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Posted: 3/3/2024 9:10 PM
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Not sure the details but according to Twitt----er, I mean X, he was resigned recently. ;)

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915,000 is pretty good
League minimum, I think.
1 Year player minimum is $870K
Found this on one site: "For the 2024-25 season, the rookie minimum salary will increase to $795,000, while the veteran minimum salary will increase to $915,000."

So, it looks like he's getting the minimum for a "veteran." Not sure exactly how he qualifies as veteran, but maybe because he was called up off the practice squad at the end of last season.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 5:00 PM
JimLurker34 wrote:expand_more
Not sure the details but according to Twitt----er, I mean X, he was resigned recently. ;)

Go Bobcats!
915,000 is pretty good
League minimum, I think.
1 Year player minimum is $870K
Found this on one site: "For the 2024-25 season, the rookie minimum salary will increase to $795,000, while the veteran minimum salary will increase to $915,000."

So, it looks like he's getting the minimum for a "veteran." Not sure exactly how he qualifies as veteran, but maybe because he was called up off the practice squad at the end of last season.
He’s not a veteran, it’s a negotiated contract that he signed. A player does not reach “veteran status” on the negotiated agreement until they have 4 years of accredited service. And that $915,000 would be the figure for a 4 year veteran, as that minimum slides up with each year of service credit. Nathan has some marketability and interest so not hard to not negotiate that level, especially when the only thing that would be guaranteed would be any signing bonus he got.
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Posted: 3/6/2024 1:10 PM
Contract puts him on team for offseason - needs to make the final roster to get the actual dollars (players do not get checks in offseason). Was probably given a small amount as signing bonus to keep him buying groceries. Will be interesting who else they sign and draft (will take QB in 1st round who will slot in above him on depth chart)
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Posted: 3/7/2024 4:21 PM
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Contract puts him on team for offseason - needs to make the final roster to get the actual dollars (players do not get checks in offseason). Was probably given a small amount as signing bonus to keep him buying groceries. Will be interesting who else they sign and draft (will take QB in 1st round who will slot in above him on depth chart)
Correct.

Has his work cut out for him.

Once they get Drake Maye in the building, he's gonna get all the reps, all the attention.

They could always trade McCorkle, but Rourke always seems to be one-step behind the depth chart shuffle.
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Posted: 3/7/2024 4:44 PM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
Contract puts him on team for offseason - needs to make the final roster to get the actual dollars (players do not get checks in offseason). Was probably given a small amount as signing bonus to keep him buying groceries. Will be interesting who else they sign and draft (will take QB in 1st round who will slot in above him on depth chart)
Correct.

Has his work cut out for him.

Once they get Drake Maye in the building, he's gonna get all the reps, all the attention.

They could always trade McCorkle, but Rourke always seems to be one-step behind the depth chart shuffle.
The problem for Rourke is there is no such thing as competition for playing time anymore. There are franchise QBs and QBs drafted to become franchise QBS, along with veteran backups to help (but not challenge) those two groups. Many teams don't keep a QB3 on the active roster. It seems like if you are not the anointed one on the team you need to bounce around until injuries give you an opportunity--or make you old enough to not be a threat to the franchise QB.
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Posted: 3/7/2024 4:55 PM
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Contract puts him on team for offseason - needs to make the final roster to get the actual dollars (players do not get checks in offseason). Was probably given a small amount as signing bonus to keep him buying groceries. Will be interesting who else they sign and draft (will take QB in 1st round who will slot in above him on depth chart)
Correct.

Has his work cut out for him.

Once they get Drake Maye in the building, he's gonna get all the reps, all the attention.

They could always trade McCorkle, but Rourke always seems to be one-step behind the depth chart shuffle.
The problem for Rourke is there is no such thing as competition for playing time anymore. There are franchise QBs and QBs drafted to become franchise QBS, along with veteran backups to help (but not challenge) those two groups. Many teams don't keep a QB3 on the active roster. It seems like if you are not the anointed one on the team you need to bounce around until injuries give you an opportunity--or make you old enough to not be a threat to the franchise QB.
True, because teams have $$$ money invested in those picks which makes it much harder for players like Rourke
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Posted: 3/7/2024 5:33 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Contract puts him on team for offseason - needs to make the final roster to get the actual dollars (players do not get checks in offseason). Was probably given a small amount as signing bonus to keep him buying groceries. Will be interesting who else they sign and draft (will take QB in 1st round who will slot in above him on depth chart)
Correct.

Has his work cut out for him.

Once they get Drake Maye in the building, he's gonna get all the reps, all the attention.

They could always trade McCorkle, but Rourke always seems to be one-step behind the depth chart shuffle.
The problem for Rourke is there is no such thing as competition for playing time anymore. There are franchise QBs and QBs drafted to become franchise QBS, along with veteran backups to help (but not challenge) those two groups. Many teams don't keep a QB3 on the active roster. It seems like if you are not the anointed one on the team you need to bounce around until injuries give you an opportunity--or make you old enough to not be a threat to the franchise QB.
True, because teams have $$$ money invested in those picks which makes it much harder for players like Rourke
I honestly think the advanced ages of these new age QB's could help, as well as some backups playing well. So maybe the stigma is less. But it's going to be an uphill battle for sure.

Nate is 25.
(Kurtis will be 24 next season)

Will Levis is 24.
Hendon Hooker is 26.
Jayden Daniels is 23.
Penix is 23.
Bo Nix is 24.
Sam Hartman is 24.
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Posted: 3/10/2024 4:41 PM
The Pats just shipped Mac Jones to the Jags for a first round pick in the upcoming draft. They also have the #2 pick overall, so they're expected to draft a QB in the first round. With Hones gone Nathan should move up for this season but if the Pats get another QB it doesn't bode well for the long term. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/10/mac-...
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:55 PM
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The Pats just shipped Mac Jones to the Jags for a first round pick in the upcoming draft. They also have the #2 pick overall, so they're expected to draft a QB in the first round. With Hones gone Nathan should move up for this season but if the Pats get another QB it doesn't bode well for the long term. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/10/mac-...
I think that the Broncos and Patriots are in such bad shape that they shouldn't draft a 1st round QB. It is setting them up to fail. Get a late round QB and take a shot with him or someone like Rourke. If it doesn't work you draft high again with more pieces. They won't do that but sometimes the situation is bad enough that you should
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Posted: 3/11/2024 7:17 AM
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The Pats just shipped Mac Jones to the Jags for a first round pick in the upcoming draft. They also have the #2 pick overall, so they're expected to draft a QB in the first round. With Hones gone Nathan should move up for this season but if the Pats get another QB it doesn't bode well for the long term. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/10/mac-...
I think that the Broncos and Patriots are in such bad shape that they shouldn't draft a 1st round QB. It is setting them up to fail. Get a late round QB and take a shot with him or someone like Rourke. If it doesn't work you draft high again with more pieces. They won't do that but sometimes the situation is bad enough that you should
Because of the Wilson deal, the Broncos can’t draft high, they don’t have an high picks left
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Posted: 3/11/2024 8:46 AM
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The Pats just shipped Mac Jones to the Jags for a first round pick in the upcoming draft. They also have the #2 pick overall, so they're expected to draft a QB in the first round. With Hones gone Nathan should move up for this season but if the Pats get another QB it doesn't bode well for the long term. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/10/mac-...
I think that the Broncos and Patriots are in such bad shape that they shouldn't draft a 1st round QB. It is setting them up to fail. Get a late round QB and take a shot with him or someone like Rourke. If it doesn't work you draft high again with more pieces. They won't do that but sometimes the situation is bad enough that you should
Because of the Wilson deal, the Broncos can’t draft high, they don’t have an high picks left
Right, I think that's all the more reason to not draft a QB in the first round.
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Posted: 3/11/2024 9:19 AM
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The Pats just shipped Mac Jones to the Jags for a first round pick in the upcoming draft. They also have the #2 pick overall, so they're expected to draft a QB in the first round. With Hones gone Nathan should move up for this season but if the Pats get another QB it doesn't bode well for the long term. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/10/mac-...
A *SIXTH round pick.

So a 1st round rookie QB isn't as open and shut. Although a new coach always wants to get in there and get his guy, but maybe none of these are his guy? They have to nail this pick, and if Marvin Harrison is there.... no brainer. They could also trade down, because they've got quite a few holes.
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Posted: 3/11/2024 2:44 PM
Right now the Patriots only have 2 QBs on the roster, so Rourke is currently the backup to Zappe. There is no chance that they won't add at least 1-2 other QBs to the roster by fall. Will it be a high draft? A low draft? A trade? An UDFA? I have no idea, but for Rourke to earn a position on the final roster, there is no doubt that he will have to earn it by beating out one or two others.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:52 AM
Just read ON CBS Sports that the Patriots may be trying to sigh Washington free agent QB Jacoby Brissett. He was drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd round of the 2016 draft.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:53 PM
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Just read ON CBS Sports that the Patriots may be trying to sigh Washington free agent QB Jacoby Brissett. He was drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd round of the 2016 draft.
The Patsies did sign Brisset
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/03/11/sports/jacoby-bris... /
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:04 PM
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Just read ON CBS Sports that the Patriots may be trying to sigh Washington free agent QB Jacoby Brissett. He was drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd round of the 2016 draft.
The Patsies did sign Brisset
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/03/11/sports/jacoby-bris... /
He qualifies as both the one year stopgap while we rebuild and the second-string buddy to "the guy we drafted to be our franchise QB." depending on which it is probably Zappe vs Rourke for a roster spot or a back-up job.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 4:51 PM
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Just read ON CBS Sports that the Patriots may be trying to sigh Washington free agent QB Jacoby Brissett. He was drafted by the Patriots in the 3rd round of the 2016 draft.
The Patsies did sign Brisset
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/03/11/sports/jacoby-bris... /
He qualifies as both the one year stopgap while we rebuild and the second-string buddy to "the guy we drafted to be our franchise QB." depending on which it is probably Zappe vs Rourke for a roster spot or a back-up job.
Minnesota Vikings starter.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:04 PM
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:22 PM
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Thus ends any chance of me being interested in the NFL next season
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:34 PM
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This is a blessing for Rourke. This is an organization in complete disarray. He'll be better off finding a new opportunity.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:45 PM
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Waived

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1787467954038194556
This is a blessing for Rourke. This is an organization in complete disarray. He'll be better off finding a new opportunity.

*If* he gets a new opportunity. Those aren't easy to come by. Teams have pretty well filled out their rosters by this point, and as a non-contact position, there aren't many QBs who get hurt in camp.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:46 PM
Honestly... LA Rams, pick up the phone.

Stafford is obviously your starter, but he's 36 years old, has four or five young kids.

Back-ups:

Jimmy G...
Quite Handsome. Takes PEDs.

Stetson Bennet...
FBS legend. Will be 27 years old.

Dresser Winn...
Will turn 26 during the season. Was a practice squad player for the Edmonton Elks before being cut.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:22 AM
There are players that the NFL takes seriously and those that they don't. I fear that Rourke is in the latter category. I wish that he would just go back to the CFL and continue to make a name for himself there. I know that he would make more money as a backup quarterback in the NFL than a starting quarterback in the CFL, but I fear that he will just fade into obscurity in the NFL and not see his potential there. It sucks, but that is the way it seems to work. Go home, Kid Canada, you deserve better than this crap.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:32 AM
doesn’t make more on the bench in the NFL if he doesn’t make the roster. Agree he should head north.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 6:50 PM
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doesn’t make more on the bench in the NFL if he doesn’t make the roster. Agree he should head north.
I'd heard that he made more money last year than any CFL player. This happened while being active for only a handful of games. I could be wrong since I can't find the source again for this. However, playing the practice roster game may be the only way he gets a chance in the NFL. I can't ever see a situation where he ends up playing so well in the CFL that he gets a guaranteed roster spot.
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