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Posted: 2/29/2020 12:19 PM
CBSSN had a show this morning about Jacksonville U's rise from NAIA team in 1964 to the NCAA championship game against UCLA in 1970. They did it, in part, by becoming one of the first integrated teams in the south. The keystone of the '69-'70 team was a JUCO transfer named Artis Gilmore.

J'ville played its first NCAA tourney game in Dayton against WKU. CBSSN showed the tourney bracket for that year and at the top of the bracket was Notre Dame vs Ohio, which was also played in Dayton. Unfortunately, that was the game where Austin Carr dropped 61 on us, and this, of course, was before the 3-pt shot. His record still stands, as do his records from that game for most FG attempts (44) and most makes (25). He also had 11 FTs against us. He averaged 52.7 pts in three tournament games that year, also still a record.
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Posted: 2/29/2020 12:41 PM
That Jacksonville State run made a college basketball fan for life. For many years, I could rattle off the names of all 5 starters. Alas, no more but Gilmore and Pembroke(?) Burrows are unforgettable.
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Posted: 2/29/2020 3:18 PM
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That Jacksonville State run made a college basketball fan for life. For many years, I could rattle off the names of all 5 starters. Alas, no more but Gilmore and Pembroke(?) Burrows are unforgettable.
I think the others were Rex Morgan, Vaughn Wedeking and Greg Nelson. The announcer for JU's broadcasts on WJXT radio was Mike Patrick.
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Posted: 2/29/2020 3:23 PM
A slight correction........Jacksonville and Jacksonville State are two different school. State is in Alabama and the other in Florida. It was the one in Florida that had the run to the final. I, like you followed that team once they had their run and could also name their starters. Pembrook was also a 7 footer like Artis.

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Posted: 2/29/2020 9:13 PM
Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
That Jacksonville State run made a college basketball fan for life. For many years, I could rattle off the names of all 5 starters. Alas, no more but Gilmore and Pembroke(?) Burrows are unforgettable.
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:10 PM
I was at these games in Dayton. Bobcats got blown out by ND and Austin Carr. Still remember Craig Love, John Canine, Tom Corde, etc. Jacksonville also had Rod McIntyre .. they went 7 feet across the front line with Gilmore, Burrows and McIntyre. Western Kentucky beating Jacksonville and going to Final 4. Good article:

https://wkuherald.com/sports/standing-alone-wku-s-final-f...
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Posted: 2/29/2020 11:14 PM
I remember those games well....on TV. I think at least part of that Jax vs WKU game is still available on YouTube. I've watched that recently.
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Posted: 3/1/2020 12:39 AM
Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
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I was at these games in Dayton. Bobcats got blown out by ND and Austin Carr. Still remember Craig Love, John Canine, Tom Corde,
and Kenny Kowall, Greg McDivitt, Doug Parker, Dave Groff, and a guy named Larry Hunter. I was at UD for those games too. Big disappointment but that was a great team. That was my senior year. They started out 4-0 in the Big Ten by beating Northwestern, Purdue (with Rick Mount), Ohio State, and Indiana. Great season!
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Posted: 3/2/2020 9:04 AM
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Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 9:33 AM
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I remember those games well....on TV. I think at least part of that Jax vs WKU game is still available on YouTube. I've watched that recently.
Anyone know when the games started to be broadcast in color (for those who had a color TV to watch them on, at least)?
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Posted: 3/2/2020 9:38 AM
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Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.
I was very happy for them to get the First 4 host site renewal a few years ago. When a smaller to medium sized city gets something like that, it seems to be celebrated and embraced more than when a top 10 market gets it (at least from what I have experienced). I always like seeing the tournament being played in cities like Des Moines.

Wealth seems to be spread well for this year with host cities like Greensboro, Albany, Spokane and Omaha. Regional sites are big cities with Indy, Houston, LA and NYC.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 10:22 AM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.

Dayton was doing it well before the move was to mandatory 20K arenas, they were still #1 before the advent of the First Four. But you are dead on, they do it right and with great community support. OHSAA Basketball will be there in 2022, Mark my word on that one.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 10:49 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.

Dayton was doing it well before the move was to mandatory 20K arenas, they were still #1 before the advent of the First Four. But you are dead on, they do it right and with great community support. OHSAA Basketball will be there in 2022, Mark my word on that one.
I was there on Friday night. Dayton just "gets" basketball better than any other venue and university in Ohio.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 12:17 PM
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Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.

Dayton was doing it well before the move was to mandatory 20K arenas, they were still #1 before the advent of the First Four. But you are dead on, they do it right and with great community support. OHSAA Basketball will be there in 2022, Mark my word on that one.
I was there on Friday night. Dayton just "gets" basketball better than any other venue and university in Ohio.
Agreed. It appears they have put most of their eggs in the basketball basket and have been rewarded accordingly. I have long been fascinated that while they are a smaller, private, Marianist/Catholic university, it seems like the region as a whole embraces them as their team.
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Posted: 3/2/2020 3:29 PM
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I remember those games well....on TV. I think at least part of that Jax vs WKU game is still available on YouTube. I've watched that recently.
Anyone know when the games started to be broadcast in color (for those who had a color TV to watch them on, at least)?
I think it was sometime in the late '60s. By '67 all the networks were broadcasting their full prime time schedules in color and CBS aired all its NFL games in color in 1968.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 7:29 PM
OUcats82 wrote:expand_more
Dayton has hosted more NCAA Tournament games than any other site.
With good reason. While fans from coast to coast lament their having to go to Dayton they do it well. Get the teams in the first night, as soon as the game is over they have the jets on the runway cleared and a police escort up I75 to get them off to their next destination. As Dayton celebrates the NCAA being in town and does everything to make it happen other towns are just looking at the dollars.

Dayton was doing it well before the move was to mandatory 20K arenas, they were still #1 before the advent of the First Four. But you are dead on, they do it right and with great community support. OHSAA Basketball will be there in 2022, Mark my word on that one.
I was there on Friday night. Dayton just "gets" basketball better than any other venue and university in Ohio.
Agreed. It appears they have put most of their eggs in the basketball basket and have been rewarded accordingly. I have long been fascinated that while they are a smaller, private, Marianist/Catholic university, it seems like the region as a whole embraces them as their team.
I would agree on the sports side they are all in on basketball but several other activities keep Dayton a destination many folks come to year after year. Even with the Grand National Trapshoot gone, HAM radio guys make the trip every year from all over the globe. WGI with their performing arts groups/ World Championships and the Dayton Air Show attract people to the area every year without fail.
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Posted: 3/4/2020 9:53 PM
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CBSSN had a show this morning about Jacksonville U's rise from NAIA team in 1964 to the NCAA championship game against UCLA in 1970. They did it, in part, by becoming one of the first integrated teams in the south. The keystone of the '69-'70 team was a JUCO transfer named Artis Gilmore . . . .
As I've said on this site before, one of the reasons that we beat UK in 1964 was that our team was integrated and Kentucky was not -- our starting five was Jerry Jackson, Charlie Gill, Paul Storey, Don Hilt and Mike Haley. A perfect cross-section of America!
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I think the 1969-70 season was when I first started noticing those schools, who would much later be called mid-majors, that had really good teams. And, as underdogs I found it easy to start pulling for them. That season, not only were the Jacksonville Dolphins good, but so was Western Kentucky (who Jacksonville did eliminate in the first round of the tourney) led by center Jim McDaniel, and St. Bonaventure, led by big Bob Lanier (Jacksonville ended up beating Bona in the semis).

Most of the usual premier major programs were good but UCLA was in the middle of their 10-year run when they were so dominate that most just wondered what their margins of victory would be. I did not want to again witness any time soon John Wooden, with rolled up program, showing the emotions of a walk down the street while winning another championship. I thought Jacksonville had a chance; especially since UCLA, I thought, could conceivably have a “crack in their armor” given this was just after Lew Alcindor (Jabbar) and, of course how it turned out, before Bill Walton. They didn’t have the dominate center which in those days was probably more important than now.

Consequently I highly anticipated the “little guy” taking on Goliath in the final. Alas, despite Jacksonville putting up a tussle, an upset was not to be.
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Posted: 3/6/2020 4:06 PM
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I think the 1969-70 season was when I first started noticing those schools, who would much later be called mid-majors, that had really good teams. And, as underdogs I found it easy to start pulling for them. That season, not only were the Jacksonville Dolphins good, but so was Western Kentucky (who Jacksonville did eliminate in the first round of the tourney) led by center Jim McDaniel, and St. Bonaventure, led by big Bob Lanier (Jacksonville ended up beating Bona in the semis).

Most of the usual premier major programs were good but UCLA was in the middle of their 10-year run when they were so dominate that most just wondered what their margins of victory would be. I did not want to again witness any time soon John Wooden, with rolled up program, showing the emotions of a walk down the street while winning another championship. I thought Jacksonville had a chance; especially since UCLA, I thought, could conceivably have a “crack in their armor” given this was just after Lew Alcindor (Jabbar) and, of course how it turned out, before Bill Walton. They didn’t have the dominate center which in those days was probably more important than now.

Consequently I highly anticipated the “little guy” taking on Goliath in the final. Alas, despite Jacksonville putting up a tussle, an upset was not to be.
I had about the same emotions that you expressed, and I was definitely rooting for Jacksonville.
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