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Posted: 9/30/2023 10:39 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: October 7th, 2023 3:30 PM

Opponent: Kent St.  (1-4, 0-1 MAC)

Site: Peden Stadium

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Posted: 10/1/2023 2:24 PM
We have points in the Coaches Poll this week but not last week. Does Albin have more respect for BG after they knocked off GaTech and plugged us in at #24 this week?

If Kurtis stays healthy this should be a lot like last week's game vs BG. Kent's offense is awful but they have a decent defense. They're 11th in the MAC in total offense, 7th in total D. Yesterday they held MOFO to 282 total yds, more than 100 less than MOFO's season average (which is skewed a bit by their blowout of Delaware St). If we keep their offense off the field we can wear down their D and easily score 30 on offense.

Getting after their QB will be big. Alaimo was sacked seven times yesterday and they've given up 17 on the season, 11th in the MAC.
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Posted: 10/1/2023 2:26 PM
We open at -24.5 according to ESPN/Caesars,

ESPN gives us a 88.2% of winning.
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Posted: 10/1/2023 2:43 PM
Trevor Stephens wrote:expand_more
We open at -24.5 according to ESPN/Caesars,

ESPN gives us a 88.2% of winning.
I was pretty close. I thought shortly after I guessed 26 that it was probably, if anything, a point or two high.

Computers start to converge after about 7 games but they still have a very differing opinion on Ohio. Vegas seems to be on the high end and I agree. 24.5 points with what should be a lower end over/under implies a 97 or 98 percent chance of winning. FPI isn't a fan of the Bobcats but early in the year trust Vegas over a computer
Computers need data.
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Posted: 10/1/2023 3:46 PM
This is a bit out of right field, it's an unconventional weekend, however do any attack.com members ever gather before the games? I would bring a dish. I am older, so it would be easier than setting up. I remember there was a gentleman a few years back that made burgers and fresh French fries. I had to make him accept my $5 handshake. Thanks. Bleed Green!
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Posted: 10/1/2023 3:52 PM
( I am a member of the Bobcat club) but I would prefer to "shoot the crap" with us that do it on this site. 😄
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Posted: 10/1/2023 5:19 PM
We have already been bet up to -26.
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Posted: 10/1/2023 7:28 PM
Just how bad is Kent?





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Posted: 10/1/2023 7:50 PM
I am glad you guys are more interested in the "spread" I play too. There are more dimensions to this Homecoming game. (Not+/-3 or 5 points).Jeff, I dig how you said , simply, "win @BG" I agree. I hope the weather holds up this weekend and those who are contemplating coming back to Athens do.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 9:33 AM
randy wrote:expand_more
I am glad you guys are more interested in the "spread" I play too. There are more dimensions to this Homecoming game. (Not+/-3 or 5 points).Jeff, I dig how you said , simply, "win @BG" I agree. I hope the weather holds up this weekend and those who are contemplating coming back to Athens do.
I don't play. As someone who has followed college football for over 40 years and has their own computer system the line is still the best assessment of where teams are. There is a lot of money riding on being right. You can take Ohio at -5000. We are Vegas's lock of the Week in college football right now.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 11:46 AM
I think this a very generous spread. We simply haven't proven enough offensively to justify this. Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year. Kent only gave up 23 to Miami last week and miami's offense is showing way better so far.
That's more relevant than whatever happened vs fresno. Might we win by 26 or more? Sure. But we haven't earned this spread to this point.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:13 PM
I wouldn't touch that spread.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:50 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:12 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
I haven't seen the O line be as dominant as in the past. The push hasn't been there and the holes haven't been there. Also, the backs could be a little slower from their injuries.

More imagination in the running game is needed, too. Putting people in motion and more misdirection plays would help. We've been pretty much a stand around, run UTM team so far. Defenses know what's coming.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:41 PM
BOLD PREDICTION: We will beat the spread by halftime and rest a lot of starters in the second half. This is probably the best (meaning worst) Homecoming opponent I can ever remember.
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Last Edited: 10/2/2023 3:33:55 PM by OhioCatFan
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:56 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
I haven't seen the O line be as dominant as in the past. The push hasn't been there and the holes haven't been there. Also, the backs could be a little slower from their injuries.

More imagination in the running game is needed, too. Putting people in motion and more misdirection plays would help. We've been pretty much a stand around, run UTM team so far. Defenses know what's coming.
What he said.

To add some numbers to this, here are some that support my assertion:

Sdsu 3.6 ypc, long 14
Liu, 4.4 ypc, long 23 (Harris)
Fau 3.4 ypc, long 10 (Rourke)
Isu 3 ypc, long 12 (Rourke)
Bg 3.4 ypc long 16 (rourke)

We have 2 runs this season of 20+ yards (2!) one of those is by a qb (Harris) and both came against Liu. In four of our games the longest run from scrimmage was by a qb. We have only averaged 4 ypc carry once, against Liu.

Are we somewhat productive on the ground? Sure. Are we explosive? No. Not by any objective measure.
Last Edited: 10/2/2023 2:42:39 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:05 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
With Kurtis being partly limited during the summer, getting a concussion, receivers missing time, and the defense playing so well, we have been very conservative on offense. We run the ball a lot. The other team's DC has known we are going to run the ball a lot.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 5:53 PM
Victory wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
With Kurtis being partly limited during the summer, getting a concussion, receivers missing time, and the defense playing so well, we have been very conservative on offense. We run the ball a lot. The other team's DC has known we are going to run the ball a lot.
And we lost arguably our best 2 deep threats from last year with Bostic graduating and Jones hardly playing this year.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 6:00 PM

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Posted: 10/2/2023 7:08 PM
Pataskala wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
I haven't seen the O line be as dominant as in the past. The push hasn't been there and the holes haven't been there. Also, the backs could be a little slower from their injuries.

More imagination in the running game is needed, too. Putting people in motion and more misdirection plays would help. We've been pretty much a stand around, run UTM team so far. Defenses know what's coming.
People have gotten *very* mad at me on here for daring to suggest Albin is playing scared, playing to not lose. Running out the clock rather than running up the score.

Last year we were taking chances and lighting up the scoreboard, like we knew the D couldn't stop anyone. This year the defense is tough, and the offensive play calls look happy just to keep the clock moving. We run 15+ HB dives per game. How many passes over 20 yards this entire season do we have? 5? We're not even attempting the deep ball anymore. Why?
Last Edited: 10/2/2023 7:11:58 PM by M.D.W.S.T
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Posted: 10/2/2023 8:22 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Our running game lacks any explosiveness, and our top deep threat receiver is out for the year.
Any explanation(s) for this? I think we have 2 quality RB in Allison and Bangura.
I haven't seen the O line be as dominant as in the past. The push hasn't been there and the holes haven't been there. Also, the backs could be a little slower from their injuries.

More imagination in the running game is needed, too. Putting people in motion and more misdirection plays would help. We've been pretty much a stand around, run UTM team so far. Defenses know what's coming.
People have gotten *very* mad at me on here for daring to suggest Albin is playing scared, playing to not lose. Running out the clock rather than running up the score.

Last year we were taking chances and lighting up the scoreboard, like we knew the D couldn't stop anyone. This year the defense is tough, and the offensive play calls look happy just to keep the clock moving. We run 15+ HB dives per game. How many passes over 20 yards this entire season do we have? 5? We're not even attempting the deep ball anymore. Why?
Part of the problem is that Jacoby Jones has been out most of the year, so Wigs gets double or triple teamed most of the time. It'll be that way until some of the other receivers show they can be a consistent deep threat.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 9:44 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I wouldn't touch that spread.
Same. The bet to consider is the over/under. I don't believe we have played in a game yet where the over won. Whatever that could be worth to you.

But don't take my wagering advice. I lost 4 of 5 this past Saturday on varrying sports. Granted, one of those losses made me happy. 😉
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Posted: 10/2/2023 10:11 PM
Is there a surplus sale this year?
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Posted: 10/2/2023 10:17 PM
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We run 15+ HB dives per game. . . .
UTM can be a beautiful play when you consistently make 4+ yards per carry. Yes, I'm channeling my inner Hayes/Hess, though the latter would open up the offense once the team got to the 50-yard line. I predict we'll see plenty more UTM plays against the Golden Flushes, spiced with some 20+ yard passes. And, those UTM plays will be highly productive. This will be a coming out party for our offense. Go OHIO!
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:06 AM
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We run 15+ HB dives per game. . . .
UTM can be a beautiful play when you consistently make 4+ yards per carry. Yes, I'm channeling my inner Hayes/Hess, though the latter would open up the offense once the team got to the 50-yard line. I predict we'll see plenty more UTM plays against the Golden Flushes, spiced with some 20+ yard passes. And, those UTM plays will be highly productive. This will be a coming out party for our offense. Go OHIO!
There are probably other MAC teams that have much worse defenses, but I hope you’re right
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