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Posted: 7/14/2025 7:04 AM
According to Gregg Doyle of the Indianapolis Star and USA Today,
the NCAA is probably gong to expand the number of teams in the Tournament
again.
Question is how many teams do they add ?
Last Edited: 7/14/2025 7:40:25 AM by rpbobcat
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Posted: 7/14/2025 9:30 AM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
According to Gregg Doyle of the Indianapolis Star and USA Today,
the NCAA is probably gong to expand the number of teams in the Tournament
again.
Question is how many teams do they add ?
As many .500 P5 teams as they can.
Last Edited: 7/14/2025 9:30:23 AM by M.D.W.S.T
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Posted: 7/14/2025 10:18 AM
If new conferences aren't being created, what's the point? If Le Moyne and Stonehill want to flood into the NEC and compete for their auto bid, that doesn't justify expansion.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 10:20 AM
M.D.W.S.T wrote:expand_more
According to Gregg Doyle of the Indianapolis Star and USA Today,
the NCAA is probably gong to expand the number of teams in the Tournament
again.
Question is how many teams do they add ?
As many .500 P5 teams as they can.
Exactly. I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think this expansion is to let more mid-majors in. Now we can have ACC/Big 10/SEC teams that go 7-13 in conference play get rewarded with a tourney birth.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 11:51 AM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
According to Gregg Doyle of the Indianapolis Star and USA Today,
the NCAA is probably gong to expand the number of teams in the Tournament
again.
Question is how many teams do they add ?
As many .500 P5 teams as they can.
Exactly. I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think this expansion is to let more mid-majors in. Now we can have ACC/Big 10/SEC teams that go 7-13 in conference play get rewarded with a tourney birth.
I'm not sure I buy this, exactly. I get the rationale, but I don't think the NCAA is naive enough to not recognize what it is about the NCAA tournament that makes it such huge money maker -- especially in the early rounds. And adding teams has no impact on the Sweet 16, Elite 8, or Final Four.

Ultimately, I think they're just trying to figure out a way to increase the size of the TV pool and that means more games that -- to the extent possible -- feel like the first couple of rounds of things as currently set up. You need mid-majors to do that.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 2:48 PM
Not ideal but it's a necessary evil if you ask me - there are simply too many D1 eligible teams now that you need to open it up a bit more. I don't think it need be an aggressive expansion to like 96 or anything, but there are always a handful of really good teams that get left out. I'd be happy with just 4 more and making those games in Dayton actually matter instead of two 16 seeds battling for the chance to be a sacrificial lamb to a 1 seed.
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Posted: 7/14/2025 5:07 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
According to Gregg Doyle of the Indianapolis Star and USA Today,
the NCAA is probably gong to expand the number of teams in the Tournament
again.
Question is how many teams do they add ?
As many .500 P5 teams as they can.
Exactly. I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think this expansion is to let more mid-majors in. Now we can have ACC/Big 10/SEC teams that go 7-13 in conference play get rewarded with a tourney birth.
I'm not sure I buy this, exactly. I get the rationale, but I don't think the NCAA is naive enough to not recognize what it is about the NCAA tournament that makes it such huge money maker -- especially in the early rounds. And adding teams has no impact on the Sweet 16, Elite 8, or Final Four.

Ultimately, I think they're just trying to figure out a way to increase the size of the TV pool and that means more games that -- to the extent possible -- feel like the first couple of rounds of things as currently set up. You need mid-majors to do that.
How much do you expect the tourney to expand? Go look at the bracketology pages from previous tournaments. CBS had last year's "first four out" as: Xavier, UNC, Texas, and Wake Forest. Would you consider Xavier a mid? I wouldn't, really. Joe Lunardi's first 4 out were: Boise, Ohio State, UNC, and Texas. Texas was on both of those lists. Last year, Texas was 6-12 in the SEC. Six. And. Twelve. If the tourney expands, would the entire SEC make the field?

I'm not saying no mid major programs would get in...but I'd fully expect 70% or more of expansion teams to NOT be mid major programs.
Last Edited: 7/14/2025 5:12:41 PM by 100%Cat
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Posted: 7/15/2025 3:42 AM
There is less good than bad in this initiative so far...
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Posted: 7/15/2025 1:02 PM
Watched less of the tournament last year than I ever have in my adult life. This isn't going to change that.
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