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Kevin Finnegan
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Posted: 11/5/2019 12:37 PM
Is over .500 enough to consider the trajectory of this team promising?
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Posted: 11/5/2019 12:45 PM
For me two things would make this a successful year:

1) Almost everyone staying healthy for the majority of the year - allows everyone in the program to put their best foot forward and show what they're capable of. In some cases over the prior 2-3 seasons, we have had too many cases where the lack of health has been too much of the story.

2) The team looks notably better on February 1, 2020 than they do during November 2019. With the number of players in their first or second year, that gives everyone a feel for where things are headed this coming March, and on into future seasons.

3) My only wins/losses criteria: Beat Miami and Akron on OUr home floor.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 1:23 PM
MAC CHAMPIONSHIP JUST WATCH..
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Posted: 11/5/2019 1:24 PM
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:05 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
For me two things would make this a successful year:

1) Almost everyone staying healthy for the majority of the year - allows everyone in the program to put their best foot forward and show what they're capable of. In some cases over the prior 2-3 seasons, we have had too many cases where the lack of health has been too much of the story.

2) The team looks notably better on February 1, 2020 than they do during November 2019. With the number of players in their first or second year, that gives everyone a feel for where things are headed this coming March, and on into future seasons.

3) My only wins/losses criteria: Beat Miami and Akron on OUr home floor.
We're already teetering on failing with #1.

I'm more or less with OU_Country on this one. I think it's going to be an up and down year, with the ups showing us the potential of the group and the downs reminding us we're too young right now. We'll probably win a few games we shouldn't win, and lose some games we shouldn't lose.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:23 PM
the final record is less important to me than how they gel as a team. Here's to hoping that they come together as a team and are playing strong at the end. (and maybe even spoil a season or two for some of our dear friends in the MAC)
Last Edited: 11/5/2019 2:23:51 PM by El Gato Roberto
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:41 PM
Making it to Cleveland.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:46 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Making it to Cleveland.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:01 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Making it to Cleveland.
That's a good one. I expect some early season struggles will mean Ohio will not be in the top eight and won't have a first-round tournament home game but by the end of the year, the Bobcats hopefully are better and capable of beating someone who was a little better on the road.

I certainly don't need to see a .500 record for the season to be successful to me.

More than anything, I want to feel like the young players on the team get better and have a bright future. It would be nice if one of the young guys (maybe Preston or BVP) earns All-MAC honors, even if it's honorable mention. It'd be nice if there's a couple All-MAC freshman team honorees. I want to see a team that gets along and competes, is inspired to play hard by the coach and wants to get better.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 6:57 PM
I'm not worried about W and L. Would love to see improvement on monthly basis and see see what's up by MAC tourney.

My hope is competitive team that runs an O.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 10:38 PM
After tonight it's post season play!
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Posted: 11/6/2019 6:55 AM
After a win vs the Bonnies, 9-10 wins is possible before MAC season begins.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 7:55 AM
For me:
Over .500
Competitive in all games or most
Continual improvement through the season.
Be the team no one wants to play come tourny time.
GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 11/6/2019 8:39 AM
For me, it's all about noticeable numbers improvement from last year. An increase in wins would be an indicator of success, but I'll be paying attention to more specific statistics such as improvements in:

Assist/TO ratio
Turnovers per game
Free throw percentage
Effective FG percentage, offensive and defensive
Rebounding percentage
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Posted: 11/6/2019 8:56 AM
Might sound odd...but what is the point differential in our losses? Are we competitive losing games between 1-9 points and not the several 13-20 point clunker losses we've had to endure over the last five years.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 10:00 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Might sound odd...but what is the point differential in our losses? Are we competitive losing games between 1-9 points and not the several 13-20 point clunker losses we've had to endure over the last five years.
This is along the lines of what I was thinking. We need to work our way back to being a program that's competitive against just about anybody.

Another thing I'll add: take steps to re-ignite student interest.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:39 PM
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Might sound odd...but what is the point differential in our losses? Are we competitive losing games between 1-9 points and not the several 13-20 point clunker losses we've had to endure over the last five years.
This is along the lines of what I was thinking. We need to work our way back to being a program that's competitive against just about anybody.

Another thing I'll add: take steps to re-ignite student interest.
The student interest point is a good one. Whether or not it is successful remains to be seen, but the efforts to get Boals and Bolden more visible publicly and on social media are definitely noticeable.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:41 PM
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For me two things would make this a successful year:

1) Almost everyone staying healthy for the majority of the year - allows everyone in the program to put their best foot forward and show what they're capable of. In some cases over the prior 2-3 seasons, we have had too many cases where the lack of health has been too much of the story.

2) The team looks notably better on February 1, 2020 than they do during November 2019. With the number of players in their first or second year, that gives everyone a feel for where things are headed this coming March, and on into future seasons.

3) My only wins/losses criteria: Beat Miami and Akron on OUr home floor.
We're already teetering on failing with #1.

I'm more or less with OU_Country on this one. I think it's going to be an up and down year, with the ups showing us the potential of the group and the downs reminding us we're too young right now. We'll probably win a few games we shouldn't win, and lose some games we shouldn't lose.
I don't disagree with the teetering, but in my case, I'm thinking the whole season, so if the currently hobbled 4 only miss a handful games, that still allows everyone to hopefully gel and get the chance for their best effort to be seen without injury being the key storyline. Based on what I've heard/read here, it seems as if Price and Roderick aren't too far from being back in action full time in practice.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 4:10 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
For me two things would make this a successful year:

1) Almost everyone staying healthy for the majority of the year - allows everyone in the program to put their best foot forward and show what they're capable of. In some cases over the prior 2-3 seasons, we have had too many cases where the lack of health has been too much of the story.

2) The team looks notably better on February 1, 2020 than they do during November 2019. With the number of players in their first or second year, that gives everyone a feel for where things are headed this coming March, and on into future seasons.

3) My only wins/losses criteria: Beat Miami and Akron on OUr home floor.
We're already teetering on failing with #1.

I'm more or less with OU_Country on this one. I think it's going to be an up and down year, with the ups showing us the potential of the group and the downs reminding us we're too young right now. We'll probably win a few games we shouldn't win, and lose some games we shouldn't lose.
I don't disagree with the teetering, but in my case, I'm thinking the whole season, so if the currently hobbled 4 only miss a handful games, that still allows everyone to hopefully gel and get the chance for their best effort to be seen without injury being the key storyline. Based on what I've heard/read here, it seems as if Price and Roderick aren't too far from being back in action full time in practice.
I share in your optimism, but in the back of my mind I still remember situations with Campbell, Carter, and Dartis from recent history.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 4:38 PM
^^^^^^^^ For sure! And those were season altering injuries. Hopefully these aren't for any of the currently injured players.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 5:49 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Might sound odd...but what is the point differential in our losses? Are we competitive losing games between 1-9 points and not the several 13-20 point clunker losses we've had to endure over the last five years.
This is along the lines of what I was thinking. We need to work our way back to being a program that's competitive against just about anybody.

Another thing I'll add: take steps to re-ignite student interest.
I'll take that a step further and say re-ignite the energy in the Convo, period. The last few times I was in the Convo before moving to Texas, while the games were competitive it felt like half of those in attendance were asleep.
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Posted: 11/7/2019 12:37 AM
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I'll take that a step further and say re-ignite the energy in the Convo, period. The last few times I was in the Convo before moving to Texas, while the games were competitive it felt like half of those in attendance were asleep.

So kinda like Peden is most of the time?
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Posted: 12/9/2019 12:49 PM
So, on this front, the injury component is putting our season in jeopardy. I'm not sure if there has been much change in fan support at the Convo, but it's a very small sample size thus far in that category. Instead, I looked at some of the advanced stats that were mentioned as a measure to see if we are playing differently. Here's what we have done so far compared to how we ended last season.


Our offensive rating is 108.7, which has us in the top 100. Last year, we were 97.6, near the very bottom of the country.

Our defensive rating is 96.1, middle of the pack nationally. Last year, we were 102.9, near the bottom of the country.

Turnover percentage is pretty comparable to last year (17.3% now, 17.5% last year).

Effective Field Goal % is .554, which is 35th in the nation. Last year, we were far worse at .488.

Effective Field Goal % Allowed is .459 this year, top 100 in the nation. Last year, it was .506.

Our big growth comes in 3 Pt FG%, which is .373 (50th nationally) compared to .295 last year, and

Assist Per Game, which is 16.6 (25th nationally), and was 14.5 last year (still good for top 100 nationally).

Assist/TO is 1.24 this year (49th nationally), and last year we were an even 1.00.
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Posted: 12/10/2019 7:52 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I'll take that a step further and say re-ignite the energy in the Convo, period. The last few times I was in the Convo before moving to Texas, while the games were competitive it felt like half of those in attendance were asleep.

So kinda like Peden is most of the time?

The section of Peden I sit in is always engaged with the game. Now the Convo section, is asleep or talking about things other than basketball.
GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 12/10/2019 10:08 AM
We're not even through the non-con portion of the schedule and I'm on the verge of saying it already has been a success. There's life in the program.
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