to do it financially, including Ohio.
Michigan just sent an email out talking about no football=$120 million hit for them. These schools, although we think they make a TON of money, are non-profits. Therefore, they have to spend profits or give back to the general fund. Not like they got a warchest sitting around like Apple does.
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Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
I suspect those contracts could be in "renegotiation" as we speak, but the money is still there or there wouldn't be a season. TV ratings will probably be up and advertisers might be forced to cough up more dough since fans can't be in the stands. I say that not just because the fans who would be in the stands will be watching but because there is just a high demand right now for live entertainment and college football will probably clean up TV-wise as long as it happens.
Aren't the TV contracts negotiated well in advance though? Why would the networks be open to paying more for something they've already negotiated?
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Posted: 8/6/2020 4:32 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
All the G5 conferences are in limbo until the P12 and B12 make their final decisions regarding scheduling. Most of the "P"s are looking at 10-game schedules with all or nearly all being against conference opponents. Gs might try to fill in holes with other Gs but they might have to go conference-only as well.
The Big 12 is going to screw everything up in all of this since they only have 10 teams in the league. If they want to try and match a 10-game schedule like the SEC, Big Ten or PAC 12, they'll either need to make every team play another twice or go out of conference.

The MAC could easily go with a 10-game conference-only schedule and be done with it, but to me it looks like they're waiting for paychecks.
But, other than TV money, where are the big schools getting money to give pay games to MAC schools? If they don't have fans in the stands, they won't have money to pay out.
I suspect those contracts could be in "renegotiation" as we speak, but the money is still there or there wouldn't be a season. TV ratings will probably be up and advertisers might be forced to cough up more dough since fans can't be in the stands. I say that not just because the fans who would be in the stands will be watching but because there is just a high demand right now for live entertainment and college football will probably clean up TV-wise as long as it happens.
Aren't the TV contracts negotiated well in advance though? Why would the networks be open to paying more for something they've already negotiated?
I don't know. Just spitballing. Acts of God and such. Obviously d2 and d3 don't have tv contracts to fall back on. Do I feel bad that michigan or any bigtime school is going to lose a shit ton of money? Nope. not one bit. but I feel bad for the workers involved with gameday operations.
Last Edited: 8/6/2020 4:34:53 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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