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Posted: 7/8/2020 11:55 AM
I was listening to WOUB News on the radio this morning. They reported that multiple athletes had tested positive for Covid-19 (I believe they said 8) and had been sent home to quarantine. All conditioning/workout type activities involving student athletes were suspended for the present time. They did not specify which team or teams were involved but the football guys that I normally see in Peden working out in the early mornings were no where to be seen today. There was nothing that I could find on WOUB's website to confirm their report or to provide more information when I looked later this morning.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 12:01 PM
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I was listening to WOUB News on the radio this morning. They reported that multiple athletes had tested positive for Covid-19 (I believe they said 8) and had been sent home to quarantine. All conditioning/workout type activities involving student athletes were suspended for the present time. They did not specify which team or teams were involved but the football guys that I normally see in Peden working out in the early mornings were no where to be seen today. There was nothing that I could find on WOUB's website to confirm their report or to provide more information when I looked later this morning.
https://www.ohio.edu/news/2020/07/student-athletes-test-p...
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Posted: 7/8/2020 1:45 PM
So the tests were conducted in Athens, but before workouts began? This doesn't read that clearly to me.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 3:54 PM
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So the tests were conducted in Athens, but before workouts began? This doesn't read that clearly to me.
The verbiage is very confusing. Did they come to Athens, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, clear testing, start workouts then get it. Or did they come to town, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, and test positive. The official OU release states neither of those things.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 4:19 PM
Louisville hoops, Kansas St., Kansas football and West Virginia hoops are just a few of the schools that have halted summer workouts for the time being. I'm sure there are numerous others I didn't mention. In college towns all around America, young students are still going to gather in large groups.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 6:15 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
So the tests were conducted in Athens, but before workouts began? This doesn't read that clearly to me.
The verbiage is very confusing. Did they come to Athens, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, clear testing, start workouts then get it. Or did they come to town, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, and test positive. The official OU release states neither of those things.
The second sentence says that the screening that gave the positive result occurred before workouts started. So it seems that they were tested seven days after they came back to Athens and got a positive result before they could have their physicals and could begin workouts. Looks like they had the virus when they came to campus.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 6:57 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
So the tests were conducted in Athens, but before workouts began? This doesn't read that clearly to me.
The verbiage is very confusing. Did they come to Athens, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, clear testing, start workouts then get it. Or did they come to town, quarantine for 7 days, get tested, and test positive. The official OU release states neither of those things.
The second sentence says that the screening that gave the positive result occurred before workouts started. So it seems that they were tested seven days after they came back to Athens and got a positive result before they could have their physicals and could begin workouts. Looks like they had the virus when they came to campus.
The reality of testing is that there's simply no way to get reliable, timely testing unless you have access to your own lab. Does anybody know if O'Bleness has a lab that can test Covid samples?

Otherwise, there are two choices: use rapid tests, which are unreliable or rely on the traditional test which is then sent to a LabCorp lab. The wait time for results is now 5-7 days. The rapid tests, on the other hand, aren't accurate enough to be relied on. They're also very hard to get your hands on.

Given that, it leaves a lot of questions about timelines and the plan here. It's odd to have a seven day quarantine pre-date the test. Why not test and quarantine while results are pending? I'm not clear what that accomplishes, particularly if the test post-quarantine has to be sent to a lab for results.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 7:23 PM
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Given that, it leaves a lot of questions about timelines and the plan here. It's odd to have a seven day quarantine pre-date the test. Why not test and quarantine while results are pending? I'm not clear what that accomplishes, particularly if the test post-quarantine has to be sent to a lab for results.

It takes 2-14 days after exposure, with an average of 5, for symptoms to develop, and presumably, for your body to build up enough virus to show as positive. I would think that quarantining for 7 days, then testing, is going to show a positive for almost everyone who was exposed.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 8:48 PM
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Given that, it leaves a lot of questions about timelines and the plan here. It's odd to have a seven day quarantine pre-date the test. Why not test and quarantine while results are pending? I'm not clear what that accomplishes, particularly if the test post-quarantine has to be sent to a lab for results.

It takes 2-14 days after exposure, with an average of 5, for symptoms to develop, and presumably, for your body to build up enough virus to show as positive. I would think that quarantining for 7 days, then testing, is going to show a positive for almost everyone who was exposed.
Right, but if you have to wait 5-7 days for the results after the quarantine, what are folks doing in the meantime? More quarantine? Or going about their business?
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Posted: 7/8/2020 9:43 PM
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Given that, it leaves a lot of questions about timelines and the plan here. It's odd to have a seven day quarantine pre-date the test. Why not test and quarantine while results are pending? I'm not clear what that accomplishes, particularly if the test post-quarantine has to be sent to a lab for results.

It takes 2-14 days after exposure, with an average of 5, for symptoms to develop, and presumably, for your body to build up enough virus to show as positive. I would think that quarantining for 7 days, then testing, is going to show a positive for almost everyone who was exposed.
Right, but if you have to wait 5-7 days for the results after the quarantine, what are folks doing in the meantime? More quarantine? Or going about their business?

I would say more quarantine. In most places they quarantine 14 days anyway.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 9:54 PM
Ohio State and North Carolina both shut down workouts today for the foreseeable future do to positive tests.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
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Posted: 7/8/2020 10:34 PM
I think the key question here would also be did athletes actually self quarantine when they came to town, or where they hanging at some Mill Street house parties.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 7:25 AM
L.C. wrote:expand_more
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Given that, it leaves a lot of questions about timelines and the plan here. It's odd to have a seven day quarantine pre-date the test. Why not test and quarantine while results are pending? I'm not clear what that accomplishes, particularly if the test post-quarantine has to be sent to a lab for results.

It takes 2-14 days after exposure, with an average of 5, for symptoms to develop, and presumably, for your body to build up enough virus to show as positive. I would think that quarantining for 7 days, then testing, is going to show a positive for almost everyone who was exposed.
Right, but if you have to wait 5-7 days for the results after the quarantine, what are folks doing in the meantime? More quarantine? Or going about their business?

I would say more quarantine. In most places they quarantine 14 days anyway.
That would definitely make sense. It didn't seem clear from the article, though it's also possible that O'Blenness has a testing lab and can turn results around more quickly. I kind of doubt that though, and would also question the wisdom of using limited lab resources to test preventative tests for student athletes when there are such huge delays all over the country.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:01 AM
It may help that some Covid tests may be made in Athens. Quidel Corporation, which has research and manufacturing in Athens, makes a wide variety of rapid tests, including tests for both active infections (EUA approved March 17) and Covid antibodies (EUA approved May 8)
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:04 AM
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Ohio State and North Carolina both shut down workouts today for the foreseeable future do to positive tests.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.
Sad that tosu is hiding behind "privacy" issues in its failure to report numbers. Kuds to OU for being above board.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:28 AM
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It may help that some Covid tests may be made in Athens. Quidel Corporation, which has research and manufacturing in Athens, makes a wide variety of rapid tests, including tests for both active infections (EUA approved March 17) and Covid antibodies (EUA approved May 8)
I've spent a good part of the last three weeks trying to set up a return-to-work testing strategy for 250 employees in Virginia. I've spoken to enough lawyers to put a downpayment on a modest home, and folks from Labcorp, a half dozen urgent care clinics, Quest Diagnostics, and an occupational health consultant, and the consensus amongst them is that rapid tests just aren't reliable enough to use.

The number one quoted me -- and no idea how accurate it is -- is that rapid tests only identify 1 out of 5 active Covid cases. Basically, they can identify a 'high density' of the virus, so if folks are very sick, they work. Otherwise, they're very unreliable. The workflow our legal counsel suggested were we to implement rapid testing is to conduct the rapid test and to only trust positive results they return. For negative tests, we were instructed to have them sent to Labcorp for a second diagnosis that would take 5-7 days.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 9:38 AM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
It may help that some Covid tests may be made in Athens. Quidel Corporation, which has research and manufacturing in Athens, makes a wide variety of rapid tests, including tests for both active infections (EUA approved March 17) and Covid antibodies (EUA approved May 8)
I've spent a good part of the last three weeks trying to set up a return-to-work testing strategy for 250 employees in Virginia. I've spoken to enough lawyers to put a downpayment on a modest home, and folks from Labcorp, a half dozen urgent care clinics, Quest Diagnostics, and an occupational health consultant, and the consensus amongst them is that rapid tests just aren't reliable enough to use.

The number one quoted me -- and no idea how accurate it is -- is that rapid tests only identify 1 out of 5 active Covid cases. Basically, they can identify a 'high density' of the virus, so if folks are very sick, they work. Otherwise, they're very unreliable. The workflow our legal counsel suggested were we to implement rapid testing is to conduct the rapid test and to only trust positive results they return. For negative tests, we were instructed to have them sent to Labcorp for a second diagnosis that would take 5-7 days.
Pretty much the same opinion on the reliability of rapid (saliva) tests out here in N.J.

Since Rutgers developed the saliva test a lot of places are using it.

The news reports out here have been saying a positive test is usually reliable.

Not so for a negative result.

The one report I heard said less then 50% of the negative results are accurate.
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Posted: 7/9/2020 12:17 PM
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...The number one quoted me -- and no idea how accurate it is -- is that rapid tests only identify 1 out of 5 active Covid cases. Basically, they can identify a 'high density' of the virus, so if folks are very sick, they work. Otherwise, they're very unreliable. The workflow our legal counsel suggested were we to implement rapid testing is to conduct the rapid test and to only trust positive results they return. For negative tests, we were instructed to have them sent to Labcorp for a second diagnosis that would take 5-7 days.

I can't find any specific results for the Quidel test, just that it has a high degree of specificity, but lower sensitivity than PCR tests:
https://www.bioworld.com/articles/435020-fda-applies-eua-...
Thus, you can trust the positive results, but a negative result is less meaningful, and you might want a lab PCR test done as well, pretty much as you suggested.

Here's a different rapid test that does quote specifics:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fda-approved-veritor-corona...
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As it turns out, the Veritor machine with a coronavirus assay accurately detects the virus only 84 percent of the time, BD found after a trial involving 226 patients in 21 locations. Laboratory molecular tests, by contrast, are nearly 100-percent sensitive but can take days to complete.

I think your one in five accurate is reverse. It would appear that 4 in 5 are accurate, with one in five missed.
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Last Edited: 7/9/2020 12:17:47 PM by L.C.
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Posted: 7/17/2020 11:23 AM
I just realized that no one in this thread, myself included, said anything expressing concern for the health of the eight athletes who tested positive. That's how numbing the daily record-setting numbers have made the situation. I hope they are all okay. Without naming names, has anyone heard how any of those eight are fairing?
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Posted: 7/17/2020 11:58 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I just realized that no one in this thread, myself included, said anything expressing concern for the health of the eight athletes who tested positive. That's how numbing the daily record-setting numbers have made the situation. I hope they are all okay. Without naming names, has anyone heard how any of those eight are fairing?
Sad (and I’m guilty too)

I assumed they were Asymptomatic or had mild cases. I hope all these athletes and their families are well
I've seen crazier things happen.
Last Edited: 7/17/2020 11:59:22 AM by The Optimist
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