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Pedro
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  Message Not Read  Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/15/2012 9:13:04 PM 
Per his twitter. Good luck, young man.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/16/2012 8:08:37 PM 
Outstanding school - good luck in the patriot league young man.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/16/2012 8:09:34 PM 
Well, there goes our APR.

Seriously, I don't really understand why this young man never developed.  Was it lack of basic skill-level?  If that's the case it means his talent was not properly assessed at the time of his signing.  Or, was it lack of development from a personal motivational level or from an inability of our coaching staff to "coach him up" as happened with the legendary KVK?  I'm simply asking questions here, I don't really have a clue what the correct answer is.  All I know is that it's puzzling to me that he never panned out.  I was lead to believe when he came to Ohio that with a few years of good coaching and adjustment to the college game we'd have a real solid college center, who also was rumored to actually have a good outside touch.  None of this materialized, and I'd be interested in others assessments as to why.   


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/16/2012 8:33:12 PM 
As long as he left in good academic standing he won't hurt our APR.  

I think he did have the outside touch you mentioned but appeared to be a complete liability on Defense which is more than likely why he couldn't get on the floor.  He also wasn't very strong so he couldn't hold position on the block.  I have no idea if he had a post up game.  I think it was a reach on a true 7 footer who had some athletic ability and he just didn't develop the skill set necessary to see any PT.  It didn't pan out here but I bet with a drop down in competition level he will contribute. 

Last Edited: 7/16/2012 10:36:50 PM by OUs LONG Driver

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/16/2012 10:25:36 PM 
Some players work out, some players don't. That's the nature of the beast.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 10:42:25 AM 
KVK was a defensive mastermind.  He could also boxout with the best of them.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 10:58:21 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
KVK was a defensive mastermind.  He could also boxout with the best of them.


And after two years with Dustin Ford he even developed something resembling an offensive post-move!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 11:12:52 AM 
Athens Block wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
KVK was a defensive mastermind.  He could also boxout with the best of them.


And after two years with Dustin Ford he even developed something resembling an offensive post-move!


No, Dustin was small. He could not possibly have done anything.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 12:01:09 PM 
KVK really took off about midway through his junior year when they put him at a high post on offense so he wasn't always banging into bigger bodies underneath.  That helped save some strength for defense.

Jacobs' problem was either conditioning (he always seemed slow getting up and down the floor) or mental (maybe he just wasn't seeing the situation and responding quick enough).  Anyway, I hope he does well at Colgate.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 1:15:49 PM 
I don't think of any of us can pinpoint what the hold up was in Jacob's development.  We can say what we observed in his couple dozen minutes of junk time in the Convo...but that would be wildly unfair.  The answer to the question could only answered by his coaches, teammates and anyone else who was around all those countless practices.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 7:33:15 PM 
We wish him the Crest in future endeavors.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/17/2012 8:40:42 PM 
JSF wrote:
Some players work out, some players don't. That's the nature of the beast.


Agree.

Sometimes they develop and turn into KVK.

Sometimes they don't and turn into Andy Kanzig.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/18/2012 9:11:27 AM 
Brian Smith wrote:
We wish him the Crest in future endeavors.




I see what you did there.

And yes, good luck to Ethan.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/18/2012 10:38:29 AM 
We were also sort of forced to use KVK his freshman year. Without him, we would have only gone six deep with either having both Tillman and Williams starting with no backup bigs or Tillman subbing for Williams again.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/18/2012 10:52:27 AM 

KVK was a contributor even as a reserve during his freshman and sophmore year. He blossomed into a starter in his junior year and was a big reason we won the 2010 MAC tournament and beat Georgetown. KVK improved dramatically thruout his career.

Jacobs never saw the minutes as a freshmen and sophmore like KVK. Nagtzaam or Bota is a closer comparison than KVK.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/18/2012 9:24:53 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
KVK really took off about midway through his junior year when they put him at a high post on offense so he wasn't always banging into bigger bodies underneath.  That helped save some strength for defense.



He may have preferred the high post but he was no slouch in the low post either. He worked hard to get deep position and when he did he would hit you with his turn around hook shot. It was a pretty effective move his Senior year. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 10:03:08 AM 
I fondly recall a game against some Ivy League team (Cornell?) KVK's freshman year when he dropped 18ish points.  I thought TOS was leading us to the promised land.   I wasn't even in college at that point.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 10:39:40 AM 
Thanks for the many and varied answers to my question.

 One point of clarification, my sarcastic comment about APR was in reference to what I heard was Jacobs' 3.9 GPA.  If true, I doubt we have too many other players who can step up and equal that GPA.  No, I don't think we will be getting into any real trouble due to his transferring.  Like the rest, I do wish him well in his future endeavors at Colgate and wherever his life journeys may  take him.  

Last Edited: 7/19/2012 10:40:47 AM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 12:09:54 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:


One point of clarification, my sarcastic comment about APR was in reference to what I heard was Jacobs' 3.9 GPA.  If true, I doubt we have too many other players who can step up and equal that GPA.


I don't think you have an accurate understanding of how APR works.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 12:26:06 PM 
No matter his role or results, Jacobs seemed to be genuinely enthused as he watched from the bench.

Best of luck to him.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 6:36:14 PM 
HeHateMiami wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:


One point of clarification, my sarcastic comment about APR was in reference to what I heard was Jacobs' 3.9 GPA.  If true, I doubt we have too many other players who can step up and equal that GPA.


I don't think you have an accurate understanding of how APR works.


Perhaps, not . . . but I do think higher GPAs are always better than lower GPAs.  


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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/19/2012 7:31:32 PM 
wish the kid the best!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 7/22/2012 1:41:35 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
HeHateMiami wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:


One point of clarification, my sarcastic comment about APR was in reference to what I heard was Jacobs' 3.9 GPA.  If true, I doubt we have too many other players who can step up and equal that GPA.


I don't think you have an accurate understanding of how APR works.


Perhaps, not . . . but I do think higher GPAs are always better than lower GPAs.

Sure, but so far as the APR is concerned, passing is passing.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Jacobs to Colgate
   Posted: 4/13/2019 8:22:32 PM 
Not to resurrect old threads but a few guys still ask about E. Good kid, still playing. Married and living the life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JLBrrkF33w&feature=youtu.be Happy for him.


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   Posted: 4/13/2019 8:30:36 PM 
Great to see.... Many of those big guys just need more time to grow into their bodies. Can we get two red shirt years for all Big's over 6'9"? 😂
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