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Posted: 11/2/2011 9:42 AM

Interesting article in this morning's Wheeling Intelligencer Newspaper on what WVU will get in annual payout from the B-XII. Apparently WVU will only receive 50% of that payout in the 2012-13 year, 67% in the 2013-14 year, 84% in the 2014-15 year and 100% thereafter. The payout from the league is $17,000,000.00 PER TEAM PER YEAR. As Oliver Luck stated, even at 50% that is more than what the Big East is paying. Would someone please enlighten me as to what OUr beloved conference gives each school per year?

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Posted: 11/2/2011 12:09 PM

Not sure probably about 1 million to all MAC member schools. Not sure what is included in that 17 million listed for the Big XII. That might just be TV revenue and exclude bowls and NCAAs. That is why you aren't going to see Ohio move down to FCS because the school is just on the outside of a massive payday. That is why schools are moving up from FCS to FBS. To get on the money train.

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Posted: 11/2/2011 1:15 PM

After rereading the article I believe it is only for TV revenue and does not include anything else. To quote Oliver Luck, the A.D. at WVU:

"Clearly the television payout is much bigger than it is in the Big East."

And again, the $17,000,000.00 is per team, not for the entire league!

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Posted: 11/2/2011 2:26 PM

The PAC-12 is now paying out 20 million per school in TV revenue. Utah joined the PAC-12 with a 30 million dollar football budget only slightly higher than Ohio and then with the TV money combined with other PAC-12 revenues they are can effectively double their budget. The Big XII is 17 mil, the Big East is projecting 10 mil with a new contract. Even 5 million per school would be a good rational for moving up into one of these conference and totally outweigh the thought of moving down.

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Posted: 11/3/2011 2:22 AM

So, we need to spend, a guess, 12-14 million to get Peden to 40,000. Then, fill it consistently. Then, conference up to where we get an extra 12-14 million extra a year from the TV/football revenues. The math probably works...save for how do we fill 40,000 in Peden consistently?

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Posted: 11/3/2011 10:38 AM

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40,000 is too big. I'm thinking 34,000 just to stand out a little beyond the other MAC schools. The Cats only had 17,500 for last night for Temple so based on that you could argue that 34,000 is too big when you factor in a couple of midweek games per year. I don't understand why the crowd was so low. Do we really have a significant portion of our attending fans living more than 2 hours away?

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Posted: 11/3/2011 11:24 AM

I actually think 17,500 (which seems like a legit count) is good for a Wednesday night. The 8 p.m. start and option of watching on TV makes it hard for someone in Columbus to climb in the car and head for Athens knowing they won't be home before 1 a.m. I think we lose a lot of the crowd that is anywhere outside of Athens for any weekday game. Figure just over 20,000 students in Athens and a similar number of citizens, and 17,500 is downright impressive. We should talk about expanding the stadium when we can't fit everyone in the current one. We've turned fans away from Peden exactly zero times since its most recent expansion.

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Posted: 11/3/2011 11:45 AM

The Athens metro including students is like 40,000. Your numbers make sense. Expansion should wait until the program can put 24,000 in the house for a November game. We can do it for a BCS school, band night or homecoming when the weather is good but we have to be able to draw in November.

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Posted: 11/3/2011 12:09 PM

We are in a small TV market and that alone is enough to keep us out of the BCS. WVU's market isn't great, but they have the whole state behind them.

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Posted: 11/3/2011 12:56 PM

Ohio is fairly statewide in reach. Branch campuses are commutable from about half the state. Columbus could be considered a market for Ohio as it has a campus in Pickerington that is getting a medical school. Ohio isn't ready yet for the Big XII yet but a decade of TCU or Boise State level performance and it could be there. Not saying Ohio will be there but its enough of a possibility to justify staying in FBS.

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Posted: 11/3/2011 7:51 PM

I'm not saying that we can fill 40,000 consistently. Or even once. It's just tough being in an area of low population and low income. But if we could get to 40k, the dollars seem to work for getting to a bigger conference.

Let's get the W's running like last night and see. If we build it...income and distance etc as barriers may suddenly melt.

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